MGS4 : That game cost more than 5 times ...

MGS:SE who sold about 3,4 millions.

How will Konami explain those atrocious numbers for their fiscal year ?

Revenues can be somewhat the same but profits will take a huge drop, thanks to Sony !

Link?reyad-u

What ? That doesn't make any sense ?

[QUOTE="reyad-u"]Link?norfliver_basic

What ? That doesn't make any sense ?

It means post a weblink to prove your statements as fact.

MGS:SE who sold about 3,4 millions.

How will Konami explain those atrocious numbers for their fiscal year ?

Revenues can be somewhat the same but profits will take a huge drop, thanks to Sony !

norfliver_basic

Sales of MGS4 have almost matched sales of MGS3 in two weeks and on a system with a MUCH smaller user base at the time of the game's release.

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

[QUOTE="reyad-u"]Link?norfliver_basic

What ? That doesn't make any sense ?

Post the link from where you got your information.

MGS:SE who sold about 3,4 millions.

How will Konami explain those atrocious numbers for their fiscal year ?

Revenues can be somewhat the same but profits will take a huge drop, thanks to Sony !

norfliver_basic

[QUOTE="reyad-u"]Link?norfliver_basic

What ? That doesn't make any sense ?

Where is the proof to back up your statement? provide me/us with a link to prove everything you have just said.

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Now, let's say that MGS4 sold 2 millions (to date), and is up to sell 3,4 millions, it still won't help Konami because they won't have the same profits as the last one (MGS3) and their fiscal year !

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Now, let's say that MGS4 sold 2 millions (to date), and is up to sell 3,4 millions, it still won't help Konami because they won't have the same profits as the last one (MGS3) and their fiscal year !

norfliver_basic

You're saying the game sold an extra 115,000 from the 20th to 29th?

That aside, who is to say the game will no longer sell? I'm pretty sure that game will continue to sell reasonably well for quite some time.

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

ermacness

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

[QUOTE="norfliver_basic"]

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Now, let's say that MGS4 sold 2 millions (to date), and is up to sell 3,4 millions, it still won't help Konami because they won't have the same profits as the last one (MGS3) and their fiscal year !

reyad-u

You're saying the game sold an extra 115,000 from the 20th to 29th?

That aside, who is to say the game will no longer sell? I'm pretty sure that game will continue to sell reasonably well for quite some time.

Yes, lets say until 3,4 millions... for a game that cost 5 times more...

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

You wern't here to know what Cows said about MGS2 and 3.

And wasn't MGS3 exclusive :lol::lol:

[QUOTE="reyad-u"][QUOTE="norfliver_basic"]

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Now, let's say that MGS4 sold 2 millions (to date), and is up to sell 3,4 millions, it still won't help Konami because they won't have the same profits as the last one (MGS3) and their fiscal year !

norfliver_basic

You're saying the game sold an extra 115,000 from the 20th to 29th?

That aside, who is to say the game will no longer sell? I'm pretty sure that game will continue to sell reasonably well for quite some time.

Yes, lets say until 3,4 millions... for a game that cost 5 times more...

Link 1

Link 2

I'm pretty sure they made a healthy profit by now. And if they were to sell 3.4 million, which I'm pretty sure they will, they've just 3 times what they put in.

You don't think 3/4 million copies sold is a lot? :|

3 or 4 million copies sold is a ton.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

And MGS2 sold like crap on xbox, thats why they didnt port MGS3 because it doesnt appeal to xbox fans.

Sony also seems to be handling a lot of the marketing themselves taking a load off of Konami and are buying copies of the game to put in their bundles which gives Konami a lot of money up front and helps promote MGS4 (and their platform) more than it would get otherwise.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

[QUOTE="norfliver_basic"]

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php

Now, let's say that MGS4 sold 2 millions (to date), and is up to sell 3,4 millions, it still won't help Konami because they won't have the same profits as the last one (MGS3) and their fiscal year !

reyad-u

You're saying the game sold an extra 115,000 from the 20th to 29th?

That aside, who is to say the game will no longer sell? I'm pretty sure that game will continue to sell reasonably well for quite some time.

why? its a game with a rabid cult following. the zealots could not wait more then a week. in order for this game to have sustained sales it would have to somehow appeal to regular gamers and being that its pretty much catered to die-hard fans of a niche series I really doubt it.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

MGS3 was exclusive? It doesn't even matter -- MGS2 sold horriby on the xbox and since when was PC involved?

Sure it may have cost a lot, but selling so well in just two weeks time; by the end of Summer it will have surpassed 3 and by the end of this gen, who knows how strong its sales may be. I still doubt it being ported to anything, especially because of series history on the Xbox :?

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

kage_53

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

Well TBH MGS3 was the weakest of all the mgs games so who's to say MS would have wanted it on their console.XBOX owners wouldn't have thats for sure.

[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

Well TBH MGS3 was the weakest of all the mgs games so who's to say MS would have wanted it on their console.XBOX owners wouldn't have thats for sure.

shut up

your making lems look bad

Gabe got pwned , lol.

:lol: Cows are getting so defensive. Could be their nerves?

[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

Well TBH MGS3 was the weakest of all the mgs games so who's to say MS would have wanted it on their console.XBOX owners wouldn't have thats for sure.

Quite alot of people consider MGS3 the best out of the series.

[QUOTE="norfliver_basic"]

MGS:SE who sold about 3,4 millions.

How will Konami explain those atrocious numbers for their fiscal year ?

Revenues can be somewhat the same but profits will take a huge drop, thanks to Sony !

CJL182

Sales of MGS4 have almost matched sales of MGS3 in two weeks and on a system with a MUCH smaller user base at the time of the game's release.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

ermacness

When did they say that? :? |I'm pretty sure you cant break even on just 1 million sales.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

MGS3 isin't on any console but the PS2. :|

And to put it on the 360, Kojima productions would have to removie alot of material.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

ChrnoTrigger

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

MGS3 isin't on any console but the PS2. :|

And to put it on the 360, Kojima productions would have to removie alot of material.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Thats what cows said about MGS2 and 3.You just keep telling yourself that.

MGS3:snake eater and MGS3:Subsistence were exclusive to the PS2, but nice try tho LMAO

BTW xbox exclusives?? Nope!! since they usually end up on the pc anywayz(halo:CE, Halo2, GeoW, fable, jade empire, ME and more to come) and we can safely say a PC is more realiable than the 360. LOL

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

Ninja-Hippo

When did they say that? :? |I'm pretty sure you cant break even on just 1 million sales.

there you go

:lol: Cows are getting so defensive. Could be their nerves?

NiTiZ

soo..? I bought the game and love it and thats all that matters to me...

[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

Ninja-Hippo

When did they say that? :? |I'm pretty sure you cant break even on just 1 million sales.

How much do you think MGS4 cost to make? 200 million? 1 million X $60=60,000,000...and I did not even mention the LE sales.

3-4 million sold in a few weeks on a system that has like... 10 million hunits sold?

That kind of attach rate aws almost unheard of last gen.

MGS3 sold 3+ million on a system that sold 100 million units or so.

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Tell me is 8.5 a bigger number than 50?

well if you arrived at NO as your answer you also have the answer to: is MGS4 going to be on the 360?

You don't think 3/4 million copies sold is a lot? :|

3 or 4 million copies sold is a ton.

Not-A-Stalker

We are in SW. 4 million is nothing here. Easpecially to anti-gaming fanboys.

How much do you think MGS4 cost to make? 200 million? 1 million X $60=60,000,000...and I did not even mention the LE sales.

Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

How much do you think MGS4 cost to make? 200 million? 1 million X $60=60,000,000...and I did not even mention the LE sales.

Exeed_Orbit

does it matter how much the devs got im pretty sure the pros know more than you and i dont think there going to post a loss with 3/4 million copies sold and have to port to 360 and pc

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

Kahuna_1

When did they say that? :? |I'm pretty sure you cant break even on just 1 million sales.

How much do you think MGS4 cost to make? 200 million? 1 million X $60=60,000,000...and I did not even mention the LE sales.

1- The point is ... even if MGS4 sells as much as MGS3, they won't make as much revenue, is that clear ?

2- Konami has to address this problem to actioneers (on a year to year basis)

3- IT'S NOT ABOUT PORTING IT XBOX, it's about what's next if a company does not make enough profits to sustain the losses ???

4- I'm talking to a bunch of kids or what ?

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

Didn't even have to look at your avatar to have guessed what would be in it..

Because of it's pathetic install-base,Konami will probably end up taking a loss on MGS4 and be forced to port it to 360 and PC.

3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past on Sony consoles.

GabeNewellsPie

lol Pathetic install base huh?

Lol to TC............TC is just another bitter lems who can afford one console and can do nothing but waiting for 360 port annoucement ..........

Anyway, MGS4 sold 3 million. Konami, SONY & even GS confirm this...........