Michael Pachter : Uncharted 2 sales lackluster

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#1 PSP107
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http://n4g.com/industrynews/News-443783.aspx orginal link wasnt valid

Thoughts?

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#2 FIipMode
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How often is this guy ever right?

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#3 Yandere
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Glad that he knows what the developers don't.

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#4 Yankees718
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How often is this guy ever right?

FIipMode

Well he's right. U2 sales suck....although on the other hand its not an established name...YET

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#5 BURSTIIIFIRE
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The sales are better than average but being a GOTY it should have sold way more. Kinda makes you wonder what most PS3 owners are doing

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#6 JunkTrap
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I think the problem with Uncharted isn't the gameplay or graphics. I think it has to do with character appeal. Don't get me wrong, I like the Uncharted cast, but you don't really have any characters that are "cool". The characters are not mascot worthy. I think a lot of people judge games by the cover at the store. Majority of the people probably don't read up on games, and that is why sales are not as good as they should be. Hell if I was a casual and I walked into a store and saw it on the shelf, I would probably overlook it. Sad thing is even if it does have long legs, most people will probably end up buying it used and the devs will never see the money, nor will it be recorded as a sale.

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#7 Gxgear
Member since 2003 • 10425 Posts

I guess the only way lemmings can get their shots in at Uncharted 2 is through sales. ;)

By the way, kudos for agreeing with the guy that's almost never been right about anything.

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#8 ___gamemaster__
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i think a 20M budget game that sold a 1M plus and counting are not bad at all..

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#9 BPoole96
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I really wish there was an explanation as to why this game isn't in the 2-3 million range. Wth are people playing instead?

Oh right, Modern Warfare 2. Everyone bought that

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#10 tirralirra
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The sales are better than average but being a GOTY it should have sold way more. Kinda makes you wonder what most PS3 owners are doing

BURSTIIIFIRE
True, but i can garuantee that its lifetime sales will be good.
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#11 thelastguy
Member since 2007 • 12030 Posts

Sony needs better commercials for their games plain and simple

They need to take notes from Microsoft, who makes awesome ads

Gears of War Mad World

Halo 3 - Believe

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#12 jhcho2
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Of course if we compare that to sales of a typical popular game on the 360, it is nothing. But then again, ps3 game sales are mostly such. Killzone 2 was good and only sold over a million worldwide, and if U2 sold 650k units in the US, that would make worldwide sales also fall over a million units. It seems statistically consistent.

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#13 LP4EVA2005
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The sales are better than average but being a GOTY it should have sold way more. Kinda makes you wonder what most PS3 owners are doing

BURSTIIIFIRE

yea seriously..

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#14 robertmac_33
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I really wish there was an explanation as to why this game isn't in the 2-3 million range. Wth are people playing instead?

Oh right, Modern Warfare 2. Everyone bought that

BPoole96

I didn't... In fact i haven't played COD 4 yet... i plan to at some point, but im in no rush to do so at the moment... especially as retailers arr still charging £40+ for it. Last i looked in Game, it was only £7 cheaper than MW2

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#15 LongZhiZi
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While I used to enjoy hearing Pachter knowing full well he may be wrong about things, when I watched the most recent Bonus Round on Gametrailers and heard him say that PS3's are just as powerful if not more powerful than PCs, he instantly lost credibility with me.
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#16 Tragic_Kingdom7
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I love threads like this one because I get to watch lemmings endorse a guy that they regularly trash and I get to watch cows endorse a guy that they often defend.

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#17 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I really wish there was an explanation as to why this game isn't in the 2-3 million range. Wth are people playing instead?

Oh right, Modern Warfare 2. Everyone bought that

robertmac_33

I didn't... In fact i haven't played COD 4 yet... i plan to at some point, but im in no rush to do so at the moment... especially as retailers arr still charging £40+ for it. Last i looked in Game, it was only £7 cheaper than MW2

I didn't buy it either. However, the day it came out, and even now, I'll have 15-30 people at just about any given time playing MW2. Most of them went played CoD4 for 2 years and didn't buy any other game besides Cod: WaW. I don't even think they considered buying it. I even sent one of my good PSN friends a copy of Uncharted 2 for his birthday and he played online with me for like 2 matches and then went back to playing MW2.

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#18 PSdual_wielder
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As long as the game sells good enough that ND are comfortable with what to invest into making, I think its fine.

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#19 PBSnipes
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As much as I hate to say anything positive about Captain Obvious (PhD in Obvious Studies, Dean of Obvious State University (home of the fightin' Obviousnesses (huh?))) over there, he's right. There simply isn't any excuse for poor UC2 sales -- it has recieved literally unanimous praise, it was marketed well, and the PS3 has been selling like crazy. At this point in time, it should be at 2-2.5 million copies sold minimum.
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#20 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts
Glad to know the game itself wasn't. :?
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#21 T-Aldous
Member since 2006 • 1244 Posts

The game is incredible and should have sold more than it did. What the hell is wrong with PS3 owners? I have to wonder how much this game would have sold if it had been a 360 exclusive?

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#22 TheOldOlder
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Lifetime sales will have a word with that man in the long run
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#23 tempest91
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[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

The sales are better than average but being a GOTY it should have sold way more. Kinda makes you wonder what most PS3 owners are doing

LP4EVA2005

yea seriously..

Watching blu-ray movies?

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#24 funsohng
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I consider Michael Pachter as the personified version of VGchart
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#25 HermitQ6600
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He's about the bizness

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#26 AAllxxjjnn
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Does Pachter really get paid for this?
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#27 Jake145222
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This could actually be the first time he is right!
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#28 TheOwnerOner
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Cows are too busy watching awesome bluray
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#29 Gundamforce
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How often is this guy ever right?

FIipMode

Unless it's something completely obvious...no.

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#30 delta3074
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UC2 is what we call a cult classic, a cult classic is a game, movie or album that not many people buy, but everyone who did buy it thought it was absolutely fabulous, a good example of a cult classic is the film underworld
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#31 EzioTheEagIe
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Micheal Pachter is the biggest console hopping bastard. Pre NPD, he was pro PS3 After NPD, its this Most of his predictions are inaccurate anyway
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#32 EzioTheEagIe
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Micheal Pachter: Uncharted 2 didn't sell like an Xbox 360 exclusive fixed
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#33 AdmiralBison
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The sales are better than average but being a GOTY it should have sold way more. Kinda makes you wonder what most PS3 owners are doing

BURSTIIIFIRE

yeah, buying blu-rays.

I'm wondering how blu-ray movie sales are

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#34 SionPT
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[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

The sales are better than average but being a GOTY it should have sold way more. Kinda makes you wonder what most PS3 owners are doing

LP4EVA2005

yea seriously..

i trully agree, from all of my 6/7 ****ates that own a PS3 only 1 got U2, the other simply dont even know the game, with xbox everyone one knows its games (meybe because 50% download off internet and others 50% only buys halo/cod/forza and those big one) with PS3 people dont really know wich are the must one wich aren't, and of course the price of the game totally sucks

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#35 CanYouDiglt
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How often is this guy ever right?

FIipMode
He is not predicting a future game sales event he can look at the sales now. You may disagree if you want but he is looking at the present day sales and thinks they suck not some future release.
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#36 nhh18
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I consider Michael Pachter as the personified version of VGchartfunsohng
patcher doesn't make up sales which are regarded as the truth. VGChartz is on a whole other league of horrible. They are yellow media as yellow as they can be

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#38 BloodSeeker1337
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Uncharted 2 Sales Are Weak. Only 1.97 M :lol:
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#39 Totalgym9000
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the first uncharted started off really slow and ended up selling 2 million plus copies, and uncharted 2 started off really good and has almost sold 2 million world wide already and will continue to have legs, If we want to talk about poor sales then lets bring up forza 3?
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#40 Ace6301
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Since when is over 1 million copies of anything "Lackluster". Sure it's no Halo or MW2 but it's sold pretty well. ...At the same time though the game is amazing and if you have a PS3 and don't own Uncharted 2 then really why do you own a PS3? That's one thing about the PS3 that really baffles me, there are some amazing games out there but yet there are mediocre games that sell more than PS3 exclusives and many PS3 exclusives are great games. But then again you would also think everyone with a 360 would have Halo 3 and Gears yet neither of those sold for even half the install base (I think im not 100% sure there). You would think word of mouth alone would cause games like Uncharted 2 to sell at least as much as Gears.
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#41 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]

[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

The sales are better than average but being a GOTY it should have sold way more. Kinda makes you wonder what most PS3 owners are doing

tempest91

yea seriously..

Watching blu-ray movies?

Yes there is the huge chunk of the install base who bought it soleyfor a blu-ray player, but i'm sure the majority bought it for either a gaming system, or both.

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#42 wooooode
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I would not say lackluster because in America alone it has sold over a million, it may not be what it should be but far from lackluster.
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#43 CZVA
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To any PS3 owners who do not have this game. Why havent you bought this game yet? What is wrong with you?
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#44 BodyElite
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I think the problem with Uncharted isn't the gameplay or graphics. I think it has to do with character appeal. Don't get me wrong, I like the Uncharted cast, but you don't really have any characters that are "cool". The characters are not mascot worthy. I think a lot of people judge games by the cover at the store. Majority of the people probably don't read up on games, and that is why sales are not as good as they should be. Hell if I was a casual and I walked into a store and saw it on the shelf, I would probably overlook it. Sad thing is even if it does have long legs, most people will probably end up buying it used and the devs will never see the money, nor will it be recorded as a sale.

JunkTrap

Drake, by far, has the most character out of any video game character out there. If they made an Uncharted movie, i doubt that anyone can play the role of Drake perfectly, his character is just too unique

Also, i agree with the other guy. What are PS3 owners doing? Playing on Home? I own U2 but havnt played it since ive beaten it, im playing the God of War Collection now

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#45 immortality20
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I really wish there was an explanation as to why this game isn't in the 2-3 million range. Wth are people playing instead?

Oh right, Modern Warfare 2. Everyone bought that

BPoole96

Not on the PS3 they didn't. All software sales on PS3 is very off, people can afford it but then don't bother with games?

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n4g? sorry no.

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#47 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I really wish there was an explanation as to why this game isn't in the 2-3 million range. Wth are people playing instead?

Oh right, Modern Warfare 2. Everyone bought that

immortality20

Not on the PS3 they didn't. All software sales on PS3 is very off, people can afford it but then don't bother with games?

Well just about everybody on my friends list bought it aside from maybe 3 people have bought it. Barely any of them bought Uncharted 2 because it's not an FPS

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#48 WAIW
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Pachter... Better than Play Magazine, worse than Cliffy B.

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#49 wayne_kar
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

How often is this guy ever right?

Yankees718

Well he's right. U2 sales suck....although on the other hand its not an established name...YET

neither was gears of war
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#50 chapnzaba
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What happened to this world... it used to be a very good thing when a game hits 1Mill. I mean seriously...