MGS:R, is it really raiden???

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#1 thejakel11225
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The guy in the announcement pic has brown eyes, while raiden has blue eyes, Teh Conspiracy???

some theories about that are circling around, what do u guys think?

also do u think the pc version will be better?? just to keep it system wars relative :P

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#2 Chutebox
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Grey Fox!

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#3 gunit3000
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It's Sunny.

Sunny has grey hair and brown eyes :O

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#4 thejakel11225
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With pics to clarify:

MGS:R

Raiden MGS4

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#5 mgs_freak91
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The guy in the announcement pic has brown eyes, while raiden has blue eyes, Teh Conspiracy???

some theories about that are circling around, what do u guys think?

also do u think the pc version will be better?? just to keep it system wars relative :P

thejakel11225
Yea the eyes was something that i was wondering about as well. But they did say "Raiden" in the trailer, but then again Kojima has been known to make...well i don't want to say a lie - but yea. I doubt it would be something like a MGS2 twist here though. Especially because Kojima actually isn't helping with the development as much as he has in previous MGS games. Oh, the pc version will look the best - but i don't know about controls - unless you plug a controller in. MGS Rising might not be exactly the same gameplay as previous games - atleast this is what i believe - it will be a bit more sword action oriented with minor stealth (i hope i am wrong!). Either way, i won't be picking this up for pc because i personally wouldn't like the controls. LOL. [@Chutebox] I wish it was a game on Gray Fox. With that said i don't think it is, lol.
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#6 Chutebox
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I'm sorry, but no way that's Raiden. His suit didn't have all that shiny **** on the front. Also Grey Fox had a busted left eye.

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#7 gunit3000
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Guys listen to me >.< Its Sunny.....

It has to be

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#8 mgs_freak91
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It's Sunny.

Sunny has grey hair and brown eyes :O

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HAHA. That would be freaky. OH - maybe Konami just doesn't pay attention to detail from previous games (like Kojima) and just made the eyes that color. I wonder what happen to his other eye as well. Hopefully Kojima and the other writers [involved in all previous MGS games] make the story for MGS Rising as great as past games. =D That would be awesome.
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#9 mgs_freak91
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I'm sorry, but no way that's Raiden. His suit didn't have all that shiny **** on the front. Also Grey Fox had a busted left eye.

Chutebox
I agree, but at the same time Gray Fox was crushed. I'm not saying I'm correct in my thoughts - trust me i would love it if it was Gray Fox and i hope that it is. But again the trailer did say "Raiden" and it's also set before MGS4, and one of the large parts of the story that we did not witness that was related to MGS4 was what happen to Raiden - his involvement with Big Mama, rescuing Sunny and his clash with the patriots.
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#10 thejakel11225
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SPOILERS!!!!!

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maybe it's raiden's kid from the end of mgs4??

EDIT:

also if i remember correctly raidens son had a blue and a brown eye, covering his blue eye maybe?

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#11 thejakel11225
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I'm sorry, but no way that's Raiden. His suit didn't have all that shiny **** on the front. Also Grey Fox had a busted left eye.

mgs_freak91

I agree, but at the same time Gray Fox was crushed. I'm not saying I'm correct in my thoughts - trust me i would love it if it was Gray Fox and i hope that it is. But again the trailer did say "Raiden" and it's also set before MGS4, and one of the large parts of the story that we did not witness that was related to MGS4 was what happen to Raiden - his involvement with Big Mama, rescuing Sunny and his clash with the patriots.

it was confirmed that its set b4 MGS4?

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I'm sorry, but no way that's Raiden. His suit didn't have all that shiny **** on the front. Also Grey Fox had a busted left eye.

mgs_freak91
I agree, but at the same time Gray Fox was crushed. I'm not saying I'm correct in my thoughts - trust me i would love it if it was Gray Fox and i hope that it is. But again the trailer did say "Raiden" and it's also set before MGS4, and one of the large parts of the story that we did not witness that was related to MGS4 was what happen to Raiden - his involvement with Big Mama, rescuing Sunny and his clash with the patriots.

That doesn't explain why his suit looks different, and his eye. Grey Fox got crushed, but they could have taken away the crushed part and replaced it with cyborg parts.
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[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I'm sorry, but no way that's Raiden. His suit didn't have all that shiny **** on the front. Also Grey Fox had a busted left eye.

aaronmullan

I agree, but at the same time Gray Fox was crushed. I'm not saying I'm correct in my thoughts - trust me i would love it if it was Gray Fox and i hope that it is. But again the trailer did say "Raiden" and it's also set before MGS4, and one of the large parts of the story that we did not witness that was related to MGS4 was what happen to Raiden - his involvement with Big Mama, rescuing Sunny and his clash with the patriots.

That doesn't explain why his suit looks different, and his eye. Grey Fox got crushed, but they could have taken away the crushed part and replaced it with cyborg parts.

Maybe it's just set way in the past? Gray Fox would be awesome...but then again so would Raiden!

Oh, and Gray Fox's body wasn't there when you revisted Shadow Moses in MGS4. ;)

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#14 gunit3000
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SPOILERS!!!!!

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maybe it's raiden's kid from the end of mgs4??

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also if i remember correctly raidens son had a blue and a brown eye, covering his blue eye maybe?

thejakel11225

A good one :D Didnt think of him

This is why I think It's Sunny

made it real fast in paint >.

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#15 dank124
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yes it is confirmed to be raiden.... but raiden is only a code name

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#16 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

SPOILERS!!!!!

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maybe it's raiden's kid from the end of mgs4??

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also if i remember correctly raidens son had a blue and a brown eye, covering his blue eye maybe?

gunit3000

A good one :D Didnt think of him

made it real fast in paint >.

That's not Raiden's kid lol

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#17 gunit3000
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I know >.> I only said it was a good one >.> That is sunny- And someone witht he codename raiden
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#18 Chutebox
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I know >.> I only said it was a good one >.> That is sunny- And someone witht he codename raidengunit3000
Oh lol, well you quoted someone bringing up Raiden's son....so hopefully you understand my confusion!

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#19 110million
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yes it is confirmed to be raiden.... but raiden is only a code name

dank124
Yeah I kept forgetting about that, though also I doubt its some crazy plot twist, since it is multiplat and an action game, so who knows.
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#20 gunit3000
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Look at the hairstyle of sunny and "raiden", they look almost identical

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="mgs_freak91"] I agree, but at the same time Gray Fox was crushed. I'm not saying I'm correct in my thoughts - trust me i would love it if it was Gray Fox and i hope that it is. But again the trailer did say "Raiden" and it's also set before MGS4, and one of the large parts of the story that we did not witness that was related to MGS4 was what happen to Raiden - his involvement with Big Mama, rescuing Sunny and his clash with the patriots. Chutebox

That doesn't explain why his suit looks different, and his eye. Grey Fox got crushed, but they could have taken away the crushed part and replaced it with cyborg parts.

Maybe it's just set way in the past? Gray Fox would be awesome...but then again so would Raiden!

Oh, and Gray Fox's body wasn't there when you revisted Shadow Moses in MGS4. ;)

Lol, but then again they didn't actually show that his body wasn't there, no view or anything - everything was destroyed basically. But maybe you are right, maybe someone took the crushed body. Though...it would have been destroyed, the cutscene when it happened saw REX not only crush him but swipe his leg across the floor. It's hard to believe that his head managed to survive.
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#22 AdoringFan_
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SPOILERS

To Gunit..

Sunny is Olga Gurlukavich's child ;)

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#23 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] That doesn't explain why his suit looks different, and his eye. Grey Fox got crushed, but they could have taken away the crushed part and replaced it with cyborg parts.mgs_freak91

Maybe it's just set way in the past? Gray Fox would be awesome...but then again so would Raiden!

Oh, and Gray Fox's body wasn't there when you revisted Shadow Moses in MGS4. ;)

Lol, but then again they didn't actually show that his body wasn't there, no view or anything - everything was destroyed basically. But maybe you are right, maybe someone took the crushed body. Though...it would have been destroyed, the cutscene when it happened saw REX not only crush him but swipe his leg across the floor. It's hard to believe that his head managed to survive.

I think you underestimate the amount of damage Kojima characters can take and live! Hell, look what happened to Raiden in MGS4 lol.
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#24 gunit3000
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SPOILERS

To Gunit..

Sunny is Olga Gurlukavich's child ;)

AdoringFan_

I know.....

It's just that i responded to that guy that it also could have been raiden's son, The Pic i posted is Sunny and "Raide" :P

I think im gonna edit that post :P second time somebody got confused lol

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#25 def_mode
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you guys never heard of cloured eye contacts? and hair dye?

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#26 110million
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you guys never heard of cloured eye contacts? and hair dye?

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The real question, would be: why?
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#27 thejakel11225
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yes it is confirmed to be raiden.... but raiden is only a code name

dank124

hmm true and interesting

More SPOILERS



Footage of raidens son

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#28 Patatopan
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Grey Fox!

Chutebox
It better not be, that guy died and should just stay dead, not have kojima screw up the entire story line and bring him back only for shock value of some sorts.
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#29 zarshack
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I think you underestimate the amount of damage Kojima characters can take and live! Hell, look what happened to Raiden in MGS4 lol.Chutebox
The guy was run over by a boat and lived... i could have sworn he was dead there and then but no! there he was 10 minutes later alive and well ._.

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#30 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="mgs_freak91"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Maybe it's just set way in the past? Gray Fox would be awesome...but then again so would Raiden!

Oh, and Gray Fox's body wasn't there when you revisted Shadow Moses in MGS4. ;)

Chutebox

Lol, but then again they didn't actually show that his body wasn't there, no view or anything - everything was destroyed basically. But maybe you are right, maybe someone took the crushed body. Though...it would have been destroyed, the cutscene when it happened saw REX not only crush him but swipe his leg across the floor. It's hard to believe that his head managed to survive.

I think you underestimate the amount of damage Kojima characters can take and live! Hell, look what happened to Raiden in MGS4 lol.

GRAY FOX WAS SCRAPED ALONG THE FLOOR! There wasn't even any pile underneath, REX's foot was perfectly flat. You can't compare the two scenes. Supposedly the Patriots replaced Raiden's body with that suit, but his spine and head (other than his jaw) was kept. I do think you need the head atleast. That was from MGS wiki by the way, so not even i trust that. Again i hope it is Gray Fox, i love the MGS series and even to this date Gray Fox is my most favourite ninja from any game. I've got nothing against Raiden, I'm one of the few who actually liked him in MGS2! Maybe you were as well, I don't know. But Gray Fox can still kick Raidens arse. :P.

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#31 ps3wizard45
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Its teh mexican kid sunny meets at the end of MGS4! :o

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#32 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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It's actually Duke Nukem, MGS: Rising is actually a cover up for the real game, Duke Nukem Forever.
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#33 muffintheduffin
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umm, is it me or did NO ONE not remember that MGS:R is suppose to be a prequel to MGS:4. so why would it be SUNNY when she was basically 8 years old or so in MGS:4? you guys best be joking.

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#34 muffintheduffin
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SPOILER!!

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SUNNY saved the world didn't she? then WHY in the world would she be dressed up in armor going on a murderous rampage as a god darn ninja?!!

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#36 Kandlegoat
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it's most likely his' brother Larry.

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#37 manicfoot
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If its set before MGS4 how the left testicle could it be Sunny?:o

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#38 gunit3000
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Sunny (grown up) and Otacon made a Time Travelling device. Sunny went back in time to do sum stuf :P

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[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]

SPOILERS!!!!!

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maybe it's raiden's kid from the end of mgs4??

EDIT:

also if i remember correctly raidens son had a blue and a brown eye, covering his blue eye maybe?

gunit3000

A good one :D Didnt think of him

This is why I think It's Sunny

made it real fast in paint >.

Except that certainly doesn't look like a woman in the right pic. :P Those are very male-ish features.