MGS4 has a niche market? I dont think so.

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#1 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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I try not to play sales, but for MGS4 I will, simply because this game was bashed and bashed into no other, saying it would not sell more than 3 million by some people, and it has a niche market.

Well, its sold around 3 million already, and it hasnt even gone thru one holiday season yet.

So how big is this Niche market?

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#2 -GhostMLD-
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first, it shipped 3 million.

second, it shipped as many as Halo 3 sold day 1 in NA alone.......in TWO weeks........WORLDWIDE.

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#3 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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Sony and Konami stated it sold 3 million already WW.
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#4 krp008
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It aint no Halo 3, but whatever
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#5 OsgoodSchlatter
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It aint no Halo 3, but whateverkrp008

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

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#6 BioShockOwnz
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It didn't top GTA IV or Halo 3, but still a good go for a niche game.
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#7 krp008
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[QUOTE="krp008"]It aint no Halo 3, but whateverOsgoodSchlatter

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

By gamespot's standards, which isnt saying much... And BTW, i was talking about sales and popularity

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#8 Blue-Sky
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A Niche market doesn't mean low sales.

In gaming, Niche franchises cater to a specific segment market or having specifc appeal to a certain type of group. I personally wouldn't caterogize MGS4 as a niche game, but I can agree that it lacks a broader audience beyond its fans.

i.e. Out of the 3 million, I'd bet that majority are returning fans, while titles like CoD4 or Halo 3 were able to gain new audience members.

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#9 OsgoodSchlatter
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[QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"]

[QUOTE="krp008"]It aint no Halo 3, but whateverkrp008

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

By gamespot's standards, which isnt saying much

And yet, here you are. Posting on their "substandard" forums about their "substandard" rating system. I wonder why that is?

It's okay, I don't expect an actual answer.

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#10 krp008
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[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"]

[QUOTE="krp008"]It aint no Halo 3, but whateverOsgoodSchlatter

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

By gamespot's standards, which isnt saying much

And yet, here you are. Posting on their "substandard" forums about their "substandard" rating system. I wonder why that is?

It's okay, I don't expect an actual answer.

What do the GS forums and the GS reviews have in common? Nothing really

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[QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"]

[QUOTE="krp008"]It aint no Halo 3, but whateverkrp008

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

By gamespot's standards, which isnt saying much

And yet, here you are. Posting on their "substandard" forums about their "substandard" rating system. I wonder why that is?

It's okay, I don't expect an actual answer.

What do the GS forums and the GS reviews have in common? Nothing really

you would think you would switch sites if you didn't like it.

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#14 gtawoof
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[QUOTE="Poster_11"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"]

[QUOTE="krp008"]It aint no Halo 3, but whateverkrp008

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

By gamespot's standards, which isnt saying much

And yet, here you are. Posting on their "substandard" forums about their "substandard" rating system. I wonder why that is?

It's okay, I don't expect an actual answer.

What do the GS forums and the GS reviews have in common? Nothing really

you would think you would switch sites if you didn't like it.

its just a site, its not my life. I rarely even get on the internet these days. I dont "live" on these boards like some people :roll:

2,452 posts says you're lying.

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Sony and Konami stated it sold 3 million already WW.kool-aids

Sold to retailers. The question is how many of those have actually been purchased by consumers?

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#16 TTDog
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[QUOTE="kool-aids"]Sony and Konami stated it sold 3 million already WW.ThePlothole

Sold to retailers. The question is how many of those have actually been purchased by consumers?

MAybe they're adding a copy to all the PS3's that seem to be overtaking the floor space in my local game store... according the Sony they've all been sold as well.

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#17 themyth01
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first, it shipped 3 million.

second, it shipped as many as Halo 3 sold day 1 in NA alone.......in TWO weeks........WORLDWIDE.

-GhostMLD-

QFT. Comparing MGS4 worldwide sales to Halo 3 NA sales shows how MGS4 is a hardcore game, now compare it to GTA4 and MGS4 looks smaller in market scale still.

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#18 meetroid8
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It didn't top GTA IV or Halo 3, but still a good go for a niche game.BioShockOwnz
3 million isn't a niche. :?
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#19 GundamGuy0
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It's still not a system seller, which was what the niche market arguemnt was mostly about...

everyone knew MGS could sell MGS2 told us that... but this game still isn't selling as well as it should, considering the hype and advertising.

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#20 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="krp008"]It aint no Halo 3, but whateverOsgoodSchlatter

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

He was obviously talking about sales. :|

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#21 Ninja-Hippo
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2,452 posts says you're lying.

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In two years? That's nothing.

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#22 Javy03
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first, it shipped 3 million.

second, it shipped as many as Halo 3 sold day 1 in NA alone.......in TWO weeks........WORLDWIDE.

-GhostMLD-

Very few games sell as well as Halo and a big part your neglecting is that Halo released closer to the 4th quater, you know the time when game sales and console sales are at their highest, while MGS4 launched during the summer, you know when game sales and console sales are at their lowest.

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#23 Lionheart08
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MGSIV only catered to a certain market so it wasn't really expected to reach the levels of Halo or GTA. Considering it was the final (at the time anyway) entry in a story driven franchise, it had zero appeal to new fans.
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#24 Javy03
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It's still not a system seller, which was what the niche market arguemnt was mostly about...

everyone knew MGS could sell MGS2 told us that... but this game still isn't selling as well as it should, considering the hype and advertising.

GundamGuy0

How is it not a system seller, in Japan alone the PS3 sold like 77K in one week when MGS 4 launched and 80GB PS3 bundles are hard to find. What makes you think its not a system seller, and how do you judge how much a game sales based on hype and advertising? DO you know how much it cost to advertise, it didnt flood the TV, and how do you measure hype vs. sales?

MGS4 sold very well and it hasnt even been a month. MGS games are the kind that have long legs. Aside from games that are multiplat and Halo, MGS4 has been a very fast and big seller.

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#25 rolo107
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[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="OsgoodSchlatter"]

[QUOTE="krp008"]It aint no Halo 3, but whateverOsgoodSchlatter

10 > 9.5

You're right, it's better.

By gamespot's standards, which isnt saying much

And yet, here you are. Posting on their "substandard" forums about their "substandard" rating system. I wonder why that is?

It's okay, I don't expect an actual answer.

About 50% of the people here think we should use a different site for our flop system... WTF U TALKIN BOUT?!

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#26 Mongo-Boss
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It has very little casual appeal so it has sold a very good amount. BTW I thought all game/console sales are counted by the amount sold to the retailer. There is no way any company can know how many have been sold to a consumer unless they asked every retailer on a daily/monthly basis. Correct me if I'm wrong though.