Think about it, they released a year earier than ps3 and wii right and now wii is ahead of it altogetherand ps3 has already beat it in areas such as japan, spain, france, italy and is outselling it weekly in europe with the NA market keeping 360ahead even selling a few thousand more than ps3 in worldwide sales weekly. The reason why i think they blew it is cause 360 will never havea year like 07where ps3 has had fewer games and no killer apps while 360 kept getting greatgames such as bioshock, gears and it's biggest exclusive halo and also mass effect,it will have great games in the future but 08 looks like sonys year mostly especially towards christmas 08 and microsofts biggest games are now out. I think they blew it cause if they put a price drop during halo 3 launch and done something else it would of hurt ps3 worldwide BADLY and could of killed it in NAbut ps3 is doing very well especially in europe and japan and if you check software sales, in individual european countries in softwareit's doing better than 360 mostly apart from UK. I just think the advantage they had over ps3 is over with ps3 getting great games from NOW onwards such as UT3, haze, uncharted, GTprologue, Mgs4, MOH and well too many to had but i mean most 360 games now will head to ps3 aswell and with ps3 getting better multplats such as Cod4 and UT3 before 360 it makes you think cause there will be no ports anymore.

Overall i think 360 could have widened the gap BIG time in sales if they had price drop by now, i think it could of even took on the wii but now 360 is holding on with the NA market and the worst is behind ps3 and from now onwards it's getting great games with a great christmas selection.I think wii will bethe winner and of course it's too early to tellbut come on, will wii sales calm down anytime soon? so i think it could of gained someground with price drop.

... did your brain implodes?angrymouse

LMAO

You can't use speculation for what you think "may" happen in the future as a supporting arguement. Considering their achievements with the first Xbox, I'd say Microsoft has done a great job with the console -RROD aside.

The only peoplethat blewitwas SONY,because they shouldn't of had to wait 2+ years to overtake a company they easily defeated.

Personally i dont think the 360 will sustain its lead over the ps3 by 2009, perhaps even in 2008. The 360 is only outselling the PS3 currently in NA. Almost every other region including most of Europe PS3 is outselling it. Now in NA the 360 is usually outselling the PS3 by not too much. If the 360 was unable to put a huge gap between it and the ps3 when it had Halo 3 and Gears and Mass Effect i dont see how it can do it when PS3 has GT5, FF 13, MGS4, LBP etc. ZeroPunctuation

Agreed, thats what i mean 360 will never have the advantage it had over ps3 like it did in 07 where 360 has so many great games and ps3 had few but from now onwards ps3 is getting better especially in the games compartment with the christmas line up pretty good

You can't use speculation for what you think "may" happen in the future as a supporting arguement. Considering their achievements with the first Xbox, I'd say Microsoft has done a great job with the console -RROD aside.

The only peoplethat blewitwas SONY,because they shouldn't of had to wait 2+ years to overtake a company they easily defeated.

Blue-Sky

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2
• Halo Wars
• Banjo-Kazooie
• Too Human
• DMC4
• Fable 2
• Fallout 3
• GTA4
• TNA Wrestling
• Lost Odssey
• Cry On
• EndWar
• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
• World in Conflict
• Army of Two
• Condemned 2
• UT3
• Left 4 Dead
• Splinter Cell 5

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

NG2Halo WarsBanjo-KazooieToo HumanFable 2Lost OdsseyCry OnDead or Alive Code: CronusAnd the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.RonnieLottinSF

Msoft has switched its release strategy and no one has even noticed. Everyone is saying they don't have any games that are coming out for 08 but at the last E3 they rolled out games that could be played this year. They will do the same next year as well. Saying that they blew their big guns is just silly. Msoft will have new IPs to carry its console. Personally I am looking forward to another Perfect Dark game, continuing Kameo, starting Too Human, and playing GTA on the cheapest next gen console around. kuu2

Exactly. MS has even hinted that many new exclusive IPs haven't even been announced yet for the system and will be in the near future. No need to announce games for 2008 or 2009, when you have bar none the best gaming lineup for 2007 when it matters.

Its the Sony who blew it.

They went from the most dominant console ever with a market share of 70% to being in last place and having a market share of 25%

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2
• Halo Wars
• Banjo-Kazooie
• Too Human
• DMC4
• Fable 2
• Fallout 3
• GTA4
• TNA Wrestling
• Lost Odssey
• Cry On
• EndWar
• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
• World in Conflict
• Army of Two
• Condemned 2
• UT3
• Left 4 Dead
• Splinter Cell 5

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.RonnieLottinSF

Halo3 , COD4 , GH III, Assasins Creed >>> all those games

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2
• Halo Wars
• Banjo-Kazooie
• Too Human
• DMC4
• Fable 2
• Fallout 3
• GTA4
• TNA Wrestling
• Lost Odssey
• Cry On
• EndWar
• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
• World in Conflict
• Army of Two
• Condemned 2
• UT3
• Left 4 Dead
• Splinter Cell 5

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.greenleaf2000

Halo3 , COD4 , GH III, Assasins Creed >>> all those games

So I guess you traveled into the future, played those games and came to this conclusion?

Think about it, they released a year earier than ps3 and wii right and now wii is ahead of it altogetherand ps3 has already beat it in areas such as japan, spain, france, italy and is outselling it weekly in europe with the NA market keeping 360ahead even selling a few thousand more than ps3 in worldwide sales weekly. The reason why i think they blew it is cause 360 will never havea year like 07where ps3 has had fewer games and no killer apps while 360 kept getting greatgames such as bioshock, gears and it's biggest exclusive halo and also mass effect,it will have great games in the future but 08 looks like sonys year mostly especially towards christmas 08 and microsofts biggest games are now out. I think they blew it cause if they put a price drop during halo 3 launch and done something else it would of hurt ps3 worldwide BADLY and could of killed it in NAbut ps3 is doing very well especially in europe and japan and if you check software sales, in individual european countries in softwareit's doing better than 360 mostly apart from UK. I just think the advantage they had over ps3 is over with ps3 getting great games from NOW onwards such as UT3, haze, uncharted, GTprologue, Mgs4, MOH and well too many to had but i mean most 360 games now will head to ps3 aswell and with ps3 getting better multplats such as Cod4 and UT3 before 360 it makes you think cause there will be no ports anymore.

Overall i think 360 could have widened the gap BIG time in sales if they had price drop by now, i think it could of even took on the wii but now 360 is holding on with the NA market and the worst is behind ps3 and from now onwards it's getting great games with a great christmas selection.I think wii will bethe winner and of course it's too early to tellbut come on, will wii sales calm down anytime soon? so i think it could of gained someground with price drop.

Paddy345

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2

lol, great game but not a system seller

• Halo Wars

umm an RTS :lol:

• Banjo-Kazooie

Is this game even anounced for next year, what ever the case the game is just not a system sellr on a platform full of FPS fans, just look at Viva Pinata

• Too Human

This game looks bad and plays bad from the videos shown

• DMC4

multiplat which is bound to do better on PS3

• Fable 2

The first one is underwhelming and so will this one

• Fallout 3

I don't even know what the hell is this game which shows its not as well known

• GTA4

lol multiplat

• TNA Wrestling

:lol:

• Lost Odssey

I can't see this game being a hit, sorry, its already failed in Japan

• Cry On

Are you sure its coming in 08 ?

• EndWar

?

• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus

lol more like 2009

• World in Conflict

yeah :?

• Army of Two

multiplat again !

• Condemned 2

another multi-plat !

• UT3

lol it's aready out on PS3 & PC

• Left 4 Dead

ok :?

• Splinter Cell 5

MGS4 FTW ! SC5 looks like Assassins creed lol

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.RonnieLottinSF

:lol: your kidding right. 2007 Microsoft released all their major titles but 2008 won't have as many guaranteed successful games.

Sir, sony didnt blow anything, you guys dont understand how this works....

Youcantmakeanewconsoleandmakeitperfectonthefirstday....youhavetotakesteps....if

youmakeyourconsolelivetoitsfullestonthefirstday, you're forgetting to do something very important....and thats leave room for innovation.

Sonyknow'swhatthey'redoingandthatwillbegintomanifestastimegoeson!

WHatmsdidwastheygavetheirnewemployee(360)...hispaycheckonhis firstdayofwork.I hope you guys understand what i mean by that metaphor....i dont need any lemmens making silly post about it neither.

you

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2

lol, great game but not a system seller

• Halo Wars

umm an RTS :lol:

• Banjo-Kazooie

Is this game even anounced for next year, what ever the case the game is just not a system sellr on a platform full of FPS fans, just look at Viva Pinata

• Too Human

This game looks bad and plays bad from the videos shown

• DMC4

multiplat which is bound to do better on PS3

• Fable 2

The first one is underwhelming and so will this one

• Fallout 3

I don't even know what the hell is this game which shows its not as well known

• GTA4

lol multiplat

• TNA Wrestling

:lol:

• Lost Odssey

I can't see this game being a hit, sorry, its already failed in Japan

• Cry On

Are you sure its coming in 08 ?

• EndWar

?

• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus

lol more like 2009

• World in Conflict

yeah :?

• Army of Two

multiplat again !

• Condemned 2

another multi-plat !

• UT3

lol it's aready out on PS3 & PC

• Left 4 Dead

ok :?

• Splinter Cell 5

MGS4 FTW ! SC5 looks like Assassins creed lol

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.Swift_Boss_A

:lol: your kidding right. 2007 Microsoft released all their major titles but 2008 won't have as many guaranteed successful games.

The fact you don't even know what Fallout 3 is means you obviously have no clue about gaming in general. The fact you said this multiplat and that multiplat will be better on the PS3 also shows your ignorance. I can't remember the last multiplat game that was better on the PS3 when compared to the 360 and when it comes to sales, it isn't even worth debating.

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2
• Halo Wars
• Banjo-Kazooie
• Too Human
• DMC4
• Fable 2
• Fallout 3
• GTA4
• TNA Wrestling
• Lost Odssey
• Cry On
• EndWar
• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
• World in Conflict
• Army of Two
• Condemned 2
• UT3
• Left 4 Dead
• Splinter Cell 5

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.RonnieLottinSF

1/2 of those games you listed are mult-plat games. microsoft will never win a console war because it's first party games ( besides halo and even it's getting old )suck. sony and nintendo have great 1st party devolopers and they make awesome games that have a broad appeal to the consumer. maybe thats why the 360 only sales in america because we love fps over here

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2

lol, great game but not a system seller

• Halo Wars

umm an RTS :lol:

• Banjo-Kazooie

Is this game even anounced for next year, what ever the case the game is just not a system sellr on a platform full of FPS fans, just look at Viva Pinata

• Too Human

This game looks bad and plays bad from the videos shown

• DMC4

multiplat which is bound to do better on PS3

• Fable 2

The first one is underwhelming and so will this one

• Fallout 3

I don't even know what the hell is this game which shows its not as well known

• GTA4

lol multiplat

• TNA Wrestling

:lol:

• Lost Odssey

I can't see this game being a hit, sorry, its already failed in Japan

• Cry On

Are you sure its coming in 08 ?

• EndWar

?

• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus

lol more like 2009

• World in Conflict

yeah :?

• Army of Two

multiplat again !

• Condemned 2

another multi-plat !

• UT3

lol it's aready out on PS3 & PC

• Left 4 Dead

ok :?

• Splinter Cell 5

MGS4 FTW ! SC5 looks like Assassins creed lol

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.RonnieLottinSF

:lol: your kidding right. 2007 Microsoft released all their major titles but 2008 won't have as many guaranteed successful games.

The fact you don't even know what Fallout 3 is means you obviously have no clue about gaming in general. The fact you said this multiplat and that multiplat will be better on the PS3 also shows your ignorance. I can't remember the last multiplat game that was better on the PS3 when compared to the 360 and when it comes to sales, it isn't even worth debating.

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

[QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Think about it, they released a year earier than ps3 and wii right and now wii is ahead of it altogetherand ps3 has already beat it in areas such as japan, spain, france, italy and is outselling it weekly in europe with the NA market keeping 360ahead even selling a few thousand more than ps3 in worldwide sales weekly. The reason why i think they blew it is cause 360 will never havea year like 07where ps3 has had fewer games and no killer apps while 360 kept getting greatgames such as bioshock, gears and it's biggest exclusive halo and also mass effect,it will have great games in the future but 08 looks like sonys year mostly especially towards christmas 08 and microsofts biggest games are now out. I think they blew it cause if they put a price drop during halo 3 launch and done something else it would of hurt ps3 worldwide BADLY and could of killed it in NAbut ps3 is doing very well especially in europe and japan and if you check software sales, in individual european countries in softwareit's doing better than 360 mostly apart from UK. I just think the advantage they had over ps3 is over with ps3 getting great games from NOW onwards such as UT3, haze, uncharted, GTprologue, Mgs4, MOH and well too many to had but i mean most 360 games now will head to ps3 aswell and with ps3 getting better multplats such as Cod4 and UT3 before 360 it makes you think cause there will be no ports anymore.

Overall i think 360 could have widened the gap BIG time in sales if they had price drop by now, i think it could of even took on the wii but now 360 is holding on with the NA market and the worst is behind ps3 and from now onwards it's getting great games with a great christmas selection.I think wii will bethe winner and of course it's too early to tellbut come on, will wii sales calm down anytime soon? so i think it could of gained someground with price drop.

awsss

no its not core 360 = 279.99 nintendo wii = 249.99

They are probably going to have shipped 19 to 20 million units in 2 years by the end of December so how did they blow it again?RonnieLottinSF

19 to 20 million thats a bit much, don't you think. they haven't even made it to 15 million. there not going to sell that many in 2 weeks. even if it is shipped.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2
• Halo Wars
• Banjo-Kazooie
• Too Human
• DMC4
• Fable 2
• Fallout 3
• GTA4
• TNA Wrestling
• Lost Odssey
• Cry On
• EndWar
• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
• World in Conflict
• Army of Two
• Condemned 2
• UT3
• Left 4 Dead
• Splinter Cell 5

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.patrickjw333

1/2 of those games you listed are mult-plat games. microsoft will never win a console war because it's first party games ( besides halo and even it's getting old )suck. sony and nintendo have great 1st party devolopers and they make awesome games that have a broad appeal to the consumer. maybe thats why the 360 only sales in america because we love fps over here

What 1st party game that Sony pubs or develops besides God of War and the GT series that actually sales? And they are already killing Sony in terms of console and software sales. Devs and pubs take notice. If you want your 3rd party game to sell great, put it on the 360. This is why Sony has already lost a ton of exclusive 3rd party games. Why put your game on the PS3 when it is a guaranteed 1 million seller on the 360?

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]They are probably going to have shipped 19 to 20 million units in 2 years by the end of December so how did they blow it again?jessie5788

19 to 20 million thats a bit much, don't you think. they haven't even made it to 15 million. there not going to sell that many in 2 weeks. even if it is shipped.

How do you figure? Last year for Q4 2006 MS shipped 4.4 million units WW. MS, before Q4 of this year, had shipped 13.4 million. If they just match last years mark, the 360 will be up around 18 million shipped WW to end 2007. Of course sales are up across the board for MS starting back in August, not only in America, but WW. MS will probably ship 5 to 6 million units easy for Q4 this year, meaning they will be in the 19 to 20 million area to end the year. It is very simple math IMO.

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

ovechkin08

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

[QUOTE="jessie5788"]

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]They are probably going to have shipped 19 to 20 million units in 2 years by the end of December so how did they blow it again?RonnieLottinSF

19 to 20 million thats a bit much, don't you think. they haven't even made it to 15 million. there not going to sell that many in 2 weeks. even if it is shipped.

How do you figure? Last year for Q4 2006 MS shipped 4.4 million units WW. MS, before Q4 of this year, had shipped 13.4 million. If they just match last years mark, the 360 will be up around 18 million shipped WW to end 2007. Of course sales are up across the board for MS starting back in August, not only in America, but WW. MS will probably ship 5 to 6 million units easy for Q4 this year, meaning they will be in the 19 to 20 million area to end the year. It is very simple math IMO.

ms claimed to have 11.6 in july or sometime around that time. there no way they will make it past 16 million this year, sure they had halo and sold alot in america but the sales even out when you had world wide totals. They didn't sale much this year. If ms were to claim that they shipped19-20 million no one would believe this. there just flooding the market making it seem like there the winners again just like last year. .

So how many exclusives does Sony have that don't have the number 2-13 behind the name?

My point is, Sony is selling you the same old $*** with a prettier wrapper. MS excels at new IPs.

[QUOTE="ovechkin08"]

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

RonnieLottinSF

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

a multiplat is a multiplat. you need to mention the exclusives because only an exclusive game will make the system look appealing, PS3 has better exclusives then 360 next year

Sir, sony didnt blow anything, you guys dont understand how this works....

Youcantmakeanewconsoleandmakeitperfectonthefirstday....youhavetotakesteps....if

youmakeyourconsolelivetoitsfullestonthefirstday, you're forgetting to do something very important....and thats leave room for innovation.

Sonyknow'swhatthey'redoingandthatwillbegintomanifestastimegoeson!

WHatmsdidwastheygavetheirnewemployee(360)...hispaycheckonhis firstdayofwork.I hope you guys understand what i mean by that metaphor....i dont need any lemmens making silly post about it neither.

you

SOLID_SOULJA

yea itsv kinda like the Vista, its slowly getting better and all of the bugs are getting solved

So how many exclusives does Sony have that don't have the number 2-13 behind the name?

My point is, Sony is selling you the same old $*** with a prettier wrapper. MS excels at new IPs.

DarthKalo

Uncharted, eye of judgement, heavenly sword, lair, reistance, folklore, motorstorm and many more, don't be ignorant, both ps3 and 360 have new ip's out and coming out, that was just a silly comment

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2

lol, great game but not a system seller

• Halo Wars

umm an RTS :lol:

• Banjo-Kazooie

Is this game even anounced for next year, what ever the case the game is just not a system sellr on a platform full of FPS fans, just look at Viva Pinata

• Too Human

This game looks bad and plays bad from the videos shown

• DMC4

multiplat which is bound to do better on PS3

• Fable 2

The first one is underwhelming and so will this one

• Fallout 3

I don't even know what the hell is this game which shows its not as well known

• GTA4

lol multiplat

• TNA Wrestling

:lol:

• Lost Odssey

I can't see this game being a hit, sorry, its already failed in Japan

• Cry On

Are you sure its coming in 08 ?

• EndWar

?

• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus

lol more like 2009

• World in Conflict

yeah :?

• Army of Two

multiplat again !

• Condemned 2

another multi-plat !

• UT3

lol it's aready out on PS3 & PC

• Left 4 Dead

ok :?

• Splinter Cell 5

MGS4 FTW ! SC5 looks like Assassins creed lol

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.Swift_Boss_A

:lol: your kidding right. 2007 Microsoft released all their major titles but 2008 won't have as many guaranteed successful games.

HAHA! You don't know Fallout 3? You fail.

So how many exclusives does Sony have that don't have the number 2-13 behind the name?

My point is, Sony is selling you the same old $*** with a prettier wrapper. MS excels at new IPs.

DarthKalo

Actually sony has had the most new IP's since 2000 so that not a valid statement

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="jessie5788"]

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]They are probably going to have shipped 19 to 20 million units in 2 years by the end of December so how did they blow it again?jessie5788

19 to 20 million thats a bit much, don't you think. they haven't even made it to 15 million. there not going to sell that many in 2 weeks. even if it is shipped.

How do you figure? Last year for Q4 2006 MS shipped 4.4 million units WW. MS, before Q4 of this year, had shipped 13.4 million. If they just match last years mark, the 360 will be up around 18 million shipped WW to end 2007. Of course sales are up across the board for MS starting back in August, not only in America, but WW. MS will probably ship 5 to 6 million units easy for Q4 this year, meaning they will be in the 19 to 20 million area to end the year. It is very simple math IMO.

ms claimed to have 11.6 in july or sometime around that time. there no way they will make it past 16 million this year, sure they had halo and sold alot in america but the sales even out when you had world wide totals. They didn't sale much this year. If ms were to claim that they shipped19-20 million no one would believe this. there just flooding the market making it seem like there the winners again just like last year. .

You can't lie on end of year, quarter or end of fiscal year reports because if caught you will go to jail. I can't help it that you can't do simple math. Fact remains, sales to customers = UP A TON for this year when compared to last year meaning it won't shock any one if MS ships more units for Q4 of this year than last year. If no one was buying the systems, stores would stop their orders. The rules of supply and demand 101.

Also the last Q report which ended in September showed MS had shipped 13.4 million overall since the launch. The year before they shipped 4.4 million for Q4. 13.4 + 4.4 = 17.8 million shipped overall. Of course MS will more then likely ship more than 4.4 million this year because the demand for the console has sky rocketed since August.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ovechkin08"]

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

Swift_Boss_A

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

a multiplat is a multiplat. you need to mention the exclusives because only an exclusive game will make the system look appealing, PS3 has better exclusives then 360 next year

You don't even know what Fallout 3 is so your opinion is null and void.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ovechkin08"]

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

Swift_Boss_A

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

a multiplat is a multiplat. you need to mention the exclusives because only an exclusive game will make the system look appealing, PS3 has better exclusives then 360 next year

I'm sorry but when the 360 version of COD4 sells 1.5 million and the PS3 version sells 400K you can't say "a multiplat is a multiplat".. because clearly that Multiplat benifited the 360 the most. Same with GH3, Same with Rock Band, Same with Assasin's creed, Same with Madden 08 ect..ect..

You cows try and down play the 360's 08 lineup because it has alot of multiplats compared to the PS3's lineup. Well take these things into consideration.

The 360 versions of multiplats ALWAYS outsell the PS3 versions.. So what will make DMC4, GTAVI, Army of Two ect.. any different?

The 360 is still cheaper than the PS3 and once the holiday rush is over with who knows how much they will sell.

Don't discredit the power of new I.P's.. As stated earlier the 360 version of AC sold close to a million units in one month! Who's to say that Fable 2, Or Ninja Gaiden, Or Too Human won't do the same..

There are far too many variables you cows are ignoring and are just giving 2k8 to the PS3... You may be shocked at the truth when it unfolds.

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ovechkin08"]

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

OhSnapitz

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

a multiplat is a multiplat. you need to mention the exclusives because only an exclusive game will make the system look appealing, PS3 has better exclusives then 360 next year

I'm sorry but when the 360 version of COD4 sells 1.5 million and the PS3 version sells 400K you can't say "a multiplat is a multiplat".. because clearly that Multiplat benifited the 360 the most. Same with GH3, Same with Rock Band, Same with Assasin's creed, Same with Madden 08 ect..ect..

You cows try and down play the 360's 08 lineup because it has alot of multiplats compared to the PS3's lineup. Well take these things into consideration.

The 360 versions of multiplats ALWAYS outsell the PS3 versions.. So what will make DMC4, GTAVI, Army of Two ect.. any different?

The 360 is still cheaper than the PS3 and once the holiday rush is over with who knows how much they will sell.

Don't discredit the power of new I.P's.. As stated earlier the 360 version of AC sold close to a million units in one month! Who's to say that Fable 2, Or Ninja Gaiden, Or Too Human won't do the same..

There are far too many variables you cows are ignoring and are just giving 2k8 to the PS3... You may be shocked at the truth when it unfolds.

Exactly. A multiplat isn't just a multiplat when it sells more than double on its platform than the competition. Hell Madden this year sold more copies on the 360 than the PS3, PS2 and Wii combined.

Any way the PS3 really isn't even in the mix right now, unless you want to start a GBA vs. PS3 thread or maybe PS2 vs. PS3 thread. The 360 and Wii are owning everything right now. The 360 is killing in software sales, especially from 3rd parties which could be a killer in the future considering that means said 3rd party exclusives will go the 360 way eventually, while other 3rd party pubs and devs will make more exclusives for the console than any other. The Wii of course is selling great console wise and its own software, but cutting their own throats with the supply issue.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

The 360 has arguably a better 2008 gaming lineup than 2007.

• NG2

lol, great game but not a system seller

• Halo Wars

umm an RTS :lol:

• Banjo-Kazooie

Is this game even anounced for next year, what ever the case the game is just not a system sellr on a platform full of FPS fans, just look at Viva Pinata

• Too Human

This game looks bad and plays bad from the videos shown

• DMC4

multiplat which is bound to do better on PS3

• Fable 2

The first one is underwhelming and so will this one

• Fallout 3

I don't even know what the hell is this game which shows its not as well known

• GTA4

lol multiplat

• TNA Wrestling

:lol:

• Lost Odssey

I can't see this game being a hit, sorry, its already failed in Japan

• Cry On

Are you sure its coming in 08 ?

• EndWar

?

• Dead or Alive Code: Cronus

lol more like 2009

• World in Conflict

yeah :?

• Army of Two

multiplat again !

• Condemned 2

another multi-plat !

• UT3

lol it's aready out on PS3 & PC

• Left 4 Dead

ok :?

• Splinter Cell 5

MGS4 FTW ! SC5 looks like Assassins creed lol

And the list goes on and on. Sure some of those games are multiplat, but we all know which system they will sell the most on.Swift_Boss_A

you dont know what fallout is? so much for your entire post

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ovechkin08"]

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

OhSnapitz

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

a multiplat is a multiplat. you need to mention the exclusives because only an exclusive game will make the system look appealing, PS3 has better exclusives then 360 next year

I'm sorry but when the 360 version of COD4 sells 1.5 million and the PS3 version sells 400K you can't say "a multiplat is a multiplat".. because clearly that Multiplat benifited the 360 the most. Same with GH3, Same with Rock Band, Same with Assasin's creed, Same with Madden 08 ect..ect..

You cows try and down play the 360's 08 lineup because it has alot of multiplats compared to the PS3's lineup. Well take these things into consideration.

The 360 versions of multiplats ALWAYS outsell the PS3 versions.. So what will make DMC4, GTAVI, Army of Two ect.. any different?

The 360 is still cheaper than the PS3 and once the holiday rush is over with who knows how much they will sell.

Don't discredit the power of new I.P's.. As stated earlier the 360 version of AC sold close to a million units in one month! Who's to say that Fable 2, Or Ninja Gaiden, Or Too Human won't do the same..

There are far too many variables you cows are ignoring and are just giving 2k8 to the PS3... You may be shocked at the truth when it unfolds.

You have completelty missed the point, the consumer isn't going to say oh well look a game sells more on 360 than what it does on ps3 so lets buy the 360 version, most of them won't know and don't care. The fact is people will be more attracted to ps3 if games that are good are ONLY on ps3 and same for 360 so what i'm saying is 360 will never have the advantage they had over ps3 like 07 since ps3 is getting great game from now onwards and some great exclusives and timed console exclusives

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ovechkin08"]

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

OhSnapitz

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

a multiplat is a multiplat. you need to mention the exclusives because only an exclusive game will make the system look appealing, PS3 has better exclusives then 360 next year

I'm sorry but when the 360 version of COD4 sells 1.5 million and the PS3 version sells 400K you can't say "a multiplat is a multiplat".. because clearly that Multiplat benifited the 360 the most. Same with GH3, Same with Rock Band, Same with Assasin's creed, Same with Madden 08 ect..ect..

You cows try and down play the 360's 08 lineup because it has alot of multiplats compared to the PS3's lineup. Well take these things into consideration.

The 360 versions of multiplats ALWAYS outsell the PS3 versions.. So what will make DMC4, GTAVI, Army of Two ect.. any different?

The 360 is still cheaper than the PS3 and once the holiday rush is over with who knows how much they will sell.

Don't discredit the power of new I.P's.. As stated earlier the 360 version of AC sold close to a million units in one month! Who's to say that Fable 2, Or Ninja Gaiden, Or Too Human won't do the same..

yeah a year head start will do that you know :roll:

next year the playing field will be level and you wont see the 360 versions of multiplat games selling double the PS3 version. PS3 has plenty of great exclusives which will make the PS3 the definitive purchase next year.

oh and :lol: and lemmings to bring up multiplat games because they don't have the exclusives worth mentioning like the PS3 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="ovechkin08"]

Fallout 3 is multiplat anyways..

RonnieLottinSF

And it will be better and sell more on the 360 and PC.

a multiplat is a multiplat. you need to mention the exclusives because only an exclusive game will make the system look appealing, PS3 has better exclusives then 360 next year

I'm sorry but when the 360 version of COD4 sells 1.5 million and the PS3 version sells 400K you can't say "a multiplat is a multiplat".. because clearly that Multiplat benifited the 360 the most. Same with GH3, Same with Rock Band, Same with Assasin's creed, Same with Madden 08 ect..ect..

You cows try and down play the 360's 08 lineup because it has alot of multiplats compared to the PS3's lineup. Well take these things into consideration.

The 360 versions of multiplats ALWAYS outsell the PS3 versions.. So what will make DMC4, GTAVI, Army of Two ect.. any different?

The 360 is still cheaper than the PS3 and once the holiday rush is over with who knows how much they will sell.

Don't discredit the power of new I.P's.. As stated earlier the 360 version of AC sold close to a million units in one month! Who's to say that Fable 2, Or Ninja Gaiden, Or Too Human won't do the same..

There are far too many variables you cows are ignoring and are just giving 2k8 to the PS3... You may be shocked at the truth when it unfolds.

Exactly. A multiplat isn't just a multiplat when it sells more than double on its platform than the competition. Hell Madden this year sold more copies on the 360 than the PS3, PS2 and Wii combined.

Any way the PS3 really isn't even in the mix right now, unless you want to start a GBA vs. PS3 thread or maybe PS2 vs. PS3 thread. The 360 and Wii are owning everything right now. The 360 is killing in software sales, especially from 3rd parties which could be a killer in the future considering that means said 3rd party exclusives will go the 360 way eventually, while other 3rd party pubs and devs will make more exclusives for the console than any other. The Wii of course is selling great console wise and its own software, but cutting their own throats with the supply issue.

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But in europe it's the opposite with ps3 doing better in software

I wish i knew how to use paragraphs like you...lol

AS for that Even at the current sales ps3 will never surpass the 360 because of the year head start, Ps3 will have to start selling over and above and 360 will have to start selling less for that to happen.