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#1 lordsettra12
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Best game ever!!!

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#2 Michael85
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No. When I have to sit through a 20-30 minute long conversation between our hero and his girlfriend about how he has his room arranged at home in the middle of a national crisis, I know that what I'm watching (re: not playing), can't possibly be the best game ever.

Seriously, Kojima's stories would be so much better if they didn't drag on so damn much, or if they didn't have plot-twists that didn't make any damn sense. C'mon now...Olga as the Ninja? I 'bout killed myself right there.

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#3 SpaceMatt
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Eh... didn't really care for the Raiden (probably spelt it incorrectly, don't really care) part. I get how it was the whole recreation of MGS 1 to turn out super-soldiers and all that, and the gameplay was fun, but I just did not care for Raiden at all. Would have much rather continued playing as Snake.
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#4 DuDisNow
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It's not the best game ever. I wanted to play as Snake, not Raiden.
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#5 lordsettra12
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No. When I have to sit through a 20-30 minute long conversation between our hero and his girlfriend about how he has his room arranged at home in the middle of a national crisis, I know that what I'm watching (re: not playing), can't possibly be the best game ever.

Seriously, Kojima's stories would be so much better if they didn't drag on so damn much, or if they didn't have plot-twists that didn't make any damn sense. C'mon now...Olga as the Ninja? I 'bout killed myself right there.

Michael85
I think u need 2 play the game again, It's Kojima's masterpeice no MGS game comes close. What's bad about Olga bein a Ninja... there's nothing even remarkly bad with that. replay the game i've beat it prob 20+
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#6 lordsettra12
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It's not the best game ever. I wanted to play as Snake, not Raiden.DuDisNow
O go cry little baby. Sorry we had 2 play as a emotionaly driven character who has one ofthe best backstorys in the games.
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#7 smackbang
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MGS3 was much better, Raiden was just really anoyying.
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#8 onewiththegame
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I like MGS3:sub better

had more fun playing it

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#9 lordsettra12
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MGS3 was much better, Raiden was just really anoyying.smackbang
MGS3 is the worst in the series. Bad characters besides the Boss and Snake. terrible simple minded story, lame game altogethor. Kojima sold out for this 1
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#10 osirisomeomi
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[QUOTE="DuDisNow"]It's not the best game ever. I wanted to play as Snake, not Raiden.lordsettra12
O go cry little baby. Sorry we had 2 play as a emotionaly driven character who has one ofthe best backstorys in the games.

An emotionally driven person is a girl, generally. That's basic psych.

Anyhow, that game was good, but too much tlk, not enough action and is wasn't as good as MGS1, the greatest in the series by far.

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#11 lordsettra12
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Eh... didn't really care for the Raiden (probably spelt it incorrectly, don't really care) part. I get how it was the whole recreation of MGS 1 to turn out super-soldiers and all that, and the gameplay was fun, but I just did not care for Raiden at all. Would have much rather continued playing as Snake.SpaceMatt
It wasn't necesarly about making super soldiers but I see what ur saying
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#12 PannicAtack
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I'm going to assume that it's great an all, but considering how many people consider it to be horrendously overrated, I doubt that it's the best game ever. >_>

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[QUOTE="DuDisNow"]It's not the best game ever. I wanted to play as Snake, not Raiden.lordsettra12
O go cry little baby. Sorry we had 2 play as a emotionaly driven character who has one ofthe best backstorys in the games.

Wow your geting way to worked up just because someone does not agree with your opinion.

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MGS 1 was better.
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#15 Mitazaki
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imo twin snakes is the best one but even then they are not the best games as the A.I is so lame
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#16 Gilgamesh51
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Metal Gear Solid 2 was a good game. I like the fact that Solid Snake was somewhat of a mentor to Raiden. We got to see another side of Solid Snake.

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#17 zsc4
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MGS2 was amazing but can't really be considered the best game ever. Even though it was really good... :?
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#18 purplemidgets
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MGS3 is the best.

MGS2 is close behind though...

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#19 darkodonnie
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MGS2 was a great game, but I wouldn't call it best game ever or even one of the top 10
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#20 Eddie-Vedder
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MGS rox period, it´s cool to see people argueing on which one is the best, shows how good and unique each game is. I don´t know which one I like more, but 1 has a special place in my heart for introducing me to MGS, 2 was awesome but I don´t really remember the story very well, and 3 was a great game but don´t ask me why I played it on easy and that sort of ruined the game for me, didn´t really give me a challenge, lesson learned, don´t play games on easy.
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#22 Mitazaki
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i agree, i think MGS4 will be the best one, its gonna be huge

and for people who say they dont like watching games they like playing them and that if they wanted to watch a movie theyd watch a movie

i would like to know a movie with better plotlines and charachters than an MGS game

MGS3 made me choke up and tear

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theres tons of movies with better plotlines and characters than MGS, guess you have never seen a Hayao Miyazaki movie as he always delievers great plotlines, characters and very emotional scenes

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#23 onewiththegame
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i agree, i think MGS4 will be the best one, its gonna be huge

and for people who say they dont like watching games they like playing them and that if they wanted to watch a movie theyd watch a movie

i would like to know a movie with better plotlines and charachters than an MGS game

MGS3 made me choke up and tear

R-Dot-Yung

thats a weak argument

your pretty much saying they're right

I love MGS game but yes there is to much talking , like when I want to save my game and go out I dont want to sit and listen to the medic go on about some "B" movies I've seen before

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#24 lordsettra12
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

i agree, i think MGS4 will be the best one, its gonna be huge

and for people who say they dont like watching games they like playing them and that if they wanted to watch a movie theyd watch a movie

i would like to know a movie with better plotlines and charachters than an MGS game

MGS3 made me choke up and tear

Mitazaki

theres tons of movies with better plotlines and characters than MGS, guess you have never seen a Hayao Miyazaki movie as he always delievers great plotlines, characters and very emotional scenes

Um no there isn't. No Kubrick, Scorcese, Coppola, Polanski, Lynch, Hitchcock or any of the great directors come close to MGS plot or characters
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#25 Eddie-Vedder
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I think a lot of movies have better plots then MGS games, but they fale to grab as well as MGS mainly because one is a movie and the other is a game. I´m all for games like MGS full of in game movies and conversations, keeps me interested.
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#26 bkslayer
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Theres lots of movies with better plotlines and characters...but for a game, MGS2 is pretty much up there.

I think some of you who disliked MGS2 needs to look at it at another perspective. Maybe Kojima made Raiden just a "little girl" so you can see his massive improvment in MGS4. Do not forget what happened at the end of the game, Raiden was given a Katana and sucked with it.

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#27 lordsettra12
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MGS rox period, it´s cool to see people argueing on which one is the best, shows how good and unique each game is. I don´t know which one I like more, but 1 has a special place in my heart for introducing me to MGS, 2 was awesome but I don´t really remember the story very well, and 3 was a great game but don´t ask me why I played it on easy and that sort of ruined the game for me, didn´t really give me a challenge, lesson learned, don´t play games on easy.Eddie-Vedder
Yep basically

MGS1 fans luv that it was there first and has a great story and characters, more balanced out well than the other games

MGS2 fans could care less about the gameplay and are just amazed by the story

MGS3 fans are the ones who want more gameplay and want a "badass" character. And could care less about the story

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#28 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

i agree, i think MGS4 will be the best one, its gonna be huge

and for people who say they dont like watching games they like playing them and that if they wanted to watch a movie theyd watch a movie

i would like to know a movie with better plotlines and charachters than an MGS game

MGS3 made me choke up and tear

lordsettra12

theres tons of movies with better plotlines and characters than MGS, guess you have never seen a Hayao Miyazaki movie as he always delievers great plotlines, characters and very emotional scenes

Um no there isn't. No Kubrick, Scorcese, Coppola, Polanski, Lynch, Hitchcock or any of the great directors come close to MGS plot or characters

too each there own but if you have seen the movies i have seen then you will see there are movies with better characters, plotlines etc

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#30 lordsettra12
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Theres lots of movies with better plotlines and characters...but for a game, MGS2 is pretty much up there.

I think some of you who disliked MGS2 needs to look at it at another perspective. Maybe Kojima made Raiden just a "little girl" so you can see his massive improvment in MGS4. Do not forget what happened at the end of the game, Raiden was given a Katana and sucked with it.

bkslayer
sucked with it wtf? and Kojima made Raiden a ninja to make him more "badass" for the fans since soo many disliked him. Also tell me a movie with better plotlines or characters.
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#31 bkslayer
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[QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

i agree, i think MGS4 will be the best one, its gonna be huge

and for people who say they dont like watching games they like playing them and that if they wanted to watch a movie theyd watch a movie

i would like to know a movie with better plotlines and charachters than an MGS game

MGS3 made me choke up and tear

lordsettra12

theres tons of movies with better plotlines and characters than MGS, guess you have never seen a Hayao Miyazaki movie as he always delievers great plotlines, characters and very emotional scenes

Um no there isn't. No Kubrick, Scorcese, Coppola, Polanski, Lynch, Hitchcock or any of the great directors come close to MGS plot or characters


Um thats your opinion, but don't make it seem like it's a fact.
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[QUOTE="smackbang"]MGS3 was much better, Raiden was just really anoyying.lordsettra12
MGS3 is the worst in the series. Bad characters besides the Boss and Snake. terrible simple minded story, lame game altogethor. Kojima sold out for this 1

He sold out by improving every aspect of the gameplay and having a coherent story?

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#33 lordsettra12
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[QUOTE="lordsettra12"][QUOTE="smackbang"]MGS3 was much better, Raiden was just really anoyying.crushed21

MGS3 is the worst in the series. Bad characters besides the Boss and Snake. terrible simple minded story, lame game altogethor. Kojima sold out for this 1

He sold out by improving every aspect of the gameplay and having a coherent story?

coherent? he simplified the story and the characters. That's the most important part about a MGS game and he simplified it
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#34 Blanco98
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Well i think it was one of the best ever...I mean the game was released back in 02 and the graphics were amazing...That game is around my top 5 maybe top 10 but w/e it is awsome...
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#35 6matt6
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no, i liked the game but i want to play the game thank you.

i can run through the game in a few hours now(not including cutscenes.) the games have great stories but the gameplay isnt the best.

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#36 crushed21
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[QUOTE="crushed21"]

[QUOTE="lordsettra12"][QUOTE="smackbang"]MGS3 was much better, Raiden was just really anoyying.lordsettra12

MGS3 is the worst in the series. Bad characters besides the Boss and Snake. terrible simple minded story, lame game altogethor. Kojima sold out for this 1

He sold out by improving every aspect of the gameplay and having a coherent story?

coherent? he simplified the story and the characters. That's the most important part about a MGS game and he simplified it

He made the story more accessible but it was a still a compelling mgs worthy story. Combine that with the gameplay that was far superior to the previous games and you have the best mgs ever made.

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#37 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="lordsettra12"][QUOTE="Mitazaki"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

i agree, i think MGS4 will be the best one, its gonna be huge

and for people who say they dont like watching games they like playing them and that if they wanted to watch a movie theyd watch a movie

i would like to know a movie with better plotlines and charachters than an MGS game

MGS3 made me choke up and tear

bkslayer

theres tons of movies with better plotlines and characters than MGS, guess you have never seen a Hayao Miyazaki movie as he always delievers great plotlines, characters and very emotional scenes

Um no there isn't. No Kubrick, Scorcese, Coppola, Polanski, Lynch, Hitchcock or any of the great directors come close to MGS plot or characters


Um thats your opinion, but don't make it seem like it's a fact.

True Story

and if he was as good as Kubrick, Scorcese, Coppola he'd be making movies and not games

he's not so he has to make games

now dont get me wrong MGS are some of my fav games but they are not the end all be all

if so they would sell alot more copies than they do