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#1 InsaneBasura
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Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
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#2 mattbbpl
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Hehehe. It seems like I may be the only one who likes this idea, depending on how they implement it.
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#3 thirstychainsaw
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Microsoft merging their two babies together, interesting...:|
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#4 Decko5
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sounds awsome :)
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#5 PS3_3DO
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Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
InsaneBasura

You can play that crap called Xfire or you can pay for a great service. Look at how great it is on console so you can imagine how great it will be on the PC. :)

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#6 Devil-Itachi
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Live gold account on windows?  They trying to charge PC gamers for online now?
 
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#7 Ibacai
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Personally I think the game is an affront to true Shadowrun. However, it doesn't mean the gameplay won't be fun and I do think the diligence taken with the multiplayer will pay off.
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#9 Runningflame570
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Microsoft merging their two babies together, interesting...:|thirstychainsaw
They plan to form an entertainment arc with the help of their illegally obtained software monopoly.
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#10 asdasd
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]ColoradoKindBud

And you must have missed the part that said - Xbox Live Gold Account ( on Windows PC) oh and I see you edited your post so quickly :D
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#11 gmastersexay
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[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]Live gold account on windows?  They trying to charge PC gamers for online now?
 ColoradoKindBud

You obviously missed the part in parenthesis that said, (on XBOX360).  :roll:

You obviously missed the part in parenthesis where it said, LIVE Gold Account (on WINDOWS).
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#12 Kayrod29
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[QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]Live gold account on windows? They trying to charge PC gamers for online now?
ColoradoKindBud

You obviously missed the part in parenthesis that said, (on XBOX360). :roll:

LOL read closely for self-ownage
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#13 Runningflame570
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You can play that crap called Xfire or you can pay for a great service. Look at how great it is on console so you can imagine how great it will be on the PC. :)

PS3_3DO

What is your factual basis for calling Xfire "crap"?
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#14 mattbbpl
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Just for the record, they may or may not charge for Live Gold on the PC - they're debating that. They last thing MS said on the matter was "We're looking into what they will pay for." If they do charge, no one will buy it.
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#15 Cpt_Meh
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So I'm gonna have to get a Live Gold account to play some FPS against a 360 owner? F^(& that. I love how everything is no longer free. Isn't paying $60 for a game enough? :(
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#16 thirstychainsaw
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So I'm gonna have to get a Live Gold account to play some FPS against a 360 owner? F^(& that. I love how everything is no longer free. Isn't paying $60 for a game enough? :(Cpt_Meh

Considering it took $10 million to make a game like Gears of War...maybe.
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#17 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

You can play that crap called Xfire or you can pay for a great service. Look at how great it is on console so you can imagine how great it will be on the PC. :)

Runningflame570

What is your factual basis for calling Xfire "crap"?

Ok maybe that was too strong of a statement. Xfire isn't crap but why does it need to update every few days. Anyway it can't compete with the way more powerful XBL. ;)

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#18 ColoradoKindBud
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[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]asdasd

And you must have missed the part that said - Xbox Live Gold Account ( on Windows PC) oh and I see you edited your post so quickly :D

That's what the "delete message" button is for, so that you don't have to relive your moment of humiliation over & over again.  I'll accept my ownage.  :cry:

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#19 toxicmog
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Just for the record, they may or may not charge for Live Gold on the PC - they're debating that. They last thing MS said on the matter was "We're looking into what they will pay for." If they do charge, no one will buy it.mattbbpl
Exactly :S Why pay to challenge console gamers... When you can play for free against PC gamers. Its a bad idea meh thinks.
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Its kool

 
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#21 HeHateMe_basic
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Live gold account on windows? They trying to charge PC gamers for online now?
Devil-Itachi


MS was the first to charge for software.  Windows back in the 80's.

And they will be the first big money maker when it comes to playing PC Online games. 

and the rest of the guys will follow.  They will see MS making money while they are wasting thier time hosting servers and not making a dime ,what you think they will do?  they will follow MS's lead.
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#22 Runningflame570
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MS was the first to charge for software.  Windows back in the 80's.

And they will be the first big money maker when it comes to playing PC Online games. 

and the rest of the guys will follow.  They will see MS making money while they are wasting thier time hosting servers and not making a dime ,what you think they will do?  they will follow MS's lead.
HeHateMe_basic
Meaning they'll screw PC-owners again...got it.
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#23 darklord888
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Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
InsaneBasura
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.
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Microsoft are smart business people.
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#25 magus-21
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
darklord888
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.
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#26 DGZeus
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I didn't know that companies couldn't charge for online services on PC, I guess WOW is free and so is Everquest.
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#27 darklord888
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
magus-21
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.
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OMG MS is going to try to milk us PC gamers also? Ok i had enough with ms. I am cool for paying 50 a year even though i sorta feel that it shoud be free. now i will have to pay additional for pc gaming if i decide to buy it for the pc.   And i feel sorry for pc only gamers who are going to be milked by MS, think MS is just plain out dumb to think they can milk us pc gamers when we had FPS games online for free.  SO is the this what MS meant by xbl anywhere? charge vista owners with a xbl account for the pc? this is f ing b  s
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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
darklord888
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.



If you own a XBL gold account already and your not around ur 360 you can sing onto a Vista PC and play against ur 360 buddies


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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
darklord888
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.

ew..disgusting, yuck. i won't pay to play pc games online just to play against other players using Xbox Live Gold. I'll just stick to free online pc games, HL2, CSS, BF2 ftw.
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#31 darklord888
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
-DarthVader-
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.



If you own a XBL gold account already and your not around ur 360 you can sing onto a Vista PC and play against ur 360 buddies


So if you don't have your 360, but somehow a high end pc instead you go out get another copy of shadowrun for pc, buy games for windows live gold and play with your buddies? :| How about you just wait until you're around your 360?
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#32 magus-21
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[QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
Pangster007
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.

ew..disgusting, yuck. i won't pay to play pc games online just to play against other players using Xbox Live Gold. I'll just stick to free online pc games, HL2, CSS, BF2 ftw.

This game would be aimed towards gamers who have BOTH a 360 and PC. They could use their XBL Gold accounts on both.
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#33 alfy13
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[QUOTE="Pangster007"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
magus-21
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.

ew..disgusting, yuck. i won't pay to play pc games online just to play against other players using Xbox Live Gold. I'll just stick to free online pc games, HL2, CSS, BF2 ftw.

This game would be aimed towards gamers who have BOTH a 360 and PC. They could use their XBL Gold accounts on both.

then they are loosing money if they do that then. PC gamers are the biggest FPS customers around. why would MS want to target a person who owns both 360 and pc. DOnt you thin that is a stupid move by MS? i would think so
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#34 dlind70
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I think I heard it said that when you play Shadowrun online, there will be no knowledge of who you're playing against. (PC vs PC) (360 vs 360) (360 vs PC) It won't matter since the game doesn't discriminate between platforms.  In other words: a gold account will be needed either way.  Let's just hope they anounce details at GDC.  Something that pleases everyone enough so the game is still popluar afterward.
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#35 cheezisgoooood
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Somehow the idea of forcing PC gamers to pay for something they haven't had to pay for in an FPS since the genre was made so they can play one game against console players seems really illogical...
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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="Pangster007"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
alfy13
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.

ew..disgusting, yuck. i won't pay to play pc games online just to play against other players using Xbox Live Gold. I'll just stick to free online pc games, HL2, CSS, BF2 ftw.

This game would be aimed towards gamers who have BOTH a 360 and PC. They could use their XBL Gold accounts on both.

then they are loosing money if they do that then. PC gamers are the biggest FPS customers around. why would MS want to target a person who owns both 360 and pc. DOnt you thin that is a stupid move by MS? i would think so

I think it's more a case of MS thinking, "We can do it without losing money, so let's do it." I mean, XBL is just a way to recoup losses incurred from the development and sales of 360 hardware. There's no real reason to have it on Windows other than to offer 360 owners some additional conveniences by allowing them to access and modify their account outside of their 360.
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#37 Tylendal
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So I'm gonna have to get a Live Gold account to play some FPS against a 360 owner? F^(& that. I love how everything is no longer free. Isn't paying $60 for a game enough? :(Cpt_Meh
Nah, now you also need to give them your first born child, and a promise of giving them your soul upon your death. :twisted:
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#38 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="Pangster007"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="darklord888"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
Words can't describe how unbelievably stupid this sounds. What are they thinking? Seriously. Cross-platform = DOA.
magus-21
Wait...xbox live gold on PC? It's free right? They can't be expecting any pc gamer to pay for that crap that has been free to them for like..umm..FOREVER.

I think the suggestion is that you have to have an Xbox Live Gold account to play against X360 players, but PC-vs-PC online games will still be free.

Thats kinda pointless. No one will buy it then.

ew..disgusting, yuck. i won't pay to play pc games online just to play against other players using Xbox Live Gold. I'll just stick to free online pc games, HL2, CSS, BF2 ftw.

This game would be aimed towards gamers who have BOTH a 360 and PC. They could use their XBL Gold accounts on both.

Right, so then what's the point of charging for Windows Live? No one is gonna ****ing buy it.
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#39 pins_basic
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OMG MS is going to try to milk us PC gamers also? Ok i had enough with ms. I am cool for paying 50 a year even though i sorta feel that it shoud be free. now i will have to pay additional for pc gaming if i decide to buy it for the pc. And i feel sorry for pc only gamers who are going to be milked by MS, think MS is just plain out dumb to think they can milk us pc gamers when we had FPS games online for free. SO is the this what MS meant by xbl anywhere? charge vista owners with a xbl account for the pc? this is f ing b s alfy13
You probably don't need Live to play online on PC unless you want to play vs. 360 players are just like the service. From what I have heard Xbox Live accounts work on PC, so you don't need 2 accounts.
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#40 kazrium
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I think it awesome.  I will be getting my new gaming comp just in time.   
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#41 SpruceCaboose
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Sound like everyone should play it before making judgements.
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#42 SpruceCaboose
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    Look, if you have a Gold account, you can use it. If you don't, then don't play the game online. Its really that simple.
    Believe it or not, some 360 owners who have Live actually do onw a PC and game on it.
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#43 Magical_Guy
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I didn't know that companies couldn't charge for online services on PC, I guess WOW is free and so is Everquest.DGZeus

there's a difference, mmorpg have thousands of people playing at a time, while fps are a few people.

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#44 alex1889
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Live gold account on windows?  They trying to charge PC gamers for online now?
 Devil-Itachi
i was thinking that, it seems duuumb especially as pc owners will get none of the demos ect