MGS4 Looks Better than MGSV:GZ

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#1 Gue1
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people have been bombarding Kojima on twitter saying that the PS3 version of MGSV:GZ looks worse than MGS4 to what he responded:

it’s nonsense to make a comparison between Metal Gear Solid 4 and Ground Zeroes since GZ is an open world game.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/17/kojima-comments-on-criticism-on-metal-gear-solid-vs-screenshot-comparison-comparing-with-mgs4-is-nonsense/

But let's be realistic here, the reason GZ looks worse than MGS4 it's because the game's not an exclusive and resources are being spread thin. Too many versions, too many consoles, too much work for such an ambitious game.

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#2 Xaero_Gravity
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Yuck, the last gen versions are disgustingly blurry.

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#3 silversix_
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Oh man i remember playing MGS4 in 09 asking myself if textures were supposed to be unlocked after i've beaten the game lol

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#4 cooolio
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I do not know what they are looking at. Then again, I do not know much about graphics and visuals. However, I played MGS4 and I do not see where they are coming from.

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#5  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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Those people need to go back and play MGS4. The lighting and textures in that game are dead give aways that it was an early gen game.

MGS4 also had a terrible framerate and ran at a resolution slightly below 720p. Ground Zeroes looks a lot better overall.

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#6 MikeMoose
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Did anyone really expect GZ to be a big improvement over MGS4 on the PS3 or Xbox 360? That last gen hardware peaked graphically years ago.

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#7  Edited By lundy86_4
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Pretty damn different in terms of scale. MGS4 had good character models, but environments were pretty weak.

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#8 DR_CANCER_SNK
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MGS5 may not look the best...

however its WAY BETTER THEN MGS4

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#9 Netret0120
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People are being silly. MGS5 is MEANT to be played on the PS4. At least people have the option of playing it on old consoles if they want.

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#10 EZs
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@Netret0120 said:

People are being silly. MGS5 is MEANT to be played on the PS4. At least people have the option of playing it on old consoles if they want.

Yeah they need to STFU and get a PS4 already.

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All versions of mg5 look like shit

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#12 Salt_The_Fries
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@ShepardCommandr said:

All versions of mg5 look like shit

Seconded.

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#13 GrenadeLauncher
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No shit, the last gen versions look iffy. They should be getting the superior current-gen versions on the PS4 and the Xb-oh wait.

They should be getting the superior current-gen version on the PS4.

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@ShepardCommandr said:

All versions of mg5 look like shit

Seconded.

Salty as ****

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#14 Salt_The_Fries
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

No shit, the last gen versions look iffy. They should be getting the superior current-gen versions on the PS4 and the Xb-oh wait.

They should be getting the superior current-gen version on the PS4.

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@ShepardCommandr said:

All versions of mg5 look like shit

Seconded.

Salty as ****

Can you actually say something meaningful or does your primitive brain not have a capacity for actual conversations and has to churn out memes?

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#15 kalipekona
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Nonsense. Ground Zeroes may not look amazing on the PS3 and 360 but it still looks a lot better than MGS4, which isn't that impressive to begin with.

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#16  Edited By UnbiasedPoster
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He should have stayed exclusive to Sony. His lack of loyalty will be the death of Konami.

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#17  Edited By remiks00
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So many whiney ass gamers these days. Did I spell that right? lol :P

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#18 Shielder7
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Who cares it's just a glorified demo anyway.

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#19 Gaming-Planet
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It's because they were optimized for this gen, they took a shortcut and just lowered the visuals with what they already had.

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#20 HalcyonScarlet
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lol this is what I'm saying. The difference between this gen and last gen seem to be in degrees of texture quality.

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#21  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@ShepardCommandr said:

All versions of mg5 look like shit

Seconded.

Thirded

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#22 Salt_The_Fries
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

lol this is what I'm saying. The difference between this gen and last gen seem to be in degrees of texture quality.

Hardly impressive considering consoles now have SIXTEEN TIMES the ram their counterparts had last gen. Am I right or am I right?

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#23 HalcyonScarlet
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

lol this is what I'm saying. The difference between this gen and last gen seem to be in degrees of texture quality.

Hardly impressive considering consoles now have SIXTEEN TIMES the ram their counterparts had last gen. Am I right or am I right?

Exactly, that's why I'm disappoint with this gen after 8 years of the last, this doesn't seem good enough and I haven't seen anything on any current gen console that really impresses me.

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#25  Edited By HaloinventedFPS
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MGS4 had pretty open levels as well

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#26  Edited By deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@Gue1 said:

people have been bombarding Kojima on twitter saying that the PS3 version of MGSV:GZ looks worse than MGS4 to what he responded:

it’s nonsense to make a comparison between Metal Gear Solid 4 and Ground Zeroes since GZ is an open world game.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/17/kojima-comments-on-criticism-on-metal-gear-solid-vs-screenshot-comparison-comparing-with-mgs4-is-nonsense/

But let's be realistic here, the reason GZ looks worse than MGS4 it's because the game's not an exclusive and resources are being spread thin. Too many versions, too many consoles, too much work for such an ambitious game.

To my knowledge, as I remember reading and watching Kojima and team make a big stink about it, the Fox Engine scales between platforms in an extremely efficient fashion. I don't think the game being on more than one platform factors in that much. More realistically, I'd say that the MGS games are in production so long that the art team may start with X texture, and by the time the code is evolved closer to release day, Y texture my be of much higher quality than X, but budgets may not make sense to go back and change the former.

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#27 speedfog
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MGS4 looked like crap. Blurryfest