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Speaking at a briefing with MSN Tech, Yusuf Mehdi, CVP at Microsoft IEB said: When the transition from the original Xbox to the Xbox 360 happened we moved completely to the 360. In fact, we couldnt wait to get off and on to the new version. With the 360 its a very different prospect. Were having tremendous success with the Xbox 360 and, even though weve sold almost 76 million units we believe over the next five years or so we can break 100 million units.'


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Interesting. This gen more than any other I don't know why anyone is super enthusiastic for launch day consoles. I think we'll be seeing a lot of the best games on last-gen consoles for a couple years at least.

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Wouldn't suprise me if it keeps selling in the US for a couple more years.
PS2 sold around 50 million units after PS3s release.
But Microsoft seriously needs to support it if they want it to keep selling, PS3 is getting tons of support, 360 is not.

I do think PS3 will pass Wii in lifetime sales, not too sure about 360, it needs more support.

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So what would they consider a success in regards to Xbox One sales I wonder? 30 million 360s in five years and another 30 million Xbox Ones?
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So what would they consider a success in regards to Xbox One sales I wonder? 30 million 360s in five years and another 30 million Xbox Ones?R3FURBISHED
They're obviously not pushing for big numbers with the Xbone. Right out of the gate the PS4 is launching in 30+ countries and the Xbone in only 13, IIRC. The PS4 will likely mirror the PS3 and go on to sell in dozens of countries, whereas MS seem to plan the Xbone to release in fewer countries than both of its predecessors. In terms of 'the console war', the PS4 has already won by default. I think Microsoft's strategy is completely different this time around.
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]So what would they consider a success in regards to Xbox One sales I wonder? 30 million 360s in five years and another 30 million Xbox Ones?Ninja-Hippo
They're obviously not pushing for big numbers with the Xbone. Right out of the gate the PS4 is launching in 30+ countries and the Xbone in only 13, IIRC. The PS4 will likely mirror the PS3 and go on to sell in dozens of countries, whereas MS seem to plan the Xbone to release in fewer countries than both of its predecessors. In terms of 'the console war', the PS4 has already won by default. I think Microsoft's strategy is completely different this time around.

Considering the only pre-order number we have hear is from Sony stating they have 1 million+ preorders, calling this over and done with seems a little to premature.
And while the PS4 is launching in more countries, I put a shit load more stock in the larger population countries. And the only large population that is receiving just one is Russia with the PS4. 

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#6 Ghost120x
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How?
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I'm beginning to think this is behind the real reason the X1 has no BC, they want to make more money selling the Xbox 360 into next gen.
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How?Ghost120x
They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

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#9 Suppaman100
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But there's nothing to play on the 360. What rational thinking human would buy a 360 over a PS3?
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#10 treedoor
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I just wish the price was right. $300 for an Xbox with a hard drive is just way too much considering the thing launched 8 years ago.

 

I wish it was like last gen where late into the gen you could get a PS2 and Xbox for $130 each, and a Gamecube for $80. Those were the good days :P

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I don't see that happening unless they drop the price a lot.
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This Fall I bet MS lowers the price of the 360 to about $250. Next year should be around $200 for 250gb hdd. The 360 has some games this fall like Fable HD, XBLA games, etc. Next year Project Spark, Titanfall, and other exclusives. 

 

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#13 handssss
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with what software?

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there's no real point in getting one i'm afraid with the lack of support. The only thing you'll get on the 360 from now on will be multiplat's which you can have access to from the Ps3 or even the Wii U. Now considering choices Wii U and the Ps3 will still have support.... Wii U having more exclusive lineup for years to come (eventually  ~ ) while Ps3 has confirmed support until 2015. I don't see why anyone would get an xbox360 at this point if you haven't gotten one already.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]So what would they consider a success in regards to Xbox One sales I wonder? 30 million 360s in five years and another 30 million Xbox Ones?R3FURBISHED

They're obviously not pushing for big numbers with the Xbone. Right out of the gate the PS4 is launching in 30+ countries and the Xbone in only 13, IIRC. The PS4 will likely mirror the PS3 and go on to sell in dozens of countries, whereas MS seem to plan the Xbone to release in fewer countries than both of its predecessors. In terms of 'the console war', the PS4 has already won by default. I think Microsoft's strategy is completely different this time around.

Considering the only pre-order number we have hear is from Sony stating they have 1 million+ preorders, calling this over and done with seems a little to premature.
And while the PS4 is launching in more countries, I put a shit load more stock in the larger population countries. And the only large population that is receiving just one is Russia with the PS4. 

PS4 is killing Xflop in the US and UK preorders right now. Microsoft loses those by any margin and they will get embarrassed this gen.

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with what software?

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The over 900 retail titles, and the 3000 or so indie/arcade titles?

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This Fall I bet MS lowers the price of the 360 to about $250. Next year should be around $200 for 250gb hdd. The 360 has some games this fall like Fable HD, XBLA games, etc. Next year Project Spark, Titanfall, and other exclusives. 

 

xhawk27

Still not getting the level of support the PS3 is or any where close to it.

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#18 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="handssss"]

with what software?

treedoor

The over 900 retail titles, and the 3000 or so indie/arcade titles?

Only the extremely poor are still clamoring for 8 year old console with bunch of old games. At least PS3 gets games like Gran Turismo 6.

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[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]How?Nike_Air

They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?
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#20 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]How?kingtito

They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?

Whether you paid for them or not it still came out of their stock.

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#21 xhawk27
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

This Fall I bet MS lowers the price of the 360 to about $250. Next year should be around $200 for 250gb hdd. The 360 has some games this fall like Fable HD, XBLA games, etc. Next year Project Spark, Titanfall, and other exclusives. 

 

StrongBlackVine

Still not getting the level of support the PS3 is or any where close to it.

The 360 has a huge backlog of games. Still the PS3 has games this fall but next year what do they have? Also don't count out MS making more games for the 360 next year. Fable HD might be the start of more exclusive games for the 360. 

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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

StrongBlackVine

Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?

Whether you paid for them or not it still came out of their stock.

It doesn't count towards total sales. Thought you knew that but you're a cow, need I say more.
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#23 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?kingtito

Whether you paid for them or not it still came out of their stock.

It doesn't count towards total sales. Thought you knew that but you're a cow, need I say more.

I said nothing about sales. Microsoft had already accounted for the massive failures and stocked for it.

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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

StrongBlackVine

Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?

Whether you paid for them or not it still came out of their stock.

If you PS3 goes down afte a year you have to pay a lot to get it fixed by Sony. I guess those systems came out of their stock. :|

 

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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Whether you paid for them or not it still came out of their stock.

StrongBlackVine

It doesn't count towards total sales. Thought you knew that but you're a cow, need I say more.

I said nothing about sales. Microsoft had already accounted for the massive failures and stocked for it.

What does that have to do about sales and total consoles sold? Repairs don't count towards the total number. So what's your point?
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="handssss"]

with what software?

StrongBlackVine

The over 900 retail titles, and the 3000 or so indie/arcade titles?

Only the extremely poor are still clamoring for 8 year old console with bunch of old games. At least PS3 gets games like Gran Turismo 6.

If your first time getting an Xbox 360 is in 2013 then why would you care if the games it has are from 2005 or 2008 or 2013? The only reason you should care is if you've already played them, and you're looking for something new to play.

I'd buy a 360 myself if the price was more like $100-$150. Games like Kameo, Tales of Vesperia, Dead Rising, and Gears of War are all games I've never played, and would be brand new experiences to me. Age doesn't matter.

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#27 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] It doesn't count towards total sales. Thought you knew that but you're a cow, need I say more.kingtito

I said nothing about sales. Microsoft had already accounted for the massive failures and stocked for it.

What does that have to do about sales and total consoles sold? Repairs don't count towards the total number. So what's your point?

I don't really have point. Just saw you were typical lemming that gone through at least 3 Xboxes and comment.

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#28 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

I said nothing about sales. Microsoft had already accounted for the massive failures and stocked for it.

StrongBlackVine

What does that have to do about sales and total consoles sold? Repairs don't count towards the total number. So what's your point?

I don't really have point. Just saw you were typical lemming that gone through at least 3 Xboxes and comment.

I'm not a lemming, just pointing out that I never had to rebuy anything and that repairs or replacements don't count towards total sales. You area cow however, so your views are skewed with anything MS related. I'm not as stupid to pledge loyalty to 1 company
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5 years? So 13 years old? Huh, if Sony does the same these might become the longest active consoles of all time.
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]How?kingtito

They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?

Some break out of warranty. Yours didn't , so good for you. 

 

 

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good luck with that. :roll:

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http://www.oxm.co.uk/54712/microsoft-aiming-for-100-million-xbox-360s-sold-and-one-billion-next-gen-consoles/

"We believe over the next five years we can break a 100 million unit installed base," Medhi began. That's something we're shooting for, it's not a financial plan as such, it's just rough numbers if you will. To sell another 25 million, half of those will probably come from replacements, but half will come from new buyers."

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Eh, that's going to be really, really tough for them.

I could see Sony doing that pretty easily with the PS3, long lifecycles are their bread-and-butter. This will be more difficult for Microsoft because the consumer that prefers their platform most likely already has a 360, or is waiting for an X1.

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To whom?

LOL I underestimate lemmings love for kinect mini games.

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="handssss"]

with what software?

StrongBlackVine

The over 900 retail titles, and the 3000 or so indie/arcade titles?

Only the extremely poor are still clamoring for 8 year old console with bunch of old games. At least PS3 gets games like Gran Turismo 6.

Only Poor people, what a bigoted attitude you have, how about people who are not poor but have a limited budget because they are responsible and support there wife and kids. And the 360 is still getting plenty of support with Destiny, titanfall, Dead or alive ultimate, diablo 3 and many more games, there are no less than 90+ games being released on the 360 the rest of this year, Including Fable anniversary, and there are already 30+ games confirmed for next year. http://uk.ign.com/games/upcoming/xbox-360?filter=latest This is exactly the reason i will wait to get my Ps4 for at least a year after release, 360 games will get cheaper when the XB1 releases.
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it's probably possible over a 5 year span. but like other's said, they need to support it and the way that i see it, their support isnt very strong. only on the kinect side of things but then again that's what sells..... unfortunately. 

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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

Nike_Air

Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?

Some break out of warranty. Yours didn't , so good for you. 

 

 

Not the new s models, those things are reliable as hell.
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]They are figuring nearly half of them to be replacement buys because of shoddy hardware or people wanting to replace their older crappy ones that sound like a jet engine with the newer model. 

 

 

 

Nike_Air

Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?

Some break out of warranty. Yours didn't , so good for you. 

 

 

In the 3 years the issue was fixed. My launch model still works. Couldn't say the same for my PS3 that I had to fix at my own cost. So you going to count all the broken down PS3s that broke and had to be replaced? How about all the PS2s and PS1s that broke and WEREN'T covered under warranty?
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#39 handssss
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[QUOTE="handssss"]

with what software?

treedoor

The over 900 retail titles, and the 3000 or so indie/arcade titles?

yeah, because there's going to be many people, 30 million, who are going to buy an old system that isn't being supported with games anymore and hasn't really been getting much support for a few years now. there was a reason why ps2 kept dominating for awhile. Sony kept supporting it with new games AND the ps3 was pretty unaffordable for a few years. Xbox was dropped like a bad habit as soon as the 360 came out and the 360 won't be any different when the one comes out save for the usual launch cross system sets and some random 3rd party making a half-assed port of titanfall.
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#40 handssss
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?kingtito

Some break out of warranty. Yours didn't , so good for you. 

 

 

In the 3 years the issue was fixed. My launch model still works. Couldn't say the same for my PS3 that I had to fix at my own cost. So you going to count all the broken down PS3s that broke and had to be replaced? How about all the PS2s and PS1s that broke and WEREN'T covered under warranty?

you're full of shit and think the problem wasn't that bad just because you had good luck. Let me tell you exactly how system replacing worked since I had to deal with RROD 3 times. Microsoft would take your system and give you another one they fixed. Not a newer model with the problem solved and not your own machine. If you turned in an original 360, they wouldn't give you one with the jasper or whatever chip set or one with HDMI on it. The problem that caused RROD wasn't fixed until the 360s model was released and for most of us who were tired of dealing with RROD and didn't want to pay after the extended warranty had expired went and bought ourselves that model.

Now I'm not gonna lie and pretend YLOD didn't exist either. I also had that problem and had to ditch my launch day ps3. This didn't happen to me until after I bought a 360s (and my first 360 was bought like 9 months before the ps3 came out). Still, I won't say that problem wasn't widespread either. However, you are ridiculous if you think YLOD was even close to being as big or as widespread of a problem as RROD in the amount of systems that were failing. That serious number is what forced MS to extend free repair dates for their system.

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="handssss"]

with what software?

handssss

The over 900 retail titles, and the 3000 or so indie/arcade titles?

yeah, because there's going to be many people, 30 million, who are going to buy an old system that isn't being supported with games anymore and hasn't really been getting much support for a few years now. there was a reason why ps2 kept dominating for awhile. Sony kept supporting it with new games AND the ps3 was pretty unaffordable for a few years. Xbox was dropped like a bad habit as soon as the 360 came out and the 360 won't be any different when the one comes out save for the usual launch cross system sets and some random 3rd party making a half-assed port of titanfall.

The PS2 got a bunch of shovelware, and sports games after the PS3 launched. Outside of a few niche Japanese games like Persona and Yakuza, God of War 2 was about the only notable exclusive the system got.

I doubt the 50 million buyers of the PS2, since the PS3's launch, all went out and got it for God of War 2, and Persona 4.

They went out and got one because they wanted to replace their old PS2s, they were cheap to game on, and obviously Sony sold them in developing markets. The PS2 was a released to Brazil in 2009.

If Microsoft sold the Xbox 360 at $100-$200 it wouldn't matter if they themselves never released a game on it again. It'll be a cheap way to get into gaming which is a huge part of the appeal after a next-gen console has launched.

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] Really? Funny cause I replaced 3 and not one did I have to pay for? Stupid much?kingtito

Some break out of warranty. Yours didn't , so good for you. 

 

 

In the 3 years the issue was fixed. My launch model still works. Couldn't say the same for my PS3 that I had to fix at my own cost. So you going to count all the broken down PS3s that broke and had to be replaced? How about all the PS2s and PS1s that broke and WEREN'T covered under warranty?

I just answered his question in a fun way for SW to hurt butts , that's what I do. Microsoft is saying probably half will be replacements buys. This has nothing to do with the beast that is PS3. Stay on topic.

 

 

 

 

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#43 delta3074
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

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with what software?

handssss

The over 900 retail titles, and the 3000 or so indie/arcade titles?

yeah, because there's going to be many people, 30 million, who are going to buy an old system that isn't being supported with games anymore and hasn't really been getting much support for a few years now. there was a reason why ps2 kept dominating for awhile. Sony kept supporting it with new games AND the ps3 was pretty unaffordable for a few years. Xbox was dropped like a bad habit as soon as the 360 came out and the 360 won't be any different when the one comes out save for the usual launch cross system sets and some random 3rd party making a half-assed port of titanfall.

90+ games confirmed for the rest of the year and 30+ confirmed for next year already, Explain how it's not being supported? oh i get it, you are one of those numptys who thinks that only Exclusive games = Support,lol
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#44 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Some break out of warranty. Yours didn't , so good for you.

handssss

In the 3 years the issue was fixed. My launch model still works. Couldn't say the same for my PS3 that I had to fix at my own cost. So you going to count all the broken down PS3s that broke and had to be replaced? How about all the PS2s and PS1s that broke and WEREN'T covered under warranty?

you're full of shit and think the problem wasn't that badjust because you had good luck. Let me tell you exactly how system replacing worked since I had to deal with RROD 3 times. Microsoft would take your system and give you another one they fixed.Not a newer model with the problem solved and not your own machine. If you turned in an original 360, they wouldn't give you one with the jasper or whatever chip set or one with HDMI on it. The problem that caused RROD wasn't fixed until the 360s model was released and for most of us who were tired of dealing with RROD and didn't want to pay after the extended warranty had expired went and bought ourselves that model.

Now I'm not gonna lie and pretend YLOD didn't exist either. I also had that problem and had to ditch my launch day ps3. This didn't happen to me until after I bought a 360s (and my first 360 was bought like 9 months before the ps3 came out). Still, I won't say that problem wasn't widespread either. However, you are ridiculous if you think YLOD was even close to being as big or as widespread of a problem as RRODin the amount of systems that were failing. That serious number is what forced MS to extend free repair dates for their system.

Point out where I said it wasn't a big problem smart guy? I said mine got replaced 3 times and my launch model is STILL working. I also pointed out that Sony has had 3 consoles that had LOTS of problems that COST me money to repair or replace.

Again where did I say I got the same system back? Where did I say ANYTHING about the process for HOW they replace the units?

Good for you if that's what you did. I didn't because MINE still works. Doesn't really matter because almost everyone that owned a PS1, PS2 and to come extent the PS3 replaced their models at some point. It's the same with all companies, so your point is?

YOLD and bad lasers was a BIG problem. Did I say it was AS big as a problem as RROD? Difference being Sony DIDN'T pay for repairs while MS did. Sony didn't replace my PS3 for free and it broke in less than 3 years. Nike is trying to imply that the 360 total sales are inflated by the RROD issue and I'm saying it's not. In fact if MS numbers are inflated then so are Sony's, so it works both ways.

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#45 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]Some break out of warranty. Yours didn't , so good for you. 

 

 

Nike_Air

In the 3 years the issue was fixed. My launch model still works. Couldn't say the same for my PS3 that I had to fix at my own cost. So you going to count all the broken down PS3s that broke and had to be replaced? How about all the PS2s and PS1s that broke and WEREN'T covered under warranty?

I just answered his question in a fun way for SW to hurt butts , that's what I do. Microsoft is saying probably half will be replacements buys. This has nothing to do with the beast that is PS3. Stay on topic.

 

 

 

 

Yes I know your intentions so I answered in typical systems wars fashion. Can't leave PS3 out of the topic since neither system can be left out of a topic no matter what the topic is about.
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#47 campzor
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I can only see them doing that if they drop the price to like $99 or something.
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#48 Floppy_Jim
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I'm quite the sure the Wii will end in 3rd place. Imagine saying that 4 years ago.
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#49 wooooode
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I love the way they admit they just gave up on the Xbox.
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#50 rjdofu
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LMAO