MGS4 has the best all around graphics this gen.

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#1 metalgear-solid
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As an answer to the Gears of War 2 topic.

MGS4 shines in every department, especially character models, which are still in a league of there own. Overall, MGS4 runs incredibly well at all times. The cutscenes-to-gameplay transitions are also impressive.

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#2 aaronmullan
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Gears 2 looks too "muddy" to me, it is just something about the Unreal Engine, though.

EDIT: BUT MGS4 is quite a nice looking game too :P

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#3 Animal-Mother
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As an answer to the Gears of War 2 topic.

MGS4 shines in every department, especially character models, which are still in a league of there own. Overall, MGS4 runs incredibly well at all times. The cutscenes-to-gameplay transitions are also impressive.

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#4 TheMistique
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i extremely disagree with you. i own a ps3 and pc. mgs4 is my number 1 favorite game of all time and i am just disappointed in the graphics. it's one of those console games i wish they would make for pc so i could turn the resolution, draw distance, and textures all way up.
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#5 Floppy_Jim
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It is nice looking but I don't agree it's the best. Killzone 2, Uncharted and RE5 all look better. Maybe I need to play it again though, I've only played it once.
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#6 Legendaryscmt
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

As an answer to the Gears of War 2 topic.

MGS4 shines in every department, especially character models, which are still in a league of there own. Overall, MGS4 runs incredibly well at all times. The cutscenes-to-gameplay transitions are also impressive.

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#7 mitu123
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The characters models are more impressive than the environments to me.

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#8 Nedemis
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Gears 2 looks too "muddy" to me, it is just something about the Unreal Engine, though.

EDIT: BUT MGS4 is quite a nice looking game too :P

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So Gears looking too muddy is a turn off for you, yet the overly brown look of MGS4 isn't a turn off? Hmmm....double standards me think?
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#9 DBhova23
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I think "overall" its the 2nd best to KZ2. MGS4 does have the best character models to me.
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#10 lancer_87
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hmm MGS4 is great ,better than Gears 2.Even Gears 1 on a decent PC looks better than Gears 2.But the real kings are Killzone 2,Crysis and Uncharted.

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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

As an answer to the Gears of War 2 topic.

MGS4 shines in every department, especially character models, which are still in a league of there own. Overall, MGS4 runs incredibly well at all times. The cutscenes-to-gameplay transitions are also impressive.

Ya know, if you want to answer a question regarding another topic, it's best to do it in that topic

Agreed, respond to that threat inside of the thread, not by making another one.

^^^ this I don't know why people think what they have to say is so much more important than everyoneelse that they have to make a new thread about it. When you compare MGS to some PC games your thread title is laughable.
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#12 iam2green
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i agree but crysis looks better. i think metal gear is the best looking on consoles. gears of war 2 doesn't look that great for comparing. i just think that everything looks wet, where there are things that aren't suppose to be wet.
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#13 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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No it doesn't. Did I go back in time to December '08?

Banjo: N&B, RE5, Uncharted, and Gears of War 2 all look better.

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#14 slvrraven9
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it definatly had the best story this gen but i dont know about graphics. they were definatly great but im sure ive seen better from games like uncharted and killzone. i definatly think its in the top 5 though
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#15 PBSnipes
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Obligatory Crysis>all statement.

And I disagree, MGS4's environments are really bland looking. Best "all around" graphics this gen are Crysis, or if console only, Killzone 2.

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#16 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

Gears 2 looks too "muddy" to me, it is just something about the Unreal Engine, though.

EDIT: BUT MGS4 is quite a nice looking game too :P

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So Gears looking too muddy is a turn off for you, yet the overly brown look of MGS4 isn't a turn off? Hmmm....double standards me think?

It's not the fact of the many, many shades of brown both games use. It is the fact that some of the textures in Gears 2 are literrally muddy, plus they have an unnatural shine to them.
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#17 onewiththegame
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MGS is an amazing game and the character models are great, but I dont think it has the overall best graphics

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#18 mynameisdigo
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Just played Uncharted and I have to say that it looks better than anything. I mean anything this gen.

Just because it's GREENISH and BRIGHTISH and not GREY-BROWNISH.

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#19 obamanian
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As an answer to the Gears of War 2 topic.

MGS4 shines in every department, especially character models, which are still in a league of there own. Overall, MGS4 runs incredibly well at all times. The cutscenes-to-gameplay transitions are also impressive.

metalgear-solid

MGS4 has hands down the worst in game visuals i have seen, in fact it is so empty in some levels, that there is nothing really there to judge the game by anyway

Here it is, at its full sub-HD glory, one of the very worst looking titles this generation for me easilly

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MGS4 has hands down the worst in game visuals i have seen, in fact it is so empty in some levels, that there is nothing really there to judge the game by anyway

Here it is, at its full sub-HD glory, one of the very worst looking titles this generation for me easilly.

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#21 angelkimne
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I think MGS 4 looks great, but not console graphics king great.
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#22 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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As an answer to the Gears of War 2 topicmetalgear-solid
If you wanted to answer another thread, why didn't you do it in that thread ?
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#23 metalgear-solid
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It is nice looking but I don't agree it's the best. Killzone 2, Uncharted and RE5 all look better. Maybe I need to play it again though, I've only played it once.Floppy_Jim
Play it again then.

KZ2 probably looks better, but it was released more like a year later. RE5 no, in my opinion.

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I found MGS4's artstyle incredibly lackluster. The environments just seemed very dull and boring. Best graphics? I love me some hot graphics, but this game didn't do much to impress me.

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#25 -Snooze-
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Lol @ best character models.

Have you played Mass Effect?

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#26 ToScA-
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Gears 2, Mass Effect and Killzone 2 all look better to me.
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#27 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

MGS4 has hands down the worst in game visuals i have seen, in fact it is so empty in some levels, that there is nothing really there to judge the game by anyway

Here it is, at its full sub-HD glory, one of the very worst looking titles this generation for me easilly.

Aljosa23

We don't judge games based on what you think.

And what he thinks can be pretty out there, Remeber his Fable II has better lighting than KZ2 thread? And then his comments on multiple occasions that both STALKER; Clear Sky ans STALKER; SoC had "PS1 level graphics" and that Fable 2 looked better in every way? :lol: Man, the things this guy says.
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#28 Martin_G_N
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Lol @ best character models.

Have you played Mass Effect?

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Haha, Mass Effect..LOL. I have heard so much about this. I tested it out on my PC and had to double check to make sure that everything was on max setting....and to my surprise it was. Those caracter models are'nt that good, I can list a ton of games that has better character models, and MGS4 is one of them.
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#29 Mckenna1845
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i know it's a cliche but crysis i think technically blows everything else away. For artistic or good design i'd say mario galaxy wins. mgs4 is very impressive graphically and for me one of the best, the transition from cutscenes to gameplay, and the general polish in that game is amazing.
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#30 MortalDecay
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I gotta say RE5 looks way better than MGS4, in just about every way.
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#31 jg4xchamp
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Crysis=Still best looking game this gen on a technical level....by miles.
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Crysis=Still best looking game this gen on a technical level....by miles. jg4xchamp
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I disagree,especially knowing that is less than 720p and has horrible texture work without MSAA.
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#34 AdoringFan_
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As much as I love MGS4 Op, but its definitely not the graphics king this gen. IMO its Uncharted, then it'll be Uncharted (100% of the PS3!)

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it may have thebest character models, but the environments arent anywhere near the best.

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#36 -RTS-
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Uncharted looks better imo.

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#37 obamanian
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MGS4 does indeed destroy Crysis, i 100$ agree with the TC, i mean look at the below pics

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^Why do you keep using the same 2 screenshots of MGS4?
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Probably not anymore but the tech behind MGS4 is still the best in my opinion. I'm not talking about textures or anything like that, but the fact that cinemas play out using the in-game engine and can transition directly into gameplay without any pause is really impressive. And the ways you can manipulate the camera in cutscenes was also a stroke of genius. Hope to see more games use this engine.

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#40 obamanian
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^Why do you keep using the same 2 screenshots of MGS4?Floppy_Jim

It is the only areas that are not 10 feet wide, that is tiny like coriddors

Well, essentially they are bigger coriddors, but it has a feeling of open, even though mountains are all around in close distance

Anyway, that is the open areas of MGS4, its biggest part, what pics would i post, the paths in cities ?

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#41 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

As an answer to the Gears of War 2 topic.

MGS4 shines in every department, especially character models, which are still in a league of there own. Overall, MGS4 runs incredibly well at all times. The cutscenes-to-gameplay transitions are also impressive.

First off, I love MGS, all of them. I don't agree on the graphics part. Textures don't look real to me and the human hair...it doesn't move.
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#42 obamanian
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Probably not anymore but the tech behind MGS4 is still the best in my opinion. I'm not talking about textures or anything like that, but the fact that cinemas play out using the in-game engine and can transition directly into gameplay without any pause is really impressive. And the ways you can manipulate the camera in cutscenes was also a stroke of genius. Hope to see more games use this engine.

Archaic8

Well, panning and zooming a bit in a cut-scene is the single most worthless thing i have come across in gaming, and really easy to put too, it is not like you can rotate the camera or anything, i would add the same pan and zoom in a 2D video or image the same way, it is rather the mostg minor thing i can think of ever

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#43 -Traveller-
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^^^

Character models are some of the best this gen.

Some of the envirnoments are rather bland though.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]^Why do you keep using the same 2 screenshots of MGS4?obamanian

It is the only areas that are not 10 feet wide, that is tiny like coriddors

Well, essentially they are bigger coriddors, but it has a feeling of open, even though mountains are all around in close distance

Anyway, that is the open areas of MGS4, its biggest part, what pics would i post, the paths in cities ?

why do you need an open area to show its "bad" graphics?

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Uncharted 2/KZ 2/GEARS 2/RE 5 all looks better lol MGS4 is not even full 720p but faces does look good other than that its nothing special
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#46 JunkTrap
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Those snapshots of crysis may look incredible, but it's that TOD mod, you can't really play the game while having that enabled from what I've been reading, so I can care less. Aside from that, I also agree with the TC. MGS 4 looks the best all around. KZ doesn't have a whole lot of variety in visuals even though the technical aspect is superb. Now, I just wonder how MGS would look without that tint it always seems to have whether it's grey or green. Character models still looks like rubber. RE5 has better character models.
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#47 Archaic8
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[QUOTE="Archaic8"]

Probably not anymore but the tech behind MGS4 is still the best in my opinion. I'm not talking about textures or anything like that, but the fact that cinemas play out using the in-game engine and can transition directly into gameplay without any pause is really impressive. And the ways you can manipulate the camera in cutscenes was also a stroke of genius. Hope to see more games use this engine.

obamanian

Well, panning and zooming a bit in a cut-scene is the single most worthless thing i have come across in gaming, and really easy to put too, it is not like you can rotate the camera or anything, i would add the same pan and zoom in a 2D video or image the same way, it is rather the mostg minor thing i can think of ever

Giving you total control over the camera would make a mess of things during the cinemas but they could do it. In the Mission Briefings before each act you can take full control over the camera with the MK.II while a cutscene plays out. And don't try and downplay that feature as being easy to do or not being that impressive.

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Those snapshots of crysis may look incredible, but it's that TOD mod, you can't really play the game while having that enabled from what I've been reading, so I can care less. Aside from that, I also agree with the TC. MGS 4 looks the best all around. KZ doesn't have a whole lot of variety in visuals even though the technical aspect is superb. Now, I just wonder how MGS would look without that tint it always seems to have whether it's grey or green. Character models still looks like rubber. RE5 has better character models.JunkTrap
Crysis without the TOD mod looks better than MGS4.
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#49 MJPK
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Those two screenshots of MGS4 are horrible.It looks 10 times better on my tv.Anyway MGS4 graphics are brilliant but nowhere near as good as Crysis.

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#50 Fizzman
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it was proven MGSIV runs at sub hd resolution so i think its safe to say you are wrong.