MGS4 Vs Halo3- Which one will have bigger impact on console sales?

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#1 gameruk2010
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This is not question about which game is better( we know its MGS4 :P) But my question is who do you HONESTLY think will have bigger affect in system sales.

Will MGS4 shift more PS3s then Halo will for 360? Or vise versa.

PS: Keep fanboyism to minimum please.

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#2 fuzzysquash
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The original Halo had arguably the biggest impact on consoles sold than any other game last generation. So I'd give it to Halo. Although I also think many publishers are waiting on MGS4 to be the big console mover of early 2008.
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#3 lordseer
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No offense. MGS 4 will be critically acclaimed but it won't touch Halo in systems moved.

The biggest effect MGS 4 might have is pushing those who are already planning on getting a PS3 into getting one sooner. Halo 3's launch is an event. The MGS 4 launch will be like any other good video game's launch.

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#4 ninjiijitsuu
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Theirs alot of fps virgins out there, so im going to go with halo 3.

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#5 colmusterd28
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well you'd think that any decent game would be able to stimulate PS3's aweful sales.... however, people know that Halo is a game with infinite shelf life, as in, what game do you know that can be played with the same draw two and three years after its release....?

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#6 Xerlaoth
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Theirs alot of fps virgins out there, so im going to go with halo 3.

ninjiijitsuu

Not really, but you're right about which will move more systems. FPSs have been around wayyyy too long for any gamers to not play at least one.

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#7 fuzzysquash
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The MGS 4 launch will be like any other good video game's launch.

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I would give it more credit than that. MGS2 was the sixth best selling game on the Playstation 2, and Metal Gear Solid was the seventh on the Playstation.

The first MGS on Playstation consoles has always demonstrated that "next-gen leap", and has thereby been a huge system mover.

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#8 Sonic_on_crack
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hmm MGS3 sold 3 million with a base of 100 million

halo 2 sold 7 million on a userbase of 25 million

God it should be a bannable offense to ask simple questions

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#9 lawlessx
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as impressive as MGS4 is graphics wise and gameplay wise..i dont think it will move as much consoles as much as halo3 will.
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#10 ItalStallion777
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no matter what console you own or how much of a fanboy you are, i don't know how you could argue that Halo 3 won't sell more systems than MGS4. Halo 3 has more hype surrounding it than ANY other game before it and many are just getting a 360 to get Halo 3. MGS4 will probably be great (not my kind of game but to those who like the series it will be great) but Halo 3 is just on another level sales wise and selling systems.
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i dont think theres a question as to which game will sell more its going to be Halo.

but most people who want to play halo have probably gotten a 360 and wont move nearly as many units as people say but mgs4 will psuh alot of people over the edge and so i voted for mgs4

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#12 haris12121212
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Seriously... Halo is 10X more of a system seller than MGS... Halo is the one that made the xbox "succed" in sales. Without halo the xbox would've died ages ago.
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#13 papa_smurf_23
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hmm MGS3 sold 3 million with a base of 100 million

halo 2 sold 7 million on a userbase of 25 million

God it should be a bannable offense to ask simple questions

Sonic_on_crack
just because mgs has a bigger userbase doesnt mean it will move more consoles
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#14 II-FBIsniper-II
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I think Halo 3 will because there a lot of people still playing Halo 2 waiting for Halo 2.
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#15 Hitamaru-homia
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MGS4=Current preorders estimated 1 million by Ryan Patton,Halo 3=Current Preorders 3.5 million. Game wise i say MGS4 cause it Story is going to be one hell of a ride.
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#16 Douja555
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Metal Gear has never been a system seller in any shape or form.
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#17 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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Halo3 will but MGS4 will probably be a better game.
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Halo 3, MGS4 will be an awesome critically acclaimed game but I really don't see it as a system seller unless Sony markets the hell out of it.
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#19 fuzzysquash
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Metal Gear has never been a system seller in any shape or form.Douja555

The MGS series has traditionally lagged only behind Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy as system movers for Playstation consoles.

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#20 Sonic_on_crack
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[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]

hmm MGS3 sold 3 million with a base of 100 million

halo 2 sold 7 million on a userbase of 25 million

God it should be a bannable offense to ask simple questions

papa_smurf_23

just because mgs has a bigger userbase doesnt mean it will move more consoles

it means it should sell better which it didnt

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#21 xXHackettXx
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Halo 3's going to be huge and break a lot of sales records. What other launch can you think of are as big as halo 2 and halo 3?
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#22 papa_smurf_23
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MGS4=Current preorders estimated 1 million by Ryan Patton,Halo 3=Current Preorders 3.5 million. Game wise i say MGS4 cause it Story is going to be one hell of a ride. Hitamaru-homia
:shock: can you even preorder mgs4 yet? and halo 3 doesnt have 3.5 million preorders
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#23 Shinoto
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[QUOTE="lordseer"]

The MGS 4 launch will be like any other good video game's launch.

fuzzysquash

I would give it more credit than that. MGS2 was the sixth best selling game on the Playstation 2, and Metal Gear Solid was the seventh on the Playstation.

The first MGS on Playstation consoles has always demonstrated that "next-gen leap", and has thereby been a huge system mover.

Remember, MGS2 came out right when the competition came out. It was one of the big two IPs for the year(FF and that) and on the system everyone was buying.

MGS3...Did it even exist till substance came out? :D MGs3 just dropped like a rock. It took online and substance to make up some ground and even that suffered alot compared to the last two. The thing is...MGS just may not be as strong as fanboys make it out to be anymore. No question on quality I believe can be said. Yea its not my bag...A long drawn out soap opera with guns. But Its not like there arent 1000 worse choices lol. But I think it is more the problem Nintendo had with Cube and N64. Its not going drag new people into buying it...just ones already planning or fanboys or stuff like that. And no...Just because all joo friends ownz a PS2, doesnt mean they have to get a PSThree

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Halo 3, by far. As in not even close. Halo 3 will be insanely huge.
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#25 Raider47
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well u may be right that metal gear solid 4 will have a better campagin but everybody and your grandma knows that halo3 is gunna have a beast multiplayer. and with all the hype of halo3 and the fact that MGS4 wont get any more hype than a new madden game(probably less actully) not to mention the limited halo3 console tells me that Halo3 will have a bigger impact on console sales
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#26 Raider47
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[QUOTE="Hitamaru-homia"]MGS4=Current preorders estimated 1 million by Ryan Patton,Halo 3=Current Preorders 3.5 million. Game wise i say MGS4 cause it Story is going to be one hell of a ride. papa_smurf_23
:shock: can you even preorder mgs4 yet? and halo 3 doesnt have 3.5 million preorders

are u implying that it has more or less than 3.5 million preorders?????

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I think it will be closer than people think, but I will give it to Halo3 by a narrow margin.
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#28 Raider47
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[QUOTE="papa_smurf_23"][QUOTE="Hitamaru-homia"]MGS4=Current preorders estimated 1 million by Ryan Patton,Halo 3=Current Preorders 3.5 million. Game wise i say MGS4 cause it Story is going to be one hell of a ride. Raider47

:shock: can you even preorder mgs4 yet? and halo 3 doesnt have 3.5 million preorders

are u implying that it has more or less than 3.5 million preorders?????

i hope u meant more because i checked and gamstop confirmed over 4 million preorders

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Well, Regardless ifHalo 3 is good or bad,Halo 3 will move more consoles, but i still think MGS 4 will be the better game.....
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[QUOTE="Raider47"]

[QUOTE="papa_smurf_23"][QUOTE="Hitamaru-homia"]MGS4=Current preorders estimated 1 million by Ryan Patton,Halo 3=Current Preorders 3.5 million. Game wise i say MGS4 cause it Story is going to be one hell of a ride. Raider47

:shock: can you even preorder mgs4 yet? and halo 3 doesnt have 3.5 million preorders

are u implying that it has more or less than 3.5 million preorders?????

i hope u meant more because i checked and gamstop confirmed over 4 million preorders

Im pretty sure its not 4 million dude......Halo 3 i think its atleast 1.5 to 2 million pre-orders though i can be wrong.
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MGS isn't a system seller. So Halo 3 by default.
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

The MGS 4 launch will be like any other good video game's launch.

Shinoto

I would give it more credit than that. MGS2 was the sixth best selling game on the Playstation 2, and Metal Gear Solid was the seventh on the Playstation.

The first MGS on Playstation consoles has always demonstrated that "next-gen leap", and has thereby been a huge system mover.

Remember, MGS2 came out right when the competition came out. It was one of the big two IPs for the year(FF and that) and on the system everyone was buying.

MGS3...Did it even exist till substance came out? :D MGs3 just dropped like a rock. It took online and substance to make up some ground and even that suffered alot compared to the last two. The thing is...MGS just may not be as strong as fanboys make it out to be anymore. No question on quality I believe can be said. Yea its not my bag...A long drawn out soap opera with guns. But Its not like there arent 1000 worse choices lol. But I think it is more the problem Nintendo had with Cube and N64. Its not going drag new people into buying it...just ones already planning or fanboys or stuff like that. And no...Just because all joo friends ownz a PS2, doesnt mean they have to get a PSThree

Uhhhh. Did you even read what you just typed out? The whole paragraph was horrible, opinionated, and fanboyish.

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Remember, MGS2 came out right when the competition came out. It was one of the big two IPs for the year(FF and that) and on the system everyone was buying.

MGS3...Did it even exist till substance came out? :D MGs3 just dropped like a rock. It took online and substance to make up some ground and even that suffered alot compared to the last two. The thing is...MGS just may not be as strong as fanboys make it out to be anymore. No question on quality I believe can be said. Yea its not my bag...A long drawn out soap opera with guns. But Its not like there arent 1000 worse choices lol. But I think it is more the problem Nintendo had with Cube and N64. Its not going drag new people into buying it...just ones already planning or fanboys or stuff like that. And no...Just because all joo friends ownz a PS2, doesnt mean they have to get a PSThree

Shinoto

A "long drawn out soap opera with guns"? :roll:

I can make rudimentary mischaracterizations of any great game series too, but I won't stoop that low.

As for the series not being as big as it once was--perhaps. But perhaps the opposite is true. Perhaps the series dipped with MGS3, and will sloap upwards again with MGS4.

Keep in mind that MGS3 still had Gears of War-level sales with 4 million.

And this much is true:

hype for MGS was huge.

Hype for MGS2 was huge.

Hype for MGS3 was mediocre, since the technological aspects of the game weren't as impressive.

Hype for MGS4 is huge again. I expect sales to follow the hype.

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[QUOTE="Raider47"][QUOTE="Raider47"]

[QUOTE="papa_smurf_23"][QUOTE="Hitamaru-homia"]MGS4=Current preorders estimated 1 million by Ryan Patton,Halo 3=Current Preorders 3.5 million. Game wise i say MGS4 cause it Story is going to be one hell of a ride. Blanco98

:shock: can you even preorder mgs4 yet? and halo 3 doesnt have 3.5 million preorders

are u implying that it has more or less than 3.5 million preorders?????

i hope u meant more because i checked and gamstop confirmed over 4 million preorders

Im pretty sure its not 4 million dude......Halo 3 i think its atleast 1.5 to 2 million pre-orders though i can be wrong.

well go check urself

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I honestly think MGS4. The vast majority of people who are going to buy Halo 3 have long had Xbox 360s, you won't see thousands of people rushing to stores to get game and console.

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#36 agentfred
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The original Halo had arguably the biggest impact on consoles sold than any other game last generation. So I'd give it to Halo. Although I also think many publishers are waiting on MGS4 to be the big console mover of early 2008.fuzzysquash

Don't forget how important MGS2 was either. MGS2 was one of the first, "must-own" games for the ps2, and it certainly sold quite a few consoles. Whether it sold more than Halo, I don't know, but in my mind, MGS2 essential to the PS2's console victory last gen.

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I honestly think MGS4. The vast majority of people who are going to buy Halo 3 have long had Xbox 360s, you won't see thousands of people rushing to stores to get game and console.

Scorch799

I would beg to differ.

Remember: most gamers haven't "jumped in" to any of the current gen consoles yet.

A lot of people may have been planning to get a 360, but have been waiting for Halo 3 to come out before opening up their wallets.

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#38 bobaban
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no matter what console you own or how much of a fanboy you are, i don't know how you could argue that Halo 3 won't sell more systems than MGS4. Halo 3 has more hype surrounding it than ANY other game before it and many are just getting a 360 to get Halo 3. MGS4 will probably be great (not my kind of game but to those who like the series it will be great) but Halo 3 is just on another level sales wise and selling systems.ItalStallion777

I agree, I mean Halo is one of the biggest MP games out there - there is so much replay value. However I voted MSG4 out of spite for this dumb thread.

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well go check urself

Raider47

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25623668

Gamespot says bogus.

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Halo 3 will make a bigger impact on the 360 sales than MGSIV will on the PS3 I think.

MS are pumping loads of cash into marketing this game and it's sure to cause a storm on release. That's not to say MGSIV won't do well. MGSIV combined with other PS3 games in 2008 like GT5 and GTAIV will push PS3 sales extremely well.

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#41 agentfred
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[QUOTE="Scorch799"]

I honestly think MGS4. The vast majority of people who are going to buy Halo 3 have long had Xbox 360s, you won't see thousands of people rushing to stores to get game and console.

fuzzysquash

I would beg to differ.

Remember: most gamers haven't "jumped in" to any of the current gen consoles yet.

A lot of people may have been planning to get a 360, but have been waiting for Halo 3 to come out before opening up their wallets.

And people are waiting for a half-decent PS3 game too.

Remember that the ps3 has sold about 1/29 the number of consoles as the PS2. Perhaps their waiting for a killer app?

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Halo 3, have you seen the believe videos? They are making it look all epic like WW2 with that old guy talking
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I can tell you what will be the better game. MGS4, but you already clarified on that.

Anyways, I think MGS4 will help sales of the PS3 more than Halo 3 will for the 360. Simply 'cause anyone who wants a 360 for Halo 3 has already gotten one, and has had one for awhile. I mean, it'll boost sales a bit, but not drastically. Since not many people have a PS3, and think they can hold out for a MGS4 port, the sales of the PS3 will certainly go up when MGS4 is released, once lemmings realizea 360 port is not happening or if it is, won't be out for a loooong time.

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halo 3 will
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of course its Metroid Prime 3 CORRUPTION

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Halo 3, have you seen the believe videos? They are making it look all epic like WW2 with that old guy talking Lief_Ericson

those commercials are stupid. they are a mockery to those who served our country in real wars. not only that, but the acting is damn.....horrrible

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Honestly, I think MGS4 will sell more consoles.
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#48 fuzzysquash
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And people are waiting for a half-decent PS3 game too.

Remember that the ps3 has sold about 1/29 the number of consoles as the PS2. Perhaps their waiting for a killer app?

agentfred

Yes, indeed.

If Sony announces a 40GB $399 model at TGS, the stage will be set for pricing and software to converge and push PS3 sales.

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[QUOTE="Scorch799"]

I honestly think MGS4. The vast majority of people who are going to buy Halo 3 have long had Xbox 360s, you won't see thousands of people rushing to stores to get game and console.

fuzzysquash

I would beg to differ.

Remember: most gamers haven't "jumped in" to any of the current gen consoles yet.

A lot of people may have been planning to get a 360, but have been waiting for Halo 3 to come out before opening up their wallets.

Me being one of those people

Halo3 by far, everyone knows it has more casual appeal.

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#50 ironcreed
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It does not matter which one actually turns out to be the better game. The easy, honest, and obvious answer here is of course Halo 3. The hype monster is just too big, as is the casual base alone. Add in the core gaming base that is dying to play it as well, and you have quite a formidible sales monster on your hands.

On a side note, I absolutely cannot wait for Halo 3, but I do personally think that MGS4 is without question going to be the better game as far as a single player experience goes. Just personal preference, and what I think to be the obvious.