MGS IS a System Seller(Beware, hard facts inside)

Okay, im gonna beat down the myth that MGS is not a system seller.

First, lets look at sales and the game's postion in sales:

MGS1 6.6 mill 7th highest selling game on the ps1

MGS2 7 mill 6th highest selling game on the ps2. The 5 games that beat it were 3 GTAs and the 2 GTs. Everyone knows what juggernauts they are and being second to them is quite a feet.

MGS3 3.7 mill 9th highest selling game on the ps2.

Take in mind that anything that sells over 500,000 copies is considered a hit.

Okay, so every MGS game has been in the top ten of best selling on its respective console. Now lets look at scores, Im not including any of the re-releases:

Gamespot 8.5 Gamerankings 92.7%

Gamespot 9.6 Gamerankings 94.9%

Gamespot 8.7 Gamrerankings 91.6%

Now, lets talk about the sales and scores combined. As you can see, the sales kind of reflect the scores. MGS2 had the highest, with MGS3 the lowest.

MGS1: This was a revolutionary game. Never before had voice acting, story, graphics, gameplay, and a musical score come to blend so perfectly in a videogame. Most people call it one of the best games of all time. IGN called it the best PS1 game. It is on the top 100 games of all time on numerous sites. Even System Wars polled it as the best game of the ps1/n64 era(It would be awesome if someone gave me the link) It was critisized for its short length though.

MGS2: Another revolutionary game. It was THE first game of the generation to feature such brilliant graphics. It refined the gameplay of MGS1 and introduced numerous things. Critics hailed it as a reason to get the ps2.

MGS3: Even though it was a great game it was by no means revolutionary. It introduced new things but pretty much all the new features except CQC were critisized. The graphics were great but by no means ahead of the rest of the pack.

Okay now, lets talk hype.

MGS1 was hyped a lot. Everyone was going crazy for it.

MGS2 was hyped like crazy, it was always the showcase of the floor. It was first next gen game to show such amazing graphics.

MGS3 had barely no hype at all. It was late in the ps2s gen and wasnt doing much new. It wasnt revolutionary.

MGS4 is recieving crazy hype. Every single gameshow its on, it steals the floor. Magazines keep touting it. You know how much free publicity this game gets just because of the "will this be ported to 360" debate. MGS4 has BY FAR recieved the most hype out of all MGS games.

You might have noticed a pattern above, more hype more sales(duh). So MGS4 will sell.

Honestly, how many times have you heard, Im buying a ps3 for mgs4, ill buy a ps3 around the time mgs4 comes out, only reason I want a ps3 is for MGS4. Ive heard it hundreds of times.

And now the System Seller debate. MGS2 moved ps2s. It gave it a boost in the beginning to get it started. Gears of War moved 360s, didnt it sell like 2 mill 360s?

MGS4 will do the same that GEOW and MGS2 did for the 360 and ps2.

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2) MGS4 is going to do extremely well in reviews and sales. No need to worry.

3) MGS3 got TONS on hype. Why do you think all of the cows went crazy when it flopped? (although the special edition got AAA)

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@tc, MSG is a system seller.

If it sells 3 million or more I will consider it a system seller in the general sense of the word. I think with the 40 gig incoming and the pricedrops it will get there. For me personally , it is my system selling game if there is such a thing.

If it sells 3 million or more I will consider it a system seller in the general sense of the word. I think with the 40 gig incoming and the pricedrops it will get there. For me personally , it is my system selling game if there is such a thing.

Nike_Air

What other game will move PS3's like MGS4? (Besides GT or FF in 2008)

Everyone and my Grandma, Her Dog, and the Dogs Food Bowl, The water in the bowl, The Particles in the Water says,

They will BUY a PS3 once MGS4 Drops.

A topic with valid points gets no posts while topics such as zomg ps3 has no games lolz gets at least 10 pages?Uzumaki_Naruto5

welcome to originality

A topic with valid points gets no posts while topics such as zomg ps3 has no games lolz gets at least 10 pages?Uzumaki_Naruto5

This is SW what you expect.

Nice post.

Yes its a system seller.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Franchises

Its 27th best selling franchise, 20 million, tied with the Halo Franchise, so that must mean if MGS is not a system seller then neither is Halo
GarchomPro

you've got a valid point there, mate. Nicely scientific post you made there, it's good to see that some people area ctaully capable of making such claims with proper research and evidence to back up said claims :)

i REALLY dont care if it moves consoles or not :(

all i care about is that it is as awesome as 3 and 1 and that i want it now

Who ever said it was a system seller? Big franchise? yes, huge fan base? definitely, but I've never seen MGS be the core title in terms of selling a system. Except for in my case that I didn't buy a PS2 til MGS2 was out and I wouldn't have bought a PS3 if MGS4 wasn't gonna be on it. So for me it WAS a system seller, as for in general disagree even though theres a grip of MGS fans out there.DirtyRotten

I'm sorry but it is a system seller. The numbers prove it. Lots of people are waiting for this game to buy a PS3.

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If it sells 3 million or more I will consider it a system seller in the general sense of the word. I think with the 40 gig incoming and the pricedrops it will get there. For me personally , it is my system selling game if there is such a thing.

trinawoods

What other game will move PS3's like MGS4? (Besides GT or FF in 2008)

Everyone and my Grandma, Her Dog, and the Dogs Food Bowl, The water in the bowl, The Particles in the Water says,

They will BUY a PS3 once MGS4 Drops.

A topic with valid points gets no posts while topics such as zomg ps3 has no games lolz gets at least 10 pages?Uzumaki_Naruto5

Haha, lol that is cracking me up right now...lol:lol:.

1-MGS 1>MGS 2>>>>MGS 3
2- Yes i thought MGS 3 was disapointing.
3- MGS OWNS
4-MGS 4 will make me buy a PS3.
5- what is the point of this, any doubts about MGS 4 not being a system seller will be silenced during its release.

I guess I should explain that when I think of a system seller I think of a game that the big wigs hype up over and over, milk the crap out of, secure the rights to, release some sort of edible or drinkable product that has the games protagonist posing like a bad ass half way across the label, and have MTV specials devoted to pretending they give two craps about whatever game they got paid millions of wing-wangs ($$$) to call it "totally awesome!!", like inside that shiney game disc contains a personalized voice mail from God telling you that you're his personal favorite human... *deep breath* I know Sony has never treated the MGS series like some lightweight franchise but I've also never got the impression that they personally thought it was their flagship game even though the trailers alone have always stolen the show again and again at conventions. I'm actually glad it doesn't get that kind of treatment, unless it does in Japan?DirtyRotten

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

I can see a big boost in sales over the next 5 months for the PS3, what with the price drop and the advent of MGS4 next spring.

If MGS4 remains exclusive, I will almost assuredly by a PS3 just to play it.

Uncharted and MGS 4 are the 2 games my wifes brother in law talks about getting a PS3 for. He's totally a 360 guy.

Nearly all Lems on GS were extremely excited when they thought it was coming to the 360.

It's obvious that about 80%+ of PS3 owners will buy this game. So if by February-March there's 7 million PS3's sold then there will be 5.6 million+ MGS 4 games sold.

Yes its a system seller.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Franchises

Its 27th best selling franchise, 20 million, tied with the Halo Franchise, so that must mean if MGS is not a system seller then neither is Halo
GarchomPro

3 Halo games against how many Metal Gear games? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Devil May Cry 4 will be alot better than Ninja Gaiden 2.Adrian_Cloud

A lot huh?:roll:

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Yes its a system seller.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Franchises

Its 27th best selling franchise, 20 million, tied with the Halo Franchise, so that must mean if MGS is not a system seller then neither is Halo
butteater86

3 Halo games against how many Metal Gear games? Yeah, that's what I thought.

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[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Yes its a system seller.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Franchises

Its 27th best selling franchise, 20 million, tied with the Halo Franchise, so that must mean if MGS is not a system seller then neither is Halo
Adrian_Cloud

3 Halo games against how many Metal Gear games? Yeah, that's what I thought.

metal gear has more than 3 games bud and halo is more popular anyway