Metal Gear Solid 4 has one of the best Soundtracks of all time

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for trollhunter2
trollhunter2

2054

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#1 trollhunter2
Member since 2012 • 2054 Posts

Its so good, I'm still getting goosebumps from Snake's opening speech

Seriously, one of the best openings to a videogame of all time

Haters be damned

Avatar image for Cloud_imperium
Cloud_imperium

15146

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 103

User Lists: 8

#2 Cloud_imperium
Member since 2013 • 15146 Posts

MGS 4 indeed has some of the best soundtracks ever created. Harry Gregson-Williams did a great job.

Avatar image for elpresador-911
Elpresador-911

1096

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#3 Elpresador-911
Member since 2013 • 1096 Posts

MGS4 is the best metal gear game ever

Avatar image for trollhunter2
trollhunter2

2054

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#4 trollhunter2
Member since 2012 • 2054 Posts

@elpresador-911 said:

MGS4 is the best metal gear game ever

Yup, MGSV is still great gameplay-wise, but the story wasnt as good. It cathered too much to Peace Walker fans. Makes it even more sad that Kojima won't do another Metal Gear ;_;

MGS feels wrong without Kojima, the guy that created the Stealth genre all by himself.

Seriously Konami took the biggest L

Avatar image for Martin_G_N
Martin_G_N

2124

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 Martin_G_N
Member since 2006 • 2124 Posts
@elpresador-911 said:

MGS4 is the best metal gear game ever

This. And yes, Harry Gregson Williams did an awesome job with the soundtrack. All the way back to MGS2 he added a lot to the series, that was only reserved to good movies.

Avatar image for Heil68
Heil68

60833

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#6 Heil68
Member since 2004 • 60833 Posts

It is awesome, but there are a few like Halo3, DMC IV and Uncharted 3, I hope Uncharted 4 is just as good!

Avatar image for uninspiredcup
uninspiredcup

62903

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 86

User Lists: 2

#7 uninspiredcup
Member since 2013 • 62903 Posts

Uncharted 4 is better.

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#8 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

@elpresador-911 said:

MGS4 is the best metal gear game ever

It's awful and practically ruined everything good about the entire franchise.

Avatar image for dantesergei
dantesergei

2254

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#9 dantesergei
Member since 2004 • 2254 Posts

@foxhound_fox said:
@elpresador-911 said:

MGS4 is the best metal gear game ever

It's awful and practically ruined everything good about the entire franchise.

My heart aches when i say this, but MGSV did that.

Avatar image for koko-goal
koko-goal

1122

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#10 koko-goal
Member since 2008 • 1122 Posts

Every MGS game has a VERY memorable soundtrack.

Avatar image for ConanTheStoner
ConanTheStoner

23838

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 ConanTheStoner  Online
Member since 2011 • 23838 Posts
@foxhound_fox said:

It's awful and practically ruined everything good about the entire franchise.

+1 and I'm out lol. Can't do this topic anymore.

-

As for the soundtrack, yeah it was pretty nice. I still prefer the OSTs for MGS2, MGSV, and especially MGS3. MGS3s soundtrack is godlike.

Avatar image for aigis
aigis

7355

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 43

User Lists: 0

#12 aigis
Member since 2015 • 7355 Posts

@foxhound_fox: Naw MGS 4 was good. It wasnt the best in the series, but it wasnt bad.

Avatar image for ConanTheStoner
ConanTheStoner

23838

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 ConanTheStoner  Online
Member since 2011 • 23838 Posts

Well, just one more thing...

@trollhunter2 said:

Kojima, the guy that created the Stealth genre all by himself.

There were stealth games before Metal Gear and there was a 3d stealth game before Metal Gear Solid. And while Kojima is one of the most influential guys to work in the genre, it was much of a back and forth. Lots of games in the genre borrowed from each other.

You could credit Kojima for popularizing the genre and adding much to its evolution, but that's about it.

Avatar image for lamprey263
lamprey263

45482

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#14  Edited By lamprey263
Member since 2006 • 45482 Posts

in one of the worst games ever made

MGS5 is easily a much superior game worthy of its acclaim I just find it strange it's so vilified for actually bieng playable, as for MGS4 I think people just wanted to give it a dignified farewell, like a congressman that should go to jail that gets a standing ovation for their service on their last day that lasts several minutes, I feel MGS4's praise comes from the series past success, the game was written as to give it fan service rather than serve as something that stands on its own, MGS4 isn't a game, it's a gigantic cutscenes with bouts of gameplay as an intermission

it's so strange Kojima does have the good sense for presentation in areas like design, and the audio and visuals and elements of the writing (like the big ideas on the story's, settings, etc), hell his games seem to always get praise for being technical marvels of sorts, but then he just really suffers with delivery in other areas like over-writing, telling not showing, and dragging scenes out needlessly to the point it came make a game painful to play

Avatar image for SOedipus
SOedipus

15072

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 SOedipus
Member since 2006 • 15072 Posts

No.

Avatar image for JangoWuzHere
JangoWuzHere

19032

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#16 JangoWuzHere
Member since 2007 • 19032 Posts

It was overly melodramatic and sappy.

Much preferred the OST for other MGS games, especially MGSV.

Avatar image for uninspiredcup
uninspiredcup

62903

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 86

User Lists: 2

#17  Edited By uninspiredcup
Member since 2013 • 62903 Posts

Didn't like Harry Gregson Williams much either, bit generic. The PS1 soundtrack (whoever did that) had an awesome moody soundtrack.

https://youtu.be/Hv3gyq2f3Xo

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#18 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

@aigis said:

@foxhound_fox: Naw MGS 4 was good. It wasnt the best in the series, but it wasnt bad.

It retconned almost everything built up to that point with...

The gameplay was great in the first two Acts, but those lasted far too little time and the third, fourth and fifth Acts were nothing but tripe, fan service and even greater fan service.

The game was clearly designed by committee and Kojima had little to no input. It would have been significantly more cohesive... and for a Kojima game to be more cohesive than an attempt to make a Kojima-like game is an insult to anyone who makes a Kojima-like game.

Avatar image for organic_machine
organic_machine

10143

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#19  Edited By organic_machine
Member since 2004 • 10143 Posts
@foxhound_fox said:
@aigis said:

@foxhound_fox: Naw MGS 4 was good. It wasnt the best in the series, but it wasnt bad.

It retconned almost everything built up to that point with...

The gameplay was great in the first two Acts, but those lasted far too little time and the third, fourth and fifth Acts were nothing but tripe, fan service and even greater fan service.

The game was clearly designed by committee and Kojima had little to no input. It would have been significantly more cohesive... and for a Kojima game to be more cohesive than an attempt to make a Kojima-like game is an insult to anyone who makes a Kojima-like game.

Even the gameplay in Acts 1 and 2 weren't all that great either. There was a clear "sneak" and a clear "aid the rebels" path. It left a really great first impression until you realized that you didn't have as many real options as you thought you had.

ON TOPIC: Yes, the soundtrack was awesome and might have been the best soundtrack in the series. Maybe.

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#20 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

@organic_machine said:

Even the gameplay in Acts 1 and 2 weren't all that great either. There was a clear "sneak" and a clear "aid the rebels" path. It left a really great first impression until you realized that you didn't have as many real options as you thought you had.

Considering I replayed MGS2 and MGS3 probably a good 40-50 times EACH just in the main stories, let alone all the additional content (Skateboarding in MGS2S I probably invested a good 50-60 hours in by itself), the fact I only finished MGS4 once and couldn't be arsed to go through it a second time is very telling about how much I valued the gameplay.

Hell, I have 5 hours in MGSV:GZ and I think I completed the mission 6-7 times.

Avatar image for organic_machine
organic_machine

10143

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#21 organic_machine
Member since 2004 • 10143 Posts

@foxhound_fox said:
@organic_machine said:

Even the gameplay in Acts 1 and 2 weren't all that great either. There was a clear "sneak" and a clear "aid the rebels" path. It left a really great first impression until you realized that you didn't have as many real options as you thought you had.

Considering I replayed MGS2 and MGS3 probably a good 40-50 times EACH just in the main stories, let alone all the additional content (Skateboarding in MGS2S I probably invested a good 50-60 hours in by itself), the fact I only finished MGS4 once and couldn't be arsed to go through it a second time is very telling about how much I valued the gameplay.

Hell, I have 5 hours in MGSV:GZ and I think I completed the mission 6-7 times.

It's funny, everyone gives MGS5 crap. But the first thing I thought when I got to the ending was: "Yep, he's definitely the guy who made MGS2." lol!

Avatar image for deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
deactivated-57ad0e5285d73

21398

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
Member since 2009 • 21398 Posts

@trollhunter2:

There's some really good stuff,as with all the mgs games, however I bought the soundtrack(imported) and to be honest there's more weak stuff imo.

Avatar image for a-new-guardian
A-new-Guardian

2458

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#23  Edited By A-new-Guardian
Member since 2015 • 2458 Posts

Every time MGS4 is mentioned the same butthurt known faces come to post about how much they hated it. It's like the game took the life of someone precious lol. It's become a broken record at this point. MGSIV will be engraved in these butthurt minds forever. Not to say they don't have invalid opinions of course every one is welcome to share but at this point it's just tiring lol.

The second most memorable soundtrack in the series, probably the most actually ( MGSV pales in comparison) . I loved the fan service and the zaniness of the cutscenes. However it is indeed a disappointing game compared to its prequel. I still really enjoyed it and would love see a reimagining with the Fox Engine.

Avatar image for ni6htmare01
ni6htmare01

3990

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 ni6htmare01
Member since 2005 • 3990 Posts

MGS 2 to 5 has awesome sound track.

Avatar image for trollhunter2
trollhunter2

2054

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#25 trollhunter2
Member since 2012 • 2054 Posts

The hate is undeserved imo. Kojima strongly focused on storytelling at the time, while maintaining the mgs stealth gameplay we all know and love. He really did set a new bar for story driven games, which is undeniable. Now with MGSV he mostly focused on gameplay, after initial complaints about MGS4 have too many cutscenes.

Now the fanboys complain that its too much unnecessary gameplay and not enough story :/

You just can't satisfy the fanboys

Also solid snake will forever be > Big Boss for me

Avatar image for ReadingRainbow4
ReadingRainbow4

18733

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#26  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
Member since 2012 • 18733 Posts

agreed.

MGS in general is just on a pedestal I'd hold along Castlevania when it comes to god like musical prowess.

Konami used to be such a fucking beast.

Avatar image for Cloud_imperium
Cloud_imperium

15146

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 103

User Lists: 8

#27 Cloud_imperium
Member since 2013 • 15146 Posts

@trollhunter2 said:
@elpresador-911 said:

MGS4 is the best metal gear game ever

Yup, MGSV is still great gameplay-wise, but the story wasnt as good. It cathered too much to Peace Walker fans. Makes it even more sad that Kojima won't do another Metal Gear ;_;

MGS feels wrong without Kojima, the guy that created the Stealth genre all by himself.

Seriously Konami took the biggest L

He didn't create Stealth genre though.

Avatar image for unrealgunner
UnrealGunner

1073

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 UnrealGunner
Member since 2015 • 1073 Posts

Well obviously it does it's a 8 hour movie

Avatar image for deactivated-58319077a6477
deactivated-58319077a6477

4954

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29  Edited By deactivated-58319077a6477
Member since 2007 • 4954 Posts

The series as a whole is known for having great soundtracks. a lot of people consider it the best in the series, but for me MGS3 is the best.

Also, the feature that MGS4 had in the first two acts of having rebels fighting the PMCs should have been included in MGSV it would have been more interesting

Avatar image for FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife

3948

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#30 FreedomFreeLife
Member since 2013 • 3948 Posts

I think OP has no idea what the hell he is talking about. SOUNDTRACK? This means only 1 SOUNDTRACK but a whole game was meh music. NOBODY CARES WHAT GAME HAS GOOD SOUNDTRACK, I WANT GOOD OST, NOT SOUNDTRACK JUST FOR 1 SCENE. OMFG!!!!!!!!

For this soundtrack its good but for good OST? Nope since a whole game had bad music

Avatar image for trollhunter2
trollhunter2

2054

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#31 trollhunter2
Member since 2012 • 2054 Posts

@FreedomFreeLife said:

I think OP has no idea what the hell he is talking about. SOUNDTRACK? This means only 1 SOUNDTRACK but a whole game was meh music. NOBODY CARES WHAT GAME HAS GOOD SOUNDTRACK, I WANT GOOD OST, NOT SOUNDTRACK JUST FOR 1 SCENE. OMFG!!!!!!!!

For this soundtrack its good but for good OST? Nope since a whole game had bad music

Stop feeding me with your wrong opinions. One of the best "Soundtrack"? One of the best soundtracks is right dude, if you implied a grammatical error :/

Also as if I would post the whole score in the OT, I have something else to do

Avatar image for FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife

3948

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#32 FreedomFreeLife
Member since 2013 • 3948 Posts
@trollhunter2 said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:

I think OP has no idea what the hell he is talking about. SOUNDTRACK? This means only 1 SOUNDTRACK but a whole game was meh music. NOBODY CARES WHAT GAME HAS GOOD SOUNDTRACK, I WANT GOOD OST, NOT SOUNDTRACK JUST FOR 1 SCENE. OMFG!!!!!!!!

For this soundtrack its good but for good OST? Nope since a whole game had bad music

Stop feeding me with your wrong opinions. One of the best "Soundtrack"? One of the best soundtracks is right dude, if you implied a grammatical error :/

Also as if I would post the whole score in the OT, I have something else to do

A WHOLE GAME OST must be good, not just cutscenes. I don't play cut-scenes. I want gameplay with good OST, not just menu theme or cut scenes. I said 1 soundtrack because GAMEPLAY OST must be good, not CREDIT scene

Avatar image for trollhunter2
trollhunter2

2054

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#33 trollhunter2
Member since 2012 • 2054 Posts

@FreedomFreeLife said:
@trollhunter2 said:
@FreedomFreeLife said:

I think OP has no idea what the hell he is talking about. SOUNDTRACK? This means only 1 SOUNDTRACK but a whole game was meh music. NOBODY CARES WHAT GAME HAS GOOD SOUNDTRACK, I WANT GOOD OST, NOT SOUNDTRACK JUST FOR 1 SCENE. OMFG!!!!!!!!

For this soundtrack its good but for good OST? Nope since a whole game had bad music

Stop feeding me with your wrong opinions. One of the best "Soundtrack"? One of the best soundtracks is right dude, if you implied a grammatical error :/

Also as if I would post the whole score in the OT, I have something else to do

A WHOLE GAME OST must be good, not just cutscenes. I don't play cut-scenes. I want gameplay with good OST, not just menu theme or cut scenes. I said 1 soundtrack because GAMEPLAY OST must be good, not CREDIT scene

soundtrack is soundtrack. Even if music comes during cutscenes only. Your entire post adds nothing to this discussion, as I'm talking about the soundtrack not gameplay or cutscenes

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#34  Edited By foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

@a-new-guardian said:

Every time MGS4 is mentioned the same butthurt known faces come to post about how much they hated it. It's like the game took the life of someone precious lol. It's become a broken record at this point. MGSIV will be engraved in these butthurt minds forever. Not to say they don't have invalid opinions of course every one is welcome to share but at this point it's just tiring lol.

Please explain how MGS4 is a good game. I am curious to know how you as a MGS fan could justify enjoying it.

You cannot just dismiss negative opinions by hand-waving them away and not offering some sort of explanation as to why you think they are wrong.

Avatar image for deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20

82724

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 56

User Lists: 0

#35  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
Member since 2006 • 82724 Posts

It's not even the best MGS soundtrack ever (that one is 3). It's pretty good, but good god does it get overbearing at times. Much like the game itself.

And for those who say MGS4 is the best game in the series- lol. Just lol. I'm not getting into this argument again, because I've done it too many times in the last few years, but I can say this, GotP almost ruined any any all interest I had in the franchise, that story was utter trash.

MGSV is so much better. The story is non existent but that doesn't matter, because the game does t shove it in my face every chance it gets. I really need to get back to it one day.

Avatar image for 2mrw
2mrw

6206

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#36 2mrw
Member since 2008 • 6206 Posts

@charizard1605 said:

It's not even the best MGS soundtrack ever (that one is 3). It's pretty good, but good god does it get overbearing at times. Much like the game itself.

And for those who say MGS4 is the best game in the series- lol. Just lol. I'm not getting into this argument again, because I've done it too many times in the last few years, but I can say this, GotP almost ruined any any all interest I had in the franchise, that story was utter trash.

MGSV is so much better. The story is non existent but that doesn't matter, because the game does t shove it in my face every chance it gets. I really need to get back to it one day.

For me MGS doesn't mean shit without good story. I liked MGS4 story and really enjoyed, it was not perfect and I think solid snake deserves much better finale but it is what it is.

Even if MGS4 is not the best in the series, I accept it as a part of the saga, while imo MGS5 is too bad, it should have been a spin off.

Avatar image for a-new-guardian
A-new-Guardian

2458

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#37  Edited By A-new-Guardian
Member since 2015 • 2458 Posts

@foxhound_fox: because it's impossible for people to enjoy something that you didn't right?

on the cutscenes side I already did. It's like Kojima made an anime with a ridiculous plot with over the top scenes. It was just crazy fun to watch the fan service

On the gameplay front act 3 was the weakest chapter MGS series has ever had. Some might say the noir themed setting in that chapter and stalking the guy then having an on rails bike gameplay ending with a boss is great for a first time playthrough but the more I replay the game, the more it's flaws became apparent. The rest of the acts especially act 1 and 2 were the best it had to offer on the gameplay side. It was like playing Rambo with a cameo suit. Lots of fun sniping and sneaking around in the jungle area. It was great. Act 4 was pure fan service and it was great to see shadowmoses in modern graphics. I was blown away and it was fun trying to stealth that act with chaff grenades and fight ocelot with giant mechs and that vamp fight was good. Act 5 was somewhat weak in the beginning but the rest of it was some of the best MGS moments I've experienced.

MGS IV is not even close to the best MGS game but it certainly is not a bad game at all. I really enjoyed it. Yes it could have been so much better but what I got out of it was worth it. Proof of how much I loved it is replaying the game so much, act 1 and 2 in particular were the highlight gameplay wise and I wished he focused more on that.

Edit: MGS3 absolutely had the best boss fights of the series. MGS4 was just good in my opinion. A lot of things could have been much better but it's still a satisfying end to the series.

Avatar image for Seabas989
Seabas989

13567

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#38  Edited By Seabas989
Member since 2009 • 13567 Posts

MGS4 sucked. Act 1 and 2 were the only decent parts of that game but I feel like that franchise has never had great gameplay until MGSV. Plus the boss fights were for the most part garbage.

The soundtrack was alright but not as memorable as the others. I think other franchises overall have better OSTs then Metal Gear.