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#1 im_different
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/exclusives/mgs4-needs-to-sell-over-a-million-on-day-one-328082.php

sony just even released a press statement or "pre damage control"

"We understand publishers are needing to recoup their investment," said Peter Dille, senior vice president of marketing for Sony. "From our perspective, as long as the games aren't going exclusive to other platforms, PS3 gamers are not actually losing anything."

make of it what you will but if sony is already saying stuff like this and the game developers have set a basically impossible goal for the mgs4 first day sales and if it doesnt meet this million on first day "they wont make money". sounds like multiplat confirmed? this press statement really confirms it.

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#2 sam280992
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It won't come to the Xbox 360, just give it up

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#3 speedjunkie1992
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I lol at lems who are gettin their hopes up about this going multi-plat. I can't see them not selling 1 million on day 1.
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#4 im_different
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It won't come to the Xbox 360, just give it up

sam280992

did you even read the link? its looking very likely atm.

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#5 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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i'd buy it if it came to 360, but since i never played 1,2,or 3 on ps1,2 i would probably be pretty lost. might make system wars interesting tho
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#6 Wasdie  Moderator
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Nowhere in that did they ever say a 360 version is planned or even in development.

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#7 raynimrod
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Wow, there's no official referrence or link to Sony saying that at all, and why did you link to kotaku instead of Reuters?Also the site called it Metal Gear Solid 4: Sons of liberty. This article fails. It's not going multiplat.
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MGS 4 producer: If you want to play the game buy a PS3
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#9 im_different
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I lol at lems who are gettin their hopes up about this going multi-plat. I can't see them not selling 1 million on day 1.speedjunkie1992

mario galaxy sold like 700k worldwide in its first WEEK. and thats from nintendo. metal gear solid has never sold over 1 mil on day 1 so whats going to change that now? smaller install base? spring release?

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#10 im_different
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Wow, there's no official referrence or link to Sony saying that at all.... And the site called it Metal Gear Solid 4: Sons of liberty. This article fails.raynimrod

read the part in yellow "said Peter Dille, senior vice president of marketing for Sony."

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#11 ReverseCycology
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Yep. Like the link says, if MGS4 doesn't sell a million on day one that could be the last PS3 exclusive. It cost so much to develop these exclusive games and knowing that you can't recoup and profit from the PS3 I think the right move is to head over to the 360 and get your money. So yep, MGS4 and any other exclusive game listed after that has a great chance to going multiplat. Don't Just Wait, Jump In.

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#12 krunkfu2
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what is this the third time this rumor has popped up?
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MGS 4 producer: If you want to play the game buy a PS3 Tnasty11

^^^^Read

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#14 speedjunkie1992
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[QUOTE="speedjunkie1992"]I lol at lems who are gettin their hopes up about this going multi-plat. I can't see them not selling 1 million on day 1.im_different

mario galaxy sold like 700k worldwide in its first WEEK. and thats from nintendo. metal gear solid has never sold over 1 mil on day 1 so whats going to change that now? smaller install base? spring release?

Maybe because they had different release dates.

Release Date:
US: November 12, 2007
Japan: November 1, 2007
Europe: November 16, 2007
Australia: November 29, 2007

Get your facts right next time, MGS4 is gonna be a worldwide release for day 1.

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#15 PhoebusFlows
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I don't think it will go to 360, but then, I also didn't think Gears of War would ever go to PC and it did. So you really never know, but I think it's like a 90% chance MGS4 is not going anywhere.
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#16 krunkfu2
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Yep. Like the link says, if MGS4 doesn't sell a million on day one that could be the last PS3 exclusive. It cost so much to develop these exclusive games and knowing that you can't recoup and profit from the PS3 I think the right move is to head over to the 360 and get your money. So yep, MGS4 and any other exclusive game listed after that has a great chance to going multiplat. Don't Just Wait, Jump In.

ReverseCycology

If anything MGS4 will probably sell less on the 360

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MGS 4 producer: If you want to play the game buy a PS3 Tnasty11

/Thread.

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#18 nicenator
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Yep, because the MGS series has a massive success rate so far on the xbox consoles hasn't it?

With the 360 bombing in japan, my bet is if they were going to port it anywhere, they'd dumb it down a bit and put it on the wii. Guaranteed to make money.

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#19 Tacho101
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jebus...how many times has this puppy been put down? by like everyone except fanboys who still hold out for the port, & if i read it corectly, it didnt say anything about a port really, further speculation that really amounts to nothing without solid evidence....
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#20 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]MGS 4 producer: If you want to play the game buy a PS3 hailltoyou

^^^^Read

judging by your sig and avatar, yohave blinders on.

it simply would not be sensible for konami to release a huge budget game exclusively on the system with the smallest install base. i'm not saying it'll be on 360 day one, but it will be on it

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#21 cleotis_max
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Were still debating this? Jeez.. Lemmings gloat about how the 360 has so many great games and a huge library but won't give up on MGS4? If it goes Multiplat, thats fine. I just wanted LBP anyway.

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#22 Funkyhamster
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It won't come to the Xbox 360, just give it up

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Dude, Sony fricking had a press release about how losing exclusivity of games isn't necessarily a bad thing. That's the biggest hint possible...

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#23 Paddy345
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Lemmings really do make an as* out of themselves with threads like these, it was stated before by kojima it was exlcusive and later stated if you want mgs4 you will have to get ps3, you can only make threads like these if it's confirmed cause you will just get owned in the end. I'm not saying it's never coming but you will get owned if it hasen't been confirmed and has been stated before it isn't going to. You want mgs4 BUY A PS3!
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#24 im_different
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]MGS 4 producer: If you want to play the game buy a PS3 Harden_hawk

/Thread.

read after the "but" dont just stop after the first paragraph.

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#25 kevy619
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I still want the ps3 version, and I want it on day one.
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#26 Asad197
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If halo3 can sell 2.5 million in its first day then why cant mgs4 sell 1 million on its first day?. mgs is much famous game then some people think
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#27 ReverseCycology
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Yep. Like the link says, if MGS4 doesn't sell a million on day one that could be the last PS3 exclusive. It cost so much to develop these exclusive games and knowing that you can't recoup and profit from the PS3 I think the right move is to head over to the 360 and get your money. So yep, MGS4 and any other exclusive game listed after that has a great chance to going multiplat. Don't Just Wait, Jump In.

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If anything MGS4 will probably sell less on the 360

Lol. Where have you been? Every multiplat game sold more on the 360 than on the PS3, plus most of the 360 versions scored better than the PS3. Anyway, this is a lose lose situation for Sony. I mean Metal Gear was never been a system seller and the rate of PS3 owners buying games are redonkalous. I don't know why they aren't buying Sony exclusive games like hot cakes. Anyway, Konami would make more money on the 360, bigger installed base already. Dead Rising and Lost Planet already sold millions, time to take that MGS4 over and get your money back and then some.

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#28 Hitamaru-homia
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umm err? LOL WUT?
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#29 im_different
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and how is this sony press release statement being "overlooked". he basically said "we will lose exclusives but it wont matter". and yes were talking about mgs4 and the possibility of it going multi because cows are saying it is THE BIG exclusive. losing it could potentially end the console war so no something like this wont just slide.
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"We're telling our fans that if you want to play 'Metal Gear Solid 4', you have to buy a PS3," said Ryan Payton, the assistant producer of the game.

"The PlayStation brand has always been good to us, and we're pretty bullish on the PS3."

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSLAU93973120071129?sp=true

well there you have

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#31 SolidSnake35
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I'd love to know your definition of the word confirmed.
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#32 kevy619
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If halo3 can sell 2.5 million in its first day then why cant mgs4 sell 1 million on its first day?. mgs is much famousgame then some people thinkAsad197

Sony better start marketing the hell out of the game, so everyone has to have the game on day one.

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#33 Hitamaru-homia
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[QUOTE="krunkfu2"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Yep. Like the link says, if MGS4 doesn't sell a million on day one that could be the last PS3 exclusive. It cost so much to develop these exclusive games and knowing that you can't recoup and profit from the PS3 I think the right move is to head over to the 360 and get your money. So yep, MGS4 and any other exclusive game listed after that has a great chance to going multiplat. Don't Just Wait, Jump In.

ReverseCycology

If anything MGS4 will probably sell less on the 360

Lol. Where have you been? Every multiplat game sold more on the 360 than on the PS3, plus most of the 360 versions scored better than the PS3. Anyway, this is a lose lose situation for Sony. I mean Metal Gear was never been a system seller and the rate of PS3 owners buying games are redonkalous. I don't know why they aren't buying Sony exclusive games like hot cakes. Anyway, Konami would make more money on the 360, bigger installed base already. Dead Rising and Lost Planet already sold millions, time to take that MGS4 over and get your money back and then some.

Ummm err lol what so every games on 360 has sold? O RLY... lets go home children.i'll walk you acrossed the street. Lost planet only sold millions cause it was on pc too xD

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[QUOTE="hailltoyou"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]MGS 4 producer: If you want to play the game buy a PS3 Awinagainov

^^^^Read

judging by your sig and avatar, yohave blinders on.

it simply would not be sensible for konami to release a huge budget game exclusively on the system with the smallest install base. i'm not saying it'll be on 360 day one, but it will be on it

Like MGS2 was , only after a year you got spin-of and I'm not talking about MGS3.

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The Xbox360 will be on the MGS4. I'm positive it will happen.
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"We're telling our fans that if you want to play 'Metal Gear Solid 4', you have to buy a PS3," said Ryan Payton, the assistant producer of the game.

"The PlayStation brand has always been good to us, and we're pretty bullish on the PS3."

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSLAU93973120071129?sp=true

well there you have

Tnasty11

read after the "but" it goes along the lines of

But soaring production costs mean it's tougher for third-party games to turn a profit if they are limited to just one console. That's especially true for the PS3, sales of which have lagged those of the Xbox 360 and Wii.

Sony said it has been preparing for the demise of third-party exclusives for a long time.

"We understand publishers are needing to recoup their investment," said Peter Dille, senior vice president of marketing for Sony. "From our perspective, as long as the games aren't going exclusive to other platforms, PS3 gamers are not actually losing anything."

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#37 nicenator
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To be honest, im finding this amusing. Lemmings go on and on about how much sony lie and how they're full of cr*p, but as soon and they say something that may benefit the 360, they hang on their every word.

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#39 -Anton-
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This is getting pretty pathetic.

And yes i read the article, it mensions nothing about mgs4 going multiplat, only that it needs to sell 1 million on the first day to cover costs, and that in the future (after MGS4) there might not be any 3rd party exclusives. Hence MGS4, the last great EXCLUSIVE.

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#40 im_different
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To be honest, im finding this amusing. Lemmings go on and on about how much sony lie and how they're full of cr*p, but as soon and they say something that may benefit the 360, they hang on their every word.

nicenator

thats cause they just said something that HURTStheir console. kind of like it was a big deal when ms admitted to the rrod. ill qoute it one more time. remember this is sony SAYING THEY ARE EXPECTING TO LOSE EXCLUSIVES IN RESPONSE TO MGS4'S EXCLUSITIVITY.

"We understand publishers are needing to recoup their investment," said Peter Dille, senior vice president of marketing for Sony. "From our perspective, as long as the games aren't going exclusive to other platforms, PS3 gamers are not actually losing anything."

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#41 ProductNumber49
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Don't care about some old guy grabbing someone's nuts and looking at porn mags in the midle of a warzone filled with random mechanical tentacles

gimme splinter cell

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#42 biggamerhk
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wow, lems really need to stop making these threads. the game isnt coming to your precious system, so please just give it up.
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#43 kevy619
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wow, lems really need to stop making these threads. the game isnt coming to your precious system, so please just give it up.biggamerhk

If it was the other way around, there would 10x the amount of threads.

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Keep the dream alive :D
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#45 OmegaTau
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world wide it will

not like only 1 million ps3 owners out there.

any who if you want mgs4 you have to get a ps3.

dont it seem that when MS entered the race gaming went to hell.

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[QUOTE="Harden_hawk"]

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]MGS 4 producer: If you want to play the game buy a PS3 im_different

/Thread.

read after the "but" dont just stop after the first paragraph.

The 360 couldn't run it.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/port-update/mgs4-still-being-built-on-ps3-hardware-261471.php?cpage=2

The game is made on ps3 hardware, and it's made totake advantage ofthe blu-ray disk.

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I didn't read the article, so I am not sure if they addressed this or not, but WHY would it need to sell 1 million on day 1 just to make money? Wouldn't selling a million over a week STILL be a million sold? WTF?

The game doesn't have to break records, it just has to sell a lot.

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#48 im_different
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i give up. you people really cant come up with logical arguements besides "zomg noob it wont happenz!". just ask yourself this then. ignore the part about mgs4 and focus on part about sony expecting to lose third party exclusives but arent to concerned. what exclusives could they be talking about? final fantasy? somethings happening.

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I didn't read the article, so I am not sure if they addressed this or not, but WHY would it need to sell 1 million on day 1 just to make money? Wouldn't selling a million over a week STILL be a million sold? WTF?

The game doesn't have to break records, it just has to sell a lot.

Bgrngod

You got me. And even if it did, if it stop selling the very next day, that would generally be bad, while if you sell 1 million a week for 2 weeks, you've sold more... Sounds a lot like one of the Sony execs mouthing off about stuff he hasn't a clue about again.

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#50 DeathSquirrel
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I didn't read the article, so I am not sure if they addressed this or not, but WHY would it need to sell 1 million on day 1 just to make money? Wouldn't selling a million over a week STILL be a million sold? WTF?

The game doesn't have to break records, it just has to sell a lotBgrngod

There is a general pattern to how media sells over time. I don't know what it is but then I'm not paid too while the guy who was quoted is. He's saying that, based on how game sales typicall diminish over time they would need opening day totals over a million units in order to be profitable over the expected sales life of the product.