Metal Gear Solid 4 visual....and writing...

In my PROUD opinion, MGS4's visual doesn't age that well.

After playing "colourful" games like FF XIII (yes I like the visual), Mass Effect 2 and some other game with great particles effects, looking at MGS4 is like wearing a washed-out shirt. The visual is "dusty" and "muddy-ish."

Killzone 2 might be mono-colour, but it has great particle effects.

Even looking at WoW: Cataclysm "Wowed" me more than MGS4 even though the engine might not be as advance. This is due to Blizzard art department.

I think Kojima needs to hire better artists.

Or maybe that is just his style?

Still, it is an amazing game. The writing only needs better editor.

that's great dear,

i've never said this before, but there's a first for everything; this is blog material.:)

looking at MGS4 is like wearing a washed-out shirt. The visual is "dusty" and "muddy-ish."Ravenchrome

Metal Gear Solid 4 does look sort of bland.

Considering where he goes it makes sense.

Huh I know there are games that are technically superior now, but I think in an artistic sense and technically, it is still nice to look at.

MGS4 rules, half-life sucks. now what?

The artistic talent behind the production of MGS covers ALONE is greater than all of blizzard's artistic talent.

EDIT:

That also goes for Valve, sorry.

The artistic talent behind the production of MGS covers ALONE is greater than all of blizzard's artistic talent.

EDIT:

That also goes for Valve, sorry.

wootasifwoot

MGS4 rules, half-life sucks. now what?

right4dead

[QUOTE="right4dead"]

MGS4 rules, half-life sucks. now what?

Ravenchrome

Multiplayer I can agree on (mostly because it was too slow for my multiplayer taste) but... story? And pretentious? Over using the word btw.

Anyways, clearly you're confused about the story but no worries, there's a database for mgs you can download (via psn) and have a read through, if you so wish.

Also, storywise, MGS series > any other.

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[QUOTE="right4dead"]

MGS4 rules, half-life sucks. now what?

wootasifwoot

Multiplayer I can agree on (mostly because it was too slow for my multiplayer taste) but... story? And pretentious? Over using the word btw.

Anyways, clearly you're confused about the story but no worries, there's a database for mgs you can download (via psn) and have a read through, if you so wish.

Also, storywise, MGS series > any other.

[/QUOTE I enjoy the stories in the MG franchise (except for MGS4) and I would even say some of the titles do come off as pretentious story wise. Also I have experienced better stories in video games (not that's saying much though)

MGS4 rules, half-life sucks. now what?

right4dead

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]looking at MGS4 is like wearing a washed-out shirt. The visual is "dusty" and "muddy-ish."Antitheist-

FF13 is visually and graphically one of the best-looking games around especially for a console game. I couldn't find anything wrong with it. No jaggies, no low-res textures. Beautiful looking game that rivals many maxed out PC games and stomps out some of them too.

MGS4 hasn't aged gracefully, that's for sure. But then again, it wasn't perfect since day one. Cutscenes looked amazing, but the graveyard low-res foliage was a huge turn off.. and some of the beginning levels screamed low-resolution.

WOW has always looked great to me. Never been about technical prowess but more about visual art style. Over the last few years, they've been updating the textures and such and it still looks great today.

At the end of the day, the MGS series has made a huge impact on the gaming industry. I wouldn't be able to call myself a true gamer without having played MGS, as much as I am proud to say I've played all the Half Life games. They go hand and hand.. and they are both juggernauts in the gaming industry.

Well MGS:R looks considerably better, so they've made some noticeable improvements to the engine. themyth01

Actually I am still amazed and surprised by the game visuals. the textures are the weakest part in the gfx, other than that. the game looks awesome .

Yoji Shinkawa ia awesome, and one of my favorite artists out there. His books for MGS1-4 are incredible. So I disagree with you in that regard.

MGS4's visuals are sub-par though, I'll agree (sans character models). It ain't the art that's problem, but more of the fact that it's really blurry due to the sub-hd resolution. Plus it has a clumsey framerate and poor textures.

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]looking at MGS4 is like wearing a washed-out shirt. The visual is "dusty" and "muddy-ish."Antitheist-

The visuals in MGS4 were never that impressive to me.

I just beat it, and the way the characters faces looked when they were talking looked...weird. When they were upset, it looked the same as when they were happy. The animations seemed kind of...stiff...in that category. Otherwise it was a pretty game, but nothing spectacular.

And the writing was at times...*$&#ing ridiculous. Absolutely terrible. Teeth gratingly bad. Then there were times were it was very, very good. The opening in particular was really good.

My favorite part was Crying Wolf.

When they were upset, it looked the same as when they were happy. The animations seemed kind of...stiff...in that category. Otherwise it was a pretty game, but nothing spectacular.

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When they were upset, it looked the same as when they were happy. The animations seemed kind of...stiff...in that category. Otherwise it was a pretty game, but nothing spectacular.

iMojo786_PSN

I'm saying their faces rarely ever actually changed. At least it looked that way to me.

[QUOTE="Antitheist-"][QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]looking at MGS4 is like wearing a washed-out shirt. The visual is "dusty" and "muddy-ish."iMojo786_PSN

MGS4 has great visuals, but the writing is mediocre.

Are you guys adjusting your TVs properly and not playing your games using old composite cables in 480i?:?

MGS4 is one of the best games I have played in a while (and I play a lot of games). The graphics among other things are top notch in my view. I'm playing it on a 24' 1080p LCD monitor via HDMI 1.4 and its a truly gorgeous game to look at.....

Well what do you expect you are comparing first PS3 game for Kojima Productions, MGS4 was there first chance to work with PS3 hardware, and even then they worked with varying hardware since MGS4 started as a PS2 game, and was in development for 4 years, but you're comparing it to Mass Effect 2 which of course has better visuals since its more colorful and is the second game in the series on the 360 platform, additionally, Mass Effect 1 started as a 360 game so BioWare worked with that console from day one, as well as making Dragon Age in between ME 1 and ME2.

I somewhat agree but still Act 3, 4 and 5 hold up really well. Acts 1 and 2 though look great are inconsistent.

While its not the best looking game it still is pleasing to the eye. I also enoyed the story.

I popped in MGS 4 the other day and played it in 1080p. The game still looks great. Artistically, escpecially.

MGS4 does look really grey tbh

MGS has always had God-awful writing. Interesting concepts, but Ubisoft levels of execution.

I recently beat it again, and I thought it still looked great ...

IDK, the game's visuals are still one of its high points IMO.

I realize that they are not technically all that, but they still look incredibly clean, and the artstyle, save for a few sligthly bland environments, is definitely unique. It has a sort of comic realism that distinguishes it visually from a game like COD.

The textures are rather flat and thegraphics don't "pop" the way some other games do, but one can definitely tell that alot went into crafting the visuals. They could have done alot more as far as the gameplay graphics are concerned, but those cutscenes are still look amazing (though admittedly I haven't seen them in a few months, since I sold my PS3; but I'm sure they are still stunning) and its cutscene/gameplay transitions, IMO,are actually better than that of UC2 even if UC2 spanks it overall in visual fidelity and quality.

The problem with MGS's visuals has more to dowith its fanboys IMO. They just overhype them to the point that you think to yourself, "There are so many games that look better than this." I would argue that MGS4 was never a console graphics king at any time. The first Uncharted and Gears (atleast the second)both look much better.

MGS$ is 2 years old.... so why argue now,,,,,, just adjust your HDtv screen colour, sharpness, softness and brightness option..... there you go.... all done!