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#1 PS3_3DO
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Did anyone see the MGS4 trailer today? It looks less impressive then the last one at TGS.

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#2 nolson
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I think your crazy, especially seeing how he said the gameplay will look like that.
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#3 rat_pac
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Yea it does look slightly downgraded, but I will wait till I see a HD trailer of it before I judge it, I'm sure it will look better when its closer to release and we know the PS3 can do pretty graphics so I'm sure its not a big problem for Hideo and his team.
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#4 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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Snake's character model looked crisper with less rough edges in the new trailer. That's about the only difference I could see, because I could only watch it in SD.

I didn't notice any sort of downgrade, however.

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#5 solidsnakeEx3
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Looked pretty much the same to me. The only flaws I saw were that some of the shadows on some surfaces were not smooth, and Meryl's hair didn't move.
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#6 sPOON_f33dU
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would it be an upgrade if it went multiplat?
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#7 zzzaaa
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The PSN HD trailer of it looks great.
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#8 Killfox
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Yeah um lets see. Doesnt come out till next year. Lets hold this thread another day when its actually close to being complete.
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#9 darthogre
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rofl, only a fanboy would say it was downgraded without even seeing the real game. What they showed was the engine so the technically the graphics will all look like that. What's funny is fanboys like yourself without realizing it was saying "that wasn't footage, it was CGI"......hahaha, means they agree the game will look like CGI quality then.
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#10 PS3_3DO
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Yea it does look slightly downgraded, but I will wait till I see a HD trailer of it before I judge it, I'm sure it will look better when its closer to release and we know the PS3 can do pretty graphics so I'm sure its not a big problem for Hideo and his team. rat_pac

Yeah I knew those trailers last year couldn't be in-game graphics.

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#11 MickeyTheNinja
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Is it just me or was the voice acting THE WORST?! Halfway through it I couldnt stand to listen to it. Snake sounded like such an idiot. It's keeping me from getting it.
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#12 themyth01
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Just wait a week for the gameplay, major cow ownage, the textures still look crappy.
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#13 SegArgyle
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I think your crazy, especially seeing how he said the gameplay will look like that.nolson

what are u talking about? they didnt show any gameplay they never have , all they show is cutscenes

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#14 swade
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R U SERIOUS!!! It looked like a huge upgrade.... Everything looked more crisp this looked like it might be able to beat out crysis... I think you need to compare both trailers. I havent seen the trailer on the computer I've only seen it in HD on the PS3 on a TV though.
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#15 furtherfan
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it looks great. the textures in the surroundings are low quality... bet it;s a PS3 game... kinda comes with the console.
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#16 LuvGaming
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Did anyone see the MGS4 trailer today? It looks less impressive then the last one at TGS.

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Considering that we have yet to see any new footage in HD, I would have to say NOOOOOO!
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#17 archpro
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Just wait a week for the gameplay, major cow ownage, the textures still look crappy. themyth01

Since every game has to have incredible textures to be considered a good game? you 360 fanboys are all about the graphics, aren't you?

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#18 Killfox
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You people are pathetic. You said lair was downgraded and now it looks awesome. Damage controll by lemmings is very pathetic right now. Just because your precious halo3 didnt wow anyone. Even though youll just keep telling yourself that it looks good.
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#19 swade
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Just wait a week for the gameplay, major cow ownage, the textures still look crappy. themyth01

It looks millions of times better than Halo 3 Gears of War and any other game I've seen.

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#20 lilboy561
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YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN XBOTS DONT GET WHAT THEY WANT DO YOU SEE EVERYBODY DO YOU!

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#21 MoldOnHold
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You're kidding right? The trailer looked even better than the others (in HD). Kojima's still tweaking things around. I am confident that the finished product will look even better.
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#22 LuvGaming
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it looks great. the textures in the surroundings are low quality... bet it;s a PS3 game... kinda comes with the console.furtherfan
Yes because 360 never features any low quality textures............ Gears of War had some low quality textures also. Btw.... how about you wait until an HD version of the new MGS 4 trailer is released?
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#23 def_mode
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lemmings give your head a shake...

you say MGS4 is downgraded and yet you guys want this game so bad on 360, doesnt make sense to me.

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#24 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="themyth01"]Just wait a week for the gameplay, major cow ownage, the textures still look crappy. swade

It looks millions of times better than Halo 3 Gears of War and any other game I've seen.

Yeah sure. :lol:

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#25 Zenkuso
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I think it was a very bad trialer, they showed far to much of the story and had to many spoilers in it, other then that i wasn't impressive like i was when i saw MGS2 shown for the second time.
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#26 rat_pac
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You people are pathetic. You said lair was downgraded and now it looks awesome. Damage controll by lemmings is very pathetic right now. Just because your precious halo3 didnt wow anyone. Even though youll just keep telling yourself that it looks good.Killfox

Just so you know im not a lemming, or belong to any of the fanboy tribes, but I do plan on getting a Xbox 360 and PS3, I was never going to get a Nintendo Wii though and Nintendo's showings this year just hit home on why NOT to get a Wii, I just think that it was poor video quality and if you can direct me to a HD version of the MGS4 trailer it would be greatly appreciated ^_^

I really gotta get back into console gaming, I've been a hermit too long :D

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#27 furtherfan
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[QUOTE="themyth01"]Just wait a week for the gameplay, major cow ownage, the textures still look crappy. swade

It looks millions of times better than Halo 3 Gears of War and any other game I've seen.

not the textures. look at the ground, the walls...

the game looks amazing, but come on. be honest to yourself.

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#28 Heil68
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I thought it looked pretty good, have toi wait for next week to give final judgement.
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#30 Dualshockin
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would it be an upgrade if it went multiplat?sPOON_f33dU
Good thing it will never see a day on 360 then,i'm proud of Kojima for standing up to Konami.
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#31 furtherfan
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]it looks great. the textures in the surroundings are low quality... bet it;s a PS3 game... kinda comes with the console.LuvGaming
Yes because 360 never features any low quality textures............ Gears of War had some low quality textures also. Btw.... how about you wait until an HD version of the new MGS 4 trailer is released?

it looks great. the textures in the walls and ground don' look great.... that's just a f'ing FACT.

i'm buying this game too... it will be GREAT!. but Sony bought the wrong graphics card. it shows in almost every game.

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#32 swade
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[QUOTE="swade"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]Just wait a week for the gameplay, major cow ownage, the textures still look crappy. PS3_3DO

It looks millions of times better than Halo 3 Gears of War and any other game I've seen.

Yeah sure. :lol:

Halo 3 looks like crap It looks just like the beta in single player which looks disgustin

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#33 CraigJK
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Im downloading the HD trailer off of the PS store before I have a final opinion, seeing the game in full on a screen it's meant for is best for me. Yeah, computer screens can do HD, but come on.

We may as well make a "DOWNGRADE CONFIRMED OMFG!!! LOL U GET PWNED" sticky topic so these will stop poping up. Happened with Halo 3, MGS4, Killzone, just stfu already, if you don't like how a game looks and you don't own the console that plays it, WHY DO YOU CARE?!

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#34 Dualshockin
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lemmings give your head a shake...

you say MGS4 is downgraded and yet you guys want this game so bad on 360, doesnt make sense to me.

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When Haze was announced as exclusive,it suddenly became "A stupid game". Today will forever be remembered as the day Sony flexed it's muscle.
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#35 darkmanure
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Aww your mad because 360 not getting it.
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#36 B1ACK_MAGE
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:lol: all the lemmings are now saying it looks bad now that it's been confirmed to be a ps3 exclusive
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#37 dracolich666
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would it be an upgrade if it went multiplat?sPOON_f33dU
in 720p YES. Cows dont understand 1080p isnt good when textures are washed out and low res, i would rather have 720p with great textures then 1080p and crap textures.
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#38 joshpetty
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I dont think kojima is going for that photo realistic vipe, mgs4 has its own artistic style, like gears of war which looks totally over the top and no way realistic but it still looks fantanstic, this is down to the art direction.

What people have to realize is a game does'nt have to be photo realistic looking to be considered graphically amazing, theres a difference, take OKAMI for example. If you want to play a game that is striving to be as realistic as possible in graphics terms, look at C0D4 or crysisboth these games are pushing for this, kojima and his team is'nt. Mgs4 is'nt in this catergory.

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#39 blazinpuertoroc
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Is it just me or was the voice acting THE WORST?! Halfway through it I couldnt stand to listen to it. Snake sounded like such an idiot. It's keeping me from getting it.MickeyTheNinja
WHAT THE HELL WERE SMOKING?!?! have you ever played MGS? wow

anyways it was NOT a downgrade? did you see how DETAILED meryl looked compared to the last trailer? not only that she actually looked hot...just look compare the hair she had from both trailers...huge upgrade on the little details...

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#40 robbv1122
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The PSN HD trailer of it looks great.zzzaaa
would it be an upgrade if it went multiplat?sPOON_f33dU

You are 100% right. I bet if it went Multi-plat no one would be talking about this right now. Plus this game has awhile to come out and fix up some minor flaws

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#41 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="LuvGaming"][QUOTE="furtherfan"]it looks great. the textures in the surroundings are low quality... bet it;s a PS3 game... kinda comes with the console.furtherfan

Yes because 360 never features any low quality textures............ Gears of War had some low quality textures also. Btw.... how about you wait until an HD version of the new MGS 4 trailer is released?

it looks great. the textures in the walls and ground don' look great.... that's just a f'ing FACT.

i'm buying this game too... it will be GREAT!. but Sony bought the wrong graphics card. it shows in almost every game.

 I don't quite agree with that statement.
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#42 dracolich666
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:lol: all the lemmings are now saying it looks bad now that it's been confirmed to be a ps3 exclusiveB1ACK_MAGE
Please dont let me post 1080p pics with HORRIBLE textures, a console with the most texture units still cant produce atleast 1024x1024 normal maps? Gears had HIGH RES normal maps, why cant the RSX do that? I guess having 50% more TMUs means nothing when the core is limited by Vertex shaders.
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#43 X_CAPCOM_X
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Download it on the PS Store. Its in HD, and its amazing.
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#44 B1ACK_MAGE
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[QUOTE="B1ACK_MAGE"]:lol: all the lemmings are now saying it looks bad now that it's been confirmed to be a ps3 exclusivedracolich666
Please dont let me post 1080p pics with HORRIBLE textures, a console with the most texture units still cant produce atleast 1024x1024 normal maps? Gears had HIGH RES normal maps, why cant the RSX do that? I guess having 50% more TMUs means nothing when the core is limited by Vertex shaders.


.....uhhh, I don't understand your tech speak.... all I know is that MGS4 looks really good, and that's all I care about
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#45 Dualshockin
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:lol: all the lemmings are now saying it looks bad now that it's been confirmed to be a ps3 exclusiveB1ACK_MAGE
They've been hit with too much ownage in the past day,when your biggest announcement is Bambi in HD you know your focus isn't right :lol:
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#46 CraigJK
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Download it on the PS Store. Its in HD, and its amazing.X_CAPCOM_X

That's the way to do it, It's hard to judge it on this small-ass computer screen of mine, i need to go watch it on my 32'.

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#47 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="B1ACK_MAGE"]:lol: all the lemmings are now saying it looks bad now that it's been confirmed to be a ps3 exclusivedracolich666
Please dont let me post 1080p pics with HORRIBLE textures, a console with the most texture units still cant produce atleast 1024x1024 normal maps? Gears had HIGH RES normal maps, why cant the RSX do that? I guess having 50% more TMUs means nothing when the core is limited by Vertex shaders.

So now we're comparing Pc games to Ps3 games :roll: ?
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#48 MickeyTheNinja
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[QUOTE="MickeyTheNinja"]Is it just me or was the voice acting THE WORST?! Halfway through it I couldnt stand to listen to it. Snake sounded like such an idiot. It's keeping me from getting it.blazinpuertoroc

WHAT THE HELL WERE SMOKING?!?! have you ever played MGS? wow

anyways it was NOT a downgrade? did you see how DETAILED meryl looked compared to the last trailer? not only that she actually looked hot...just look compare the hair she had from both trailers...huge upgrade on the little details...

Oh so in MGS games the voice acting sounds stupid? Snake was talking like an idiot.

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#49 furtherfan
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I don't quite agree with that statement.Dualshockin

this screen is blurry and gritty.....(video screencaps...)

listen, i'm not bashing the game. the proper screens show it better. i'm just realistic.

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#50 X_CAPCOM_X
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Download it on the PS Store. Its in HD, and its amazing.CraigJK

That's the way to do it, It's hard to judge it on this small-ass computer screen of mine, i need to go watch it on my 32'.

Yeah all of the E3 videos are on the PS Store in HD, and they all look great! Some of them are hidden in other sections for fun though... they want use to look around.