Metal Gear Rising is Not Part of Metal Gear Solid Series

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Kojima Productions has been clearing up some rumors and misconceptions regarding Metal Gear Rising Revengeance following the game's unveiling earlier today.

First off, a rumor that quickly surfaced after the game's unveiling: Rising is a proper sequel in the Metal Gear Solid saga. This, according to the Kojipro official Twitter, is not the case. "We've only said that the period setting is several years after MGS4. Metal Gear Rising is not part of the Metal Gear Solid series. At present, we can't say more than this."

Rising was also the main subject of the latest Hideraji podcast, with producer Yuji Korekado sharing a few additional details about the project. Here's some of what was discussed based off a summary of the broadcast that's making the rounds (I haven't given the broadcast a listen for myself, so my translation is second hand -- there may be a few differences when you hear the official English background story via a video that will be released on the 13th).

The original Rising was announced as a game where you can chop up anything. The development staff quickly created just that. However, they felt that this alone would be insufficient.

The original Rising got to the point where the staff no longer knew what the core of the game should be. At some point, Kojima said that the project probably would not be able to be completed. However, the staff insisted that it could be done. In the end, they cancelled the project. At this point, they'd already fleshed out many areas outside of the game design component, like the story and the motion capture.

One day, Kojima leaned that members of Platinum Games had come to the Kojima Productions studio. Platinum said that it's unfortunate that the game was in a half done state. They were excited about the project that they took over.

Platinum suggested the concept of "a game where it feels so good to chop things up that you would die" (I think my translation may be weird here -- "It's so good that you die" is just a Japanese way of saying it's amazingly good.)

The title was changed because the game is different from the Metal Gear Solid series. It's a new Metal Gear.

Hideki Kamiya is not the game's director. The director will be announced later.

When restarting the project, they were originally going to use the original story. After Platinum received the data from Kojima Productions, they said they wanted to remake the story.

Damage control already? this has got to be a record...

wow, So Kojima actually canned the game, but platinum picked up the reigns saying they could pullit off? Im even less likely to buy this game now, Kojima thought it was punk enough to scrap, it shouldnt have metal gear in the title. BibiMaghoo

wow, So Kojima actually canned the game, but platinum picked up the reigns saying they could pullit off? Im even less likely to buy this game now, Kojima thought it was punk enough to scrap, it shouldnt have metal gear in the title. BibiMaghoo

actually if Hedeki's leading on this it will probably be a better metal gear game than MGS4.

Its Metal gear its within the metal gear universe its not part of the solid quadroligy focusing on the snake story arc.Its a new era and could be considered a clean slate in a few ways it gives way more breathing space cause even in 2 and 4 raiden as a character had a lot of holes and wasnt that well developed in some areas.

If the story really does take place years after MGS4, then I'll consider it about as canonical as I consider Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel to still be in the same universe as the good Fallout games.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]wow, So Kojima actually canned the game, but platinum picked up the reigns saying they could pullit off? Im even less likely to buy this game now, Kojima thought it was punk enough to scrap, it shouldnt have metal gear in the title. soapandbubbles

i dont think it will be :P

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]wow, So Kojima actually canned the game, but platinum picked up the reigns saying they could pullit off? Im even less likely to buy this game now, Kojima thought it was punk enough to scrap, it shouldnt have metal gear in the title. razgriz_101

actually if Hedeki's leading on this it will probably be a better metal gear game than MGS4.

hes not

Hideki Kamiya is not the game's director. The director will be announced later.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]wow, So Kojima actually canned the game, but platinum picked up the reigns saying they could pullit off? Im even less likely to buy this game now, Kojima thought it was punk enough to scrap, it shouldnt have metal gear in the title. campzor

i dont think it will be :P

Ive got no problem with it being a metal gear game, other than Kojima scrapped it cos he thought it was crap and someone else is making the game. If he had that little faith in it, I cant be much excited for it. I also dont like the idea another company is producing a MG game that looks like it could be any new IP with a raiden skin on the character. I did enjoy Vanquish though :) BibiMaghoo

it was more scrapped because Kojima didnt know what direction to head in with the game that doesnt mean its crap.Its probably more a case of not making the not so bright MGS fans just wanting more Snake games despite the fact thats near enough beating a dead horse as everythings been covered really.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]Ive got no problem with it being a metal gear game, other than Kojima scrapped it cos he thought it was crap and someone else is making the game. If he had that little faith in it, I cant be much excited for it. I also dont like the idea another company is producing a MG game that looks like it could be any new IP with a raiden skin on the character. I did enjoy Vanquish though :) razgriz_101

it was more scrapped because Kojima didnt know what direction to head in with the game that doesnt mean its crap.Its probably more a case of not making the not so bright MGS fans just wanting more Snake games despite the fact thats near enough beating a dead horse as everythings been covered really.

So let me get this straight... Rising was cancelled, then resurected by another dev, who is basically building the game around the cancelled and most likely (given kojimas past games) terrible story and focused on swordplay because its "so fun to slash things"...

Thank you Kojima... you and your game have once again provided us all with quite the incoherent and head scratching movie to watch...

So let me get this straight... Rising was cancelled, then resurected by another dev, who is basically building the game around the cancelled and most likely (given kojimas past games) terrible story and focused on swordplay because its "so fun to slash things"...

Thank you Kojima... you and your game have once again provided us all with quite the incoherent and head scratching movie to watch...

TheEroica

the irony is it looks more gameplay heavy and knowing Platinum it will surely be more gameplay focused rather than a focus on cutscenes and Kojima learned his lesson bout cutscenes with Peace walker.

I never thought of it as a main series game,it´s pretty much the same as the Bad Company games are to the BF series.

I don't care what it's not a part of it looks kind of silly and the name is completely idiotic.It looks tailormade for the people who like style over substance.

What was wrong with the title Metal Gear Rising? They really didn't need the revengance bs. As for it not being a "proper" MGS game, whatever. I loved Metal Gear:Acid.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

So let me get this straight... Rising was cancelled, then resurected by another dev, who is basically building the game around the cancelled and most likely (given kojimas past games) terrible story and focused on swordplay because its "so fun to slash things"...

Thank you Kojima... you and your game have once again provided us all with quite the incoherent and head scratching movie to watch...

razgriz_101

the irony is it looks more gameplay heavy and knowing Platinum it will surely be more gameplay focused rather than a focus on cutscenes and Kojima learned his lesson bout cutscenes with Peace walker.

Looks like Kojima's running scared

They know Platinum games will do a better job with the series and in order to keep their jobs safe they're distancing themselves from the game.

Smart move on Kojima's part, they understand they have no chance going up against Platinum so instead they're going to distance the IP

So in other words it's just spin off aka big waste of time and money/game I couldn't care less about.

The gameplay looks good so far, but the writing and story elements look like a bad Tekken plot.xxmatt125xx

Wait, it's set after MGS4? Hope they explain Raiden getting all cyborged out again.

Looks like Kojima's running scared

They know Platinum games will do a better job with the series and in order to keep their jobs safe they're distancing themselves from the game.

Smart move on Kojima's part, they understand they have no chance going up against Platinum so instead they're going to distance the IP

Jaysonguy

Thats why is call METAL GEAR RISING... ehhhh..ohhh

Better than MGS4? No I doubt Rising will be the best game ever made. Maybe an MGS5 where you play as The Boss or back to MGS6 where you play as Snake AFTER MGS4; could be though.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Looks like Kojima's running scared

They know Platinum games will do a better job with the series and in order to keep their jobs safe they're distancing themselves from the game.

Smart move on Kojima's part, they understand they have no chance going up against Platinum so instead they're going to distance the IP

Chutebox

Yes, that was understood from the jump

The problem arises when people see that Platinum can do better then Kojima in the same "universe"

Kojima needs to work hard to distance his IP from Platinum so that when people see Platinum's game and want them to take over everything Kojima can say "well that's just an offshoot from the series, they still haven't done a better Metal Gear game"

Expect Kojima to have a stranglehold on the Metal Gear series from this point on

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Looks like Kojima's running scared

They know Platinum games will do a better job with the series and in order to keep their jobs safe they're distancing themselves from the game.

Smart move on Kojima's part, they understand they have no chance going up against Platinum so instead they're going to distance the IP

Jaysonguy

Yes, that was understood from the jump

The problem arises when people see that Platinum can do better then Kojima in the same "universe"

Kojima needs to work hard to distance his IP from Platinum so that when people see Platinum's game and want them to take over everything Kojima can say "well that's just an offshoot from the series, they still haven't done a better Metal Gear game"

Expect Kojima to have a stranglehold on the Metal Gear series from this point on

Well i've never played an MGS game, but from what I gather, it's bizarre that they can even call it 'Metal Gear' because it's not really the same. I'm sure platinum will do a great job, they're a fantastic dev but really this should have been made as something else rather than a spin-off of the MG universe.DarthJohnova

Oh wow that sucks so they basically scratched the Orin game and gave it to another studio to handle? Well it's platinum games so it could be good.

wow, So Kojima actually canned the game, but platinum picked up the reigns saying they could pullit off? Im even less likely to buy this game now, Kojima thought it was punk enough to scrap, it shouldnt have metal gear in the title. BibiMaghoo