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antitrust settlement with Microsoft to expire this year, what this mean for Microsoft and the World? In an age of Apple iPhones, Google Web searches and Facebook friends, Microsoft Corp.'s control over the computer desktop through its Windows operating system might seem like last decade's monopoly. But in a statement released Wednesday, the Justice Department said it believes the landmark case that it and 19 state attorneys general brought against Microsoft in 1998 helped open the computer industry to greater competition and innovation across the technology sector. The government credits a settlement reached after years of courtroom battles with creating market conditions that have allowed all sorts of new products and services - from mobile devices to cloud computing - to challenge Microsoft's powerful Windows computing platform. Now they will let Microsoft run Wild.
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[QUOTE="patofeo1"]antitrust settlement with Microsoft to expire this year, what this mean for Microsoft and the World? In an age of Apple iPhones, Google Web searches and Facebook friends, Microsoft Corp.'s control over the computer desktop through its Windows operating system might seem like last decade's monopoly. But in a statement released Wednesday, the Justice Department said it believes the landmark case that it and 19 state attorneys general brought against Microsoft in 1998 helped open the computer industry to greater competition and innovation across the technology sector. The government credits a settlement reached after years of courtroom battles with creating market conditions that have allowed all sorts of new products and services - from mobile devices to cloud computing - to challenge Microsoft's powerful Windows computing platform. Now they will let Microsoft run Wild.

What did the antitrust lawsuit do to MS exactly?
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="patofeo1"]antitrust settlement with Microsoft to expire this year, what this mean for Microsoft and the World? In an age of Apple iPhones, Google Web searches and Facebook friends, Microsoft Corp.'s control over the computer desktop through its Windows operating system might seem like last decade's monopoly. But in a statement released Wednesday, the Justice Department said it believes the landmark case that it and 19 state attorneys general brought against Microsoft in 1998 helped open the computer industry to greater competition and innovation across the technology sector. The government credits a settlement reached after years of courtroom battles with creating market conditions that have allowed all sorts of new products and services - from mobile devices to cloud computing - to challenge Microsoft's powerful Windows computing platform. Now they will let Microsoft run Wild.

What did the antitrust lawsuit do to MS exactly?

well lets see, Google, yahoo, apple will b dead by now if it wasn't for the antitrust agreement.. Microsoft will have own pretty much everything we use today, it was a time when Microsoft used to buy everything, lol
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[QUOTE="patofeo1"][QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="patofeo1"]antitrust settlement with Microsoft to expire this year, what this mean for Microsoft and the World? In an age of Apple iPhones, Google Web searches and Facebook friends, Microsoft Corp.'s control over the computer desktop through its Windows operating system might seem like last decade's monopoly. But in a statement released Wednesday, the Justice Department said it believes the landmark case that it and 19 state attorneys general brought against Microsoft in 1998 helped open the computer industry to greater competition and innovation across the technology sector. The government credits a settlement reached after years of courtroom battles with creating market conditions that have allowed all sorts of new products and services - from mobile devices to cloud computing - to challenge Microsoft's powerful Windows computing platform. Now they will let Microsoft run Wild.

What did the antitrust lawsuit do to MS exactly?

well lets see, Google, yahoo, apple will b dead by now if it wasn't for the antitrust agreement.. Microsoft will have own pretty much everything we use today, it was a time when Microsoft used to buy everything, lol

Proof?
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I'm sure little will change... it's not like Apple, Google, and other major companies havent out innovated MS in the past decade regardless.
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="patofeo1"][QUOTE="drakekratos"] What did the antitrust lawsuit do to MS exactly?

well lets see, Google, yahoo, apple will b dead by now if it wasn't for the antitrust agreement.. Microsoft will have own pretty much everything we use today, it was a time when Microsoft used to buy everything, lol

Proof?

wow,. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY Microsoft was gonna buy Apple, but after 1998 The USA told them they cant, , Microsoft was Prohibited from Buying Company's, Same way Microsoft got Skype, Microsoft would had google, and yahoo, etc.... Google would have Benn prohibited on Windows operating systems, Microsoft used to control the Internet, and what u see with you IE browser,
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I'm sure little will change... it's not like Apple, Google, and other major companies havent out innovated MS in the past decade regardless.carljohnson3456
I know, but The only reason why this company's got a chance is bcause Microsoft had a STOP sign in front of them by the Justice Department. Is if u wanna run a race but they tell you that u can only pass 7 opponents and not 15.
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#8 chewy130
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What good is the anti-trust law if microsoft is charging $300+ for software?

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What good is the anti-trust law if microsoft is charging $300+ for software?

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Microsoft got skype thsi week, is just the begining
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[QUOTE="patofeo1"][QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="patofeo1"] well lets see, Google, yahoo, apple will b dead by now if it wasn't for the antitrust agreement.. Microsoft will have own pretty much everything we use today, it was a time when Microsoft used to buy everything, lol

Proof?

wow,. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY Microsoft was gonna buy Apple, but after 1998 The USA told them they cant, , Microsoft was Prohibited from Buying Company's, Same way Microsoft got Skype, Microsoft would had google, and yahoo, etc.... Google would have Benn prohibited on Windows operating systems, Microsoft used to control the Internet, and what u see with you IE browser,

ah yes a youtube video.... :rolleyes: completely reliable.
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#11 Solquid_Snake
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So Microsoft buying Skype was the beginning of this expiration?

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#12 patofeo1
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So Microsoft buying Skype was the beginning of this expiration?

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yes, now the USA Government cant say NO to the deal, Rumors now say that Microsoft is aiming at Sprint and Samsung. 2 more company's in their pocket.
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#13 crusadernm
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Microsoft did so much for technology its amazing why people bad mouth them. People got mad when IE was bound to Windows OS. When MS did this they made browsers free. You had to purchase a web browser back in the day eg Netscape for around 200 bucks I remember. MS wanted to provide a richer experience for their OS such as a Adobe like suite but adobe threatened to sue I think and MS was stuck keeping their outdated Paint program on the OS. Lots of examples.

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so is sony next?:?

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[QUOTE="patofeo1"][QUOTE="alexside1"]Proof?alexside1
wow,. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY Microsoft was gonna buy Apple, but after 1998 The USA told them they cant, , Microsoft was Prohibited from Buying Company's, Same way Microsoft got Skype, Microsoft would had google, and yahoo, etc.... Google would have Benn prohibited on Windows operating systems, Microsoft used to control the Internet, and what u see with you IE browser,

ah yes a youtube video.... :rolleyes: completely reliable.

If you actually did your research, you'd know that Microsoft had NON-VOTING shares of Apple during the late 90s.

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Interesting, maybe they can buy my startup for millions lol.
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MS bailed out apple when they were about to go bankrupt in 1997. Now apples lover crap all over MS any chance they get. PC for life.

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MS has always bought out its competition.. either that or its done shady business to remove small time competitors. It's nothing new. MS once had a REALLY bad reputation because of it. Now they just have a reputation for bringing out one dance game after another on kinect :P I wasn't exactly happy to hear MS bought skype. I can see them introducing some ridiculous payment method. Possibly making people use it have a Windows Live/360 account and buy "points" to make calls. MS already ruined games that use Windows Live. Once upon a time MS was awesome.. back in the days of Age of Empires and Close Combat.
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[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]MS has always bought out its competition.. either that or its done shady business to remove small time competitors. It's nothing new. MS once had a REALLY bad reputation because of it. Now they just have a reputation for bringing out one dance game after another on kinect :P I wasn't exactly happy to hear MS bought skype. I can see them introducing some ridiculous payment method. Possibly making people use it have a Windows Live/360 account and buy "points" to make calls. MS already ruined games that use Windows Live. Once upon a time MS was awesome.. back in the days of Age of Empires and Close Combat.

well, now type on google, News are saying that Microsoft wants Sprint, Controling ya cell provider, giving outlook and Skype, windows smart cellphone.
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#20 chewy130
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That had nothing to do with the anti-trust settlement. They could of bought Skype before the settlement. On wiki it said the case resulted in the release of the MS OS code or something.
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Proof?alexside1

Are you serious?

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[QUOTE="chewy130"]That had nothing to do with the anti-trust settlement. They could of bought Skype before the settlement. On wiki it said the case resulted in the release of the MS OS code or something.

o god, antitrust is u cant have a monopoly, Microsoft used to control all of what we used to use on their Windows OS. b4 1998 Now we can use google, apple apps, etccc on our windows Os Now microsoft can ban all this apps if they like, since they r free from the law of 1998, buying Skype is just the beginning, Microsoft can buy Sprint and make a sprint cell provider exclusive with Skype and Office outlook with Windows os. This is monopoly, and thsi si what Microsoft was prohibit of doing, now they can do it.
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[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]MS has always bought out its competition.. either that or its done shady business to remove small time competitors. It's nothing new. MS once had a REALLY bad reputation because of it. Now they just have a reputation for bringing out one dance game after another on kinect :P I wasn't exactly happy to hear MS bought skype. I can see them introducing some ridiculous payment method. Possibly making people use it have a Windows Live/360 account and buy "points" to make calls. MS already ruined games that use Windows Live. Once upon a time MS was awesome.. back in the days of Age of Empires and Close Combat.patofeo1
well, now type on google, News are saying that Microsoft wants Sprint, Controling ya cell provider, giving outlook and Skype, windows smart cellphone.

They better not, it would probably mean the end of my (real) unlimited data plan.

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I love it that people in this thread can't give me a reliable source. (no wikis don't count)
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]Proof?glez13

Are you serious?

If you can't prove it, then don't claim it as a fact.
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nervous for sony......

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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]Proof?alexside1

Are you serious?

If you can't prove it, then don't claim it as a fact.

Studies user*

I GOT IT!

He's an apple fan. :P

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they better not buy nintendo ! i dont want my mariokart on an unreliable console or operating system lol

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nervous for sony......

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Agree. :(

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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]Proof?alexside1

Are you serious?

If you can't prove it, then don't claim it as a fact.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2011/May/11-at-601.html That good enough?

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#31 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="glez13"]

Are you serious?

Dr_Snood

If you can't prove it, then don't claim it as a fact.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2011/May/11-at-601.html That good enough?

That not what I'm referring to.
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[QUOTE="patofeo1"][QUOTE="chewy130"]That had nothing to do with the anti-trust settlement. They could of bought Skype before the settlement. On wiki it said the case resulted in the release of the MS OS code or something.

o god, antitrust is u cant have a monopoly, Microsoft used to control all of what we used to use on their Windows OS. b4 1998 Now we can use google, apple apps, etccc on our windows Os Now microsoft can ban all this apps if they like, since they r free from the law of 1998, buying Skype is just the beginning, Microsoft can buy Sprint and make a sprint cell provider exclusive with Skype and Office outlook with Windows os. This is monopoly, and thsi si what Microsoft was prohibit of doing, now they can do it.

That is NOT what MS got in trouble for. They got in trouble because they did "crazy" things like include a web browser and media player with their OS and for giving discounts and free software to their best customers, not for banning software from being installed on their system.
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[QUOTE="Dr_Snood"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] If you can't prove it, then don't claim it as a fact.alexside1

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2011/May/11-at-601.html That good enough?

That not what I'm referring to.

O yeah my bad. I don't feel like going on a goose hunt through the internet to find the answer you are actually looking for. Sorry :P.
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I'm sure little will change... it's not like Apple, Google, and other major companies havent out innovated MS in the past decade regardless.carljohnson3456
They haven't.
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#35 adamlovesu
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I'm quite sure apple has sustained it's place in the market nicely lol. Google isn't going anywhere as they own half of the Internet.Microsoft can buy whoever they want ..... Doesn't mean they can take down the two biggest forms of media and search like the could years back... Simply put times have changed.
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I'm sure little will change... it's not like Apple, Google, and other major companies havent out innovated MS in the past decade regardless.Vadamee
They haven't.

Google has crapped on ms several times ?
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Wait... So since 1998, Microsoft was not allowed to buy companies? I'm positive they've bought companies since then. Or only companies that controled a certain percentage of market share? I'm interested, tell me more because I didn't know Microsoft had restrictions put on them. :0 I'm also going to take this chance and plug a movie that everyone should take a look at called Pirates of Silicon Valley. Cool movie about the rise of Microsoft and Apple, Bill Gates and Steve jobs.
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[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"]Wait... So since 1998, Microsoft was not allowed to buy companies? I'm positive they've bought companies since then. Or only companies that controled a certain percentage of market share? I'm interested, tell me more because I didn't know Microsoft had restrictions put on them. :0 I'm also going to take this chance and plug a movie that everyone should take a look at called Pirates of Silicon Valley. Cool movie about the rise of Microsoft and Apple, Bill Gates and Steve jobs.

I believe it was they couldn't buy companies who owned a certain percent or companies who owned companies not sure which
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Wait... So since 1998, Microsoft was not allowed to buy companies? I'm positive they've bought companies since then. Or only companies that controled a certain percentage of market share? I'm interested, tell me more because I didn't know Microsoft had restrictions put on them. :0 I'm also going to take this chance and plug a movie that everyone should take a look at called Pirates of Silicon Valley. Cool movie about the rise of Microsoft and Apple, Bill Gates and Steve jobs.Not-A-Stalker

1. i saw that movie a few years back...kinda of interesting i liked it

2. There was a limit to how MUCH they can buy...i mean the fact the government stepped in is the scary part:|

yahoo put it's site up for sale for 3 days just to see what would happen.....guess which company jumped up first:lol:

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[QUOTE="patofeo1"][QUOTE="alexside1"]Proof?alexside1
wow,. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY Microsoft was gonna buy Apple, but after 1998 The USA told them they cant, , Microsoft was Prohibited from Buying Company's, Same way Microsoft got Skype, Microsoft would had google, and yahoo, etc.... Google would have Benn prohibited on Windows operating systems, Microsoft used to control the Internet, and what u see with you IE browser,

ah yes a youtube video.... :rolleyes: completely reliable.

This is all known facts. He isn't lieing to you. It is funny to me that you don't already know about all this. I am guessing you are pretty young not to know about all this happening.

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#41 Ayrtonsennna
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Well, nobody knows How much money does Microsoft has total, like Saved since they started, all we know they make the Most profits. I believe Microsoft could have more than $1 Trillion Saved, Thats' why they always offering to buy Company's. Im scare that this Prohibition is gonna end, Microsoft has been like a Tiger just waiting to attack fully, But didn't bcause of the Restriction of 1998, now that this Tiger is set free, expect Microsoft to buy Companys and start a Huge monopoly, They can take out Itunes, and google from their OS for example. Google today just announced their Notebooks, ChromeBooks, for $340, They are getting ready for the worst.
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#42 Ayrtonsennna
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Here is what M makes every year around $71.12 billion and they r being Restricted with the Law of 1998 now Multiply that number times 20 or 25, and it will give u around the $2 Trillion
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#43 RandomWinner
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Why are people arguing anti-trust is bad? That's like saying Sony should be the only player in the console market. Would the price be $300? No. Would the online work as well as it does when its not down? No. Would the games be as good? No. Competition is the best friend of consumers because if your the only one selling, you don't have anyone to fight with for the consumer's dollar. MS doesn't have the money to buy every competing company anymore. Its good to see the trust expire when its use is over. But to those of you using something besides Internet Explorer, you can bet that browser wouldn't exist without anti-trust and to those of you with Internet Explorer, you can bet it wouldn't be as good without the competition of competing browsers.

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#44 Dr_Snood
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Why are people arguing anti-trust is bad? That's like saying Sony should be the only player in the console market. Would the price be $300? No. Would the online work as well as it does when its not down? No. Would the games be as good? No. Competition is the best friend of consumers because if your the only one selling, you don't have anyone to fight with for the consumer's dollar. MS doesn't have the money to buy every competing company anymore. Its good to see the trust expire when its use is over. But to those of you using something besides Internet Explorer, you can bet that browser wouldn't exist without anti-trust and to those of you with Internet Explorer, you can bet it wouldn't be as good without the competition of competing browsers.

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Internet Explorer is good :o?
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[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"][QUOTE="patofeo1"][QUOTE="chewy130"]That had nothing to do with the anti-trust settlement. They could of bought Skype before the settlement. On wiki it said the case resulted in the release of the MS OS code or something.

o god, antitrust is u cant have a monopoly, Microsoft used to control all of what we used to use on their Windows OS. b4 1998 Now we can use google, apple apps, etccc on our windows Os Now microsoft can ban all this apps if they like, since they r free from the law of 1998, buying Skype is just the beginning, Microsoft can buy Sprint and make a sprint cell provider exclusive with Skype and Office outlook with Windows os. This is monopoly, and thsi si what Microsoft was prohibit of doing, now they can do it.

That is NOT what MS got in trouble for. They got in trouble because they did "crazy" things like include a web browser and media player with their OS and for giving discounts and free software to their best customers, not for banning software from being installed on their system.

they got in trouble for giving consumers more stuff? *mind blown*
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#46 Phazevariance
Member since 2003 • 12356 Posts
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I'm sure little will change... it's not like Apple, Google, and other major companies havent out innovated MS in the past decade regardless.patofeo1
I know, but The only reason why this company's got a chance is bcause Microsoft had a STOP sign in front of them by the Justice Department. Is if u wanna run a race but they tell you that u can only pass 7 opponents and not 15.

Again though, that was then, in todays age google and apple are heavyweights and Microsofts designs just don't compare. The antitrust was to prevent them from dominating computer OS and programs that ran on them, where as these days there are many OSes running on phones and other tech devices that MS has no chance of gaining ground on. Personally, it's almost time to put an anttrust lawsuit on one of the other big companies now.
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#47 Vadamee
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[QUOTE="Vadamee"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]I'm sure little will change... it's not like Apple, Google, and other major companies havent out innovated MS in the past decade regardless.adamlovesu
They haven't.

Google has crapped on ms several times ?

Not sure if you're asking a question or making a statement. Regardless, buying technology and repackaged it is not innovation. Google and Apple are guilty of this just as much as Microsoft and no less. If you want to expand the definition of "innovative" then go for it, but the broader the term is the more subjective it becomes subsequently. I trust Microsoft a lot more than I trust either Google or Apple. The latter two companies are on the chopping block for privacy violations on their mobile platforms as we speak. Furthermore, comparing Microsoft and Google is about as gratuitous as comparing a great white to a grizzly bear: They're two completely different beasts which are the kings of their respective environments.
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#48 Postal_Guy
Member since 2006 • 2643 Posts

Breaking news: Microsoft buys Sony!!!

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#49 HaloinventedFPS
Member since 2010 • 4738 Posts

they will ban Steam and force GFWL in Windows 8

calling it

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#50 kuraimen
Member since 2010 • 28078 Posts
If any that settlement was too favorable for M$, hopefully another settlement can be reached that will truly end their monopoly.