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#1  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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The Microsoft Build was a 4 day tech conference. We have already seen the live demo of The Cloud power in action highlighting how The Xbox One will benefit from this.

Here is a nice read on how DX12 will double GPU performance and give devs the tools to utilize this Powaz.

http://www.neowin.net/news/directx-12-a-game-changer-for-xbox-one

Couple DX12 with the Cloud?........................The possibilities are endless.

Enjoy!

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#2  Edited By lglz1337
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omg here we go again The Cloud is the new god, is like people hang on something so they are able to move forward.

internet today is not ready for this crap Valve did this ages ago

delusional fanboys think da cloud and dx12 will transform a lada into a ferarri... LMAO

keep on dreaming!

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#3 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

omg here we go again The Cloud is the new god

Thanks for not reading the Link. I mentioned the cloud. The link is about something else but im already done holding your hand.

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#4  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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some other helpful info for those interested in world domination.

http://www.neowin.net/news/tags/build_2014

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/events/build/

MUST SEE http://n4g.com/news/1487593/xbox-one-will-double-performance-with-directx12

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#5 lglz1337
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@FoxbatAlpha: so why bring up this cloud crap ?

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#6 FoxbatAlpha
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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha: so why bring up this cloud crap ?

SMH oh Christ. Why not read the link? Once you familiarize what DX12 will do then picture the two technologies merging. It is beyond insane.

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#7 SecretPolice
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The One, the most sophisticated VG console to evah come down the pike and with the clouds gathering creating the Perfect Storm combining good hardware & stellar software, the skies the limit. :P

Halo 5 will make you.... Believe !! :D

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#8 Krelian-co
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never seen so much bs and lies in one post.

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#9 blamix99
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power of the cloud coming 2025

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#10 FoxbatAlpha
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@Krelian-co said:

never seen so much bs and lies in one post.

bu, bu 50% more power! You bought into that shit hook, line and sinker didn't ya? LOL taking what a indie dev says as something true.

Shame on you Krillin.

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#11  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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I don't believe in any talk about the future power, etc. And I also don't believe in such a quantum leap coming only from DX12 alone. It means NOTHING to me, however what I do know about Microsoft is that they constantly try to improve their services and this is never a bad thing. Of course several features should have been included from the get-go, but then again PS4 had the same problem.

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@lglz1337 said:

omg here we go again The Cloud is the new god, is like people hang on something so they are able to move forward.

internet today is not ready for this crap Valve did this ages ago

I am sure of something xbox one owners are really hurt by MS making a weak consoles,is like they can't stand been behind graphics wise..hahaha Even less by such a gap.

I am sure that if you ask every xbox one owner if they would prefer the xbox one as it is now with Kinect and HDMI or a xbox one with a stronger GPU without Kinect and HDMI crap they will pick the latter,seeing them pretend here that they like what MS has done with the xbox one is a joke,they can't stop with the secret sauce and crap like that.

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sad to be a X1 owner, they're always waiting for this secret sauce trying to catch up with the PS4

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#14 Salt_The_Fries
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I'd be happy to own X1 as it is, I don't hope nor believe in any secret sauce. Things will get better eventually to the level of 95% of parity with PS4 (see - I openly admit hardware deficiencies) but I don't expect a quantum leap.

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#15 Krelian-co
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@Krelian-co said:

never seen so much bs and lies in one post.

bu, bu 50% more power! You bought into that shit hook, line and sinker didn't ya? LOL taking what a indie dev says as something true.

Shame on you Krillin.

nah it's better to keep advertising he already proven fake video of the cloud and directx 12 "double" performance which anyone with half neurone would know is not possible. Keep dreaming crappy hardware will stop being terrible because some magic word microsoft tells you.

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#16 Krelian-co
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

I'd be happy to own X1 as it is, I don't hope nor believe in any secret sauce. Things will get better eventually to the level of 95% of parity with PS4 (see - I openly admit hardware deficiencies) but I don't expect a quantum leap.

i would say more about 80% parity.

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#17 tdkmillsy
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@blamix99 said:

sad to be a X1 owner, they're always waiting for this secret sauce trying to catch up with the PS4

Sad to be a PS4 owner, they're always waiting for games :)

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#18  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@Krelian-co said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

I'd be happy to own X1 as it is, I don't hope nor believe in any secret sauce. Things will get better eventually to the level of 95% of parity with PS4 (see - I openly admit hardware deficiencies) but I don't expect a quantum leap.

i would say more about 80% parity.

Somewhere between 80% and 95% I think. But in the real world multiplats will be close enough for it not to be a factor. They will both be competing on the same old stuff. Exclusives, Services and general fanboyness (people like what they like).

I like the fact Kinect is included, consoles cant compete with PC and need to stand out in other ways. If there was no Kinect PS4 and Xbox One would be the same and still weaker than PC.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

The Microsoft Build was a 4 day tech conference. We have already seen the live demo of The Cloud power in action highlighting how The Xbox One will benefit from this.

Here is a nice read on how DX12 will double GPU performance and give devs the tools to utilize this Powaz.

http://www.neowin.net/news/directx-12-a-game-changer-for-xbox-one

Couple DX12 with the Cloud?........................The possibilities are endless.

Enjoy!

Exciting for X1 owners... but the problem with system wars is that most people who post here are fan boys with blinders. This forum community is turning into a joke. If you want to have a real conversation about it head to neogaf or something. The only replies you'll get here are from butt hurt idiots.

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#20 Suppaman100
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LOL foxbatloser thread

@blamix99 said:

sad to be a X1 owner, they're always waiting for this secret sauce trying to catch up with the PS4

Indeed.

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#21 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Hardware is what hardware is....the sooner you accept that foxbat....the better for you. There is no magic that is going to change the components of the X1.

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#22  Edited By blamix99
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@tdkmillsy said:

@blamix99 said:

sad to be a X1 owner, they're always waiting for this secret sauce trying to catch up with the PS4

Sad to be a PS4 owner, they're always waiting for games :)

LOL your the ones who are waiting.. you guys have been waiting for a very long time now since the Xbox360 got abandoned back 2011. all you guys got is Halo 4 and Gears of War Judgement that flopped so bad. even now you guys still don't have a big exclusive with the X1

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#23 Heil68
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cloud(lol). Just give me exclusives MS, dont need to try a feeble attempt to top SONY who has the world's most powerful video game console to have ever been created in the history of video games.

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#24 misterpmedia
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Looks like MS is doing a good job at saving people's money lately. With all this talk about long away updates a future progression one might as well wait until the bone has finished beta testing with the early adopters and pick one up 2016+ when it's settled down and become competent.

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@lglz1337 said:

@FoxbatAlpha: so why bring up this cloud crap ?

Probably cause MS is finally talking about it in greater detail and showing off tech demos, meaning however they intend to implement it, its coming. Its a good read. Of course you gotta actually show it running in game in real-time. That's a the true test, but that conference was a shit-load of info that wasn't out there until now.

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#27 Dilrod
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@tdkmillsy: I have 12 games for my ps4 and 4 for my xbox 1. This is the dumbest argument out there.

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@FastRobby said:

@blamix99 said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@blamix99 said:

sad to be a X1 owner, they're always waiting for this secret sauce trying to catch up with the PS4

Sad to be a PS4 owner, they're always waiting for games :)

LOL your the ones who are waiting.. you guys have been waiting for a very long time now since the Xbox360 got abandoned back 2011. all you guys got is Halo 4 and Gears of War Judgement that flopped so bad. even now you guys still don't have a big exclusive with the X1

There isn't one game worth buying a PS4 for. Infamous? Give me a break, it has an average score of 80. Titanfall is a system seller, not an exclusive, but the best service is on Xbox One, not on PC.

You do know gaming taste is subjective....right? What a stupid argument.

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At best X1 will have multiplats that perform like most PS3 ones used to, like Read Dead Redemption.

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#31 Salt_The_Fries
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At best X1 will have multiplats that perform like most PS3 ones used to, like Read Dead Redemption.

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@FastRobby said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@FastRobby said:

@blamix99 said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@blamix99 said:

sad to be a X1 owner, they're always waiting for this secret sauce trying to catch up with the PS4

Sad to be a PS4 owner, they're always waiting for games :)

LOL your the ones who are waiting.. you guys have been waiting for a very long time now since the Xbox360 got abandoned back 2011. all you guys got is Halo 4 and Gears of War Judgement that flopped so bad. even now you guys still don't have a big exclusive with the X1

There isn't one game worth buying a PS4 for. Infamous? Give me a break, it has an average score of 80. Titanfall is a system seller, not an exclusive, but the best service is on Xbox One, not on PC.

You do know gaming taste is subjective....right? What a stupid argument.

You do know that metacritic has an average consensus from multiple sites, so it's a good way of measuring products? So yeah, sure people can love playing a game that has a rating of 1 on average, but also on average, most So eople will think it's shit.

So then you don't know that. FYI seem you seem confused...review scores are also opinions. In fact.....score is only important if you are looking at a 3 vs 7 or some such. Anything that is at least 7.....possibly 6 for fans of a genre/series....is playable. So don't act like minor metacritic averages really matter to the enjoyment of a game.

It's silly to use scores as the games to play.....experiment with the games that aren't 9 or 10....you might have more fun.

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#33  Edited By ccagracing
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These new DX12 code sets and instructions will make the Xbox quicker, no doubt about it, however certainly not double the speed or anything like it.

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#34  Edited By Krelian-co
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@ccagracing said:

These new DX12 code sets and instructions will make the Xbox quicker, no doubt about it, however certainly not double the speed or anything like it.

directx 12 is a direct counter to amd's mantle it will be good for pc but consoles already have to metal coding so it won't see much improvement. As for the "cloud" video was already proven fake, also not hard to make a demo like that if you have a server with 0 ping in the next room but in the real world most people have pings of around 100 that makes impossible any kind of 3d processing in real time between servers and consoles.

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#35 Animal-Mother
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Sorry foxbat but that cloud video you showed us once again is smoke and mirrors. IE a load of horseshit.

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#36  Edited By Tighaman
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fox its sad that people dont read no more than the title of your post and start comment on it, theres plenty of links that show why dx11 is a problem with balance work across each thread and how dx12 is fixing that,NVIDIA showed cloud rendering about ayear ago but they need to pretend like ms dont have the brains to pull it off, dualshockers.com really goes in dept on whats changing in dx12 what the xbox is using right now out of dx12 and what else about dx12 that coming to the xbox.

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#37 Solid_Max13
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@FoxbatAlpha: I did read the article and I can say that MS is being completely wish-washy of DX12 on XB1 as well as the cloud, the article goes into no detail just about what MS PR is saying and how it will help and revolutionize gaming and other things, which I don't doubt the only issue is when it comes toXbox they completely dodge the question of what will Dx12 do for Xb1, and only answers that have come up are "XB1 will have some type of DX12 integration" but it's pretty much a just wait game to see what they're going to do, even with the cloud, it's great tech but to show off demo after demo and say a bunch of PR bs before it's actually ready helps nothing.

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#38 dreamdude
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Like most things of this sort. I'll believe it when I see it in a game.

This is just like the cows last gen singing about the untapped power of the cell.

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@FastRobby said:

@Krelian-co said:

@ccagracing said:

These new DX12 code sets and instructions will make the Xbox quicker, no doubt about it, however certainly not double the speed or anything like it.

directx 12 is a direct counter to amd's mantle it will be good for pc but consoles already have to metal coding so it won't see much improvement. As for the "cloud" video was already proven fake, also not hard to make a demo like that if you have a server with 0 ping in the next room but in the real world most people have pings of around 100 that makes impossible any kind of 3d processing in real time between servers and consoles.

Link me for prove that the cloud video was fake

you can search the thread yourself lazy ahole.

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@FastRobby said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@FastRobby said:

@blamix99 said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@blamix99 said:

sad to be a X1 owner, they're always waiting for this secret sauce trying to catch up with the PS4

Sad to be a PS4 owner, they're always waiting for games :)

LOL your the ones who are waiting.. you guys have been waiting for a very long time now since the Xbox360 got abandoned back 2011. all you guys got is Halo 4 and Gears of War Judgement that flopped so bad. even now you guys still don't have a big exclusive with the X1

There isn't one game worth buying a PS4 for. Infamous? Give me a break, it has an average score of 80. Titanfall is a system seller, not an exclusive, but the best service is on Xbox One, not on PC.

You do know gaming taste is subjective....right? What a stupid argument.

You do know that metacritic has an average consensus from multiple sites, so it's a good way of measuring products? So yeah, sure people can love playing a game that has a rating of 1 on average, but also on average, most people will think it's shit.

MC is the cancer of the video games industry and this post proves it.

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@FastRobby said:

@Krelian-co said:

@ccagracing said:

These new DX12 code sets and instructions will make the Xbox quicker, no doubt about it, however certainly not double the speed or anything like it.

directx 12 is a direct counter to amd's mantle it will be good for pc but consoles already have to metal coding so it won't see much improvement. As for the "cloud" video was already proven fake, also not hard to make a demo like that if you have a server with 0 ping in the next room but in the real world most people have pings of around 100 that makes impossible any kind of 3d processing in real time between servers and consoles.

Link me for prove that the cloud video was fake

They have yet to show that it actually does anything major. So the burden of proof is on the people that claim it in the first place, just like people who think god is real and insist others should think so too.

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#45  Edited By silversix_
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Was the tech conference in 720p?

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#46 ccagracing
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@Krelian-co I concur its a counter to AMD mantle, however much is gained from mantle or dx12 on any format remains to be seen. I don't think significant gains will be made until the game engines fully support all the dx12 features and of course until the developers get to grips with new coding methods for it. The way I read the official statements is that DX12 will allow the developers to use multiple cores and threads in tandem as opposes to one core doing all the heavy lifting.

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#48  Edited By Krelian-co
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@FastRobby said:

@trasherhead said:

@FastRobby said:

@Krelian-co said:

@ccagracing said:

These new DX12 code sets and instructions will make the Xbox quicker, no doubt about it, however certainly not double the speed or anything like it.

directx 12 is a direct counter to amd's mantle it will be good for pc but consoles already have to metal coding so it won't see much improvement. As for the "cloud" video was already proven fake, also not hard to make a demo like that if you have a server with 0 ping in the next room but in the real world most people have pings of around 100 that makes impossible any kind of 3d processing in real time between servers and consoles.

Link me for prove that the cloud video was fake

They have yet to show that it actually does anything major. So the burden of proof is on the people that claim it in the first place, just like people who think god is real and insist others should think so too.

Well a lot over tech guys and developers were impressed, so maybe it just same old internet that is being a d*ck?

actually no, it is a big deal, FOR PC, consoles do this already for the most part and the ps4 will get optimized in the same fashion too, the winrar of directx 12 and mantle is pc.

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Typical SW community bashing poor Foxbat without reading the article.

Microsoft are progressively working on hardware, constantly pouring out updates and even putting better people in charge. (COWS wanted to count on Elop lol I'll bet the asshurt is insane now) If anyone's dumb enough to think the X1's DX12/Cloud combination is not gonna work...then I'd say there's lint floating around that fishbowl.

Remember, Microsoft said the X1 is "future proof". It's not about outperforming the PS4; it's about remaining consistent with the times ahead.

This is a much better scenario than the PS3's 3-5 year stretch of weak hardware and Cellz tbh.