Microsoft Considered Acquiring Crytek as a First-Party Developer

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8899-Microsoft-Considered-Acquiring-Crytek-as-a-First-Party-Developer.html

This would certainly shake things up in SW. What do you guys think about this? Will MS pull the trigger and acquire them seeing as how they are making Ryse now exclusively for xbox? Is Timesplitters 4 going to be a nextbox exclusive launch title!?

It said they thought about it. As in they didn't do it.

And there goes Crytek. That's like selling your soul to the devil and expect a good outcome.kuraimen

You're thinking Activision.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8899-Microsoft-Considered-Acquiring-Crytek-as-a-First-Party-Developer.html

This would certainly shake things up in SW. What do you guys think about this? Will MS pull the trigger and acquire them seeing as how they are making Ryse now exclusively for xbox? Is Timesplitters 4 going to be a nextbox exclusive launch title!?

xXCombatWombat

It said they thought about it. As in they didn't do it.

vashkey

Read the last paragraph. It is absolutely possible that they would think about acquiring them now that they are "In love with Kinect".

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http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8899-Microsoft-Considered-Acquiring-Crytek-as-a-First-Party-Developer.html

This would certainly shake things up in SW. What do you guys think about this? Will MS pull the trigger and acquire them seeing as how they are making Ryse now exclusively for xbox? Is Timesplitters 4 going to be a nextbox exclusive launch title!?

ianuilliam

Yeah, cuz thats totally what happened to Bungie.

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http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8899-Microsoft-Considered-Acquiring-Crytek-as-a-First-Party-Developer.html

This would certainly shake things up in SW. What do you guys think about this? Will MS pull the trigger and acquire them seeing as how they are making Ryse now exclusively for xbox? Is Timesplitters 4 going to be a nextbox exclusive launch title!?

vashkey

Yeah, cuz thats totally what happened to Bungie.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]And there goes Crytek. That's like selling your soul to the devil and expect a good outcome.vashkey

You're thinking Activision.

Microsoft is just as bad.

Bad news for fans of Crytek games. They'll either get them to make one good game and then shut them down, or they'll force them into making nothing but kinect games. Either way it's a lose for any Crytek fans, even 360 owning ones.

ianuilliam

Or maybe Crytek will become as good as Turn 10.

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http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8899-Microsoft-Considered-Acquiring-Crytek-as-a-First-Party-Developer.html

This would certainly shake things up in SW. What do you guys think about this? Will MS pull the trigger and acquire them seeing as how they are making Ryse now exclusively for xbox? Is Timesplitters 4 going to be a nextbox exclusive launch title!?

vashkey

Yeah, cuz thats totally what happened to Bungie.

Bungie only made Halo. If the first Halo wasn't a megahit, they would be making some track and field game for Kinect as we speak.

Should of did it, they need more than like 4 first party studios.

Crysis 3 on-rails am confirmed?

Should of did it, they need more than like 4 first party studios.

TheEpicGoat

MGS has 11 first party studios.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]And there goes Crytek. That's like selling your soul to the devil and expect a good outcome.vashkey

You're thinking Activision.

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Should of did it, they need more than like 4 first party studios.

waltefmoney

MGS has 11 first party studios.

Really? All I see from them (that is first party) is Halo, Forza and Fable, I think.

EDIT: oh and Rare kinect games.

It would be a really big waste of expertise and technologyif they were to become first-party.

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Should of did it, they need more than like 4 first party studios.

TheEpicGoat

MGS has 11 first party studios.

Really? All I see from them (that is first party) is Halo, Forza and Fable, I think.

Wiki.

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Should of did it, they need more than like 4 first party studios.

waltefmoney

MGS has 11 first party studios.

But how many of them are actually good? Turn 10 is fantastic, Lionhead is getting progressively worse, Rare is dead, 343 looks good, the rest are Kinect crap.

Crysis 3, exclusive for Kinect.

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Bad news for fans of Crytek games. They'll either get them to make one good game and then shut them down, or they'll force them into making nothing but kinect games. Either way it's a lose for any Crytek fans, even 360 owning ones.

Yeah, cuz thats totally what happened to Bungie.

they can get them,i dont care about them nor their games.I dont think they done anything cool apart from the graphics,or atleast well known.Ratchet_Fan8

They just make better fps games than anybody else out there today. No big deal, I guess.

I really hope not, Microsoft will kill Crytek if they do. :(

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]they can get them,i dont care about them nor their games.I dont think they done anything cool apart from the graphics,or atleast well known.PurpleMan5000

They just make better fps games than anybody else out there today. No big deal, I guess.

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[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]they can get them,i dont care about them nor their games.I dont think they done anything cool apart from the graphics,or atleast well known.Ratchet_Fan8

They just make better fps games than anybody else out there today. No big deal, I guess.

It would be giving their fanbase what they want. Acquiring Crytek would be HUGE for Microsoft, but it would be pretty risky for Crytek, and the days of games being released that push graphics 3-4 years into the future would effectively be over.

This is part of why I hate the console first party.

They acquire success by throwing money at everything, and then the console gamers in SW expect me to think console "success" says something bad about PC.

Every exclusive PC has, it earned. There are no developers that were acquired or paid off to remain PC exclusive. Were as the majority of consoles exclusive line-up is just that.

Eh, that would be cool I guess but what I want and would be a Megaton for me is MS/SEGA !!! :P

When Microsoft acquired Lionhead studios, they have been pumping out Fable games since.

When they acquired Bungie, they have been pumping out Halo games since.

When they got Epic Games under contract, they have been pumping out Gears of War games...

Every time Mincrosoft pays off a company or acquires them to develop for 360, they destroy the companies creativity; and turn them into a mass production machine for a single big name franchise.

Look at what they did to poor Lionhead.

They used to have varity and release games more often. Now they pump out a Fable every two years.

I'd hate to see what they would do to Crytek if they got hold of them.

This is part of why I hate the console first party.

They acquire success by throwing money at everything, and then the console gamers in SW expect me to think console "success" says something bad about PC.

Every exclusive PC has, it earned. There are no developers that were acquired or paid off to remain PC exclusive. Were as the majority of consoles exclusive line-up is just that.

AnnoyedDragon

At the same time one could say that consoles have earned their success aswell, look at the likes of Nintendo they have pretty much built their first party from nada, Sony's Japanese Internal studios and Santa Monica are notable mentions along with Turn 10 on the MS front, all them have been pretty much started up and pumping out fantastic games.

Also PC dont "earn" exclusives as you put it, they get developed with the same mentality as other games (Do we need to be multiplat,wheres our biggest audience, what is best to develope for in terms of budget to sales ratio)

Crysis 3, exclusive for Kinect.

Wasdie

To activate Suit powers wave your arms around like wacky waving inflatable arm tube man.

At the same time one could say that consoles have earned their success aswell, look at the likes of Nintendo they have pretty much built their first party from nada, Sony's Japanese Internal studios and Santa Monica are notable mentions along with Turn 10 on the MS front, all them have been pretty much started up and pumping out fantastic games.

Also PC dont "earn" exclusives as you put it, they get developed with the same mentality as other games (Do we need to be multiplat,wheres our biggest audience, what is best to develope for in terms of budget to sales ratio)

razgriz_101

I'm going to re-emphasize.

Every exclusive PC has, the developer CHOSE to remain exclusive. All these Uncharted, Fable, Killzone, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, Gears of War ect. exist exclusively on their platform; SOLELY because of 1st party money.

You are never going to convince me that they say anything about consoles that the likes of a PC exclusive says about PC.

You guys all say this is a bad idea until Crytek makes a new exclusive FPS for 360 and then its all "Next Graphics King Confirmed". You keep playing with that double edge sword and you're bound to get hurt.

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This is part of why I hate the console first party.

They acquire success by throwing money at everything, and then the console gamers in SW expect me to think console "success" says something bad about PC.

Every exclusive PC has, it earned. There are no developers that were acquired or paid off to remain PC exclusive. Were as the majority of consoles exclusive line-up is just that.

razgriz_101

Also PC dont "earn" exclusives as you put it, they get developed with the same mentality as other games (Do we need to be multiplat,wheres our biggest audience, what is best to develope for in terms of budget to sales ratio)

First party developers don't go through any of that, that was his point.

You think there are debates on whether to bring killzone to the xbox and pc?

well crytek..it was nice knowing you

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At the same time one could say that consoles have earned their success aswell, look at the likes of Nintendo they have pretty much built their first party from nada, Sony's Japanese Internal studios and Santa Monica are notable mentions along with Turn 10 on the MS front, all them have been pretty much started up and pumping out fantastic games.

Also PC dont "earn" exclusives as you put it, they get developed with the same mentality as other games (Do we need to be multiplat,wheres our biggest audience, what is best to develope for in terms of budget to sales ratio)

AnnoyedDragon

I'm going to re-emphasize.

Every exclusive PC has, the developer CHOSE to remain exclusive. All these Uncharted, Fable, Killzone, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, Gears of War ect. exist exclusively on their platform; SOLELY because of 1st party money.

You are never going to convince me that they say anything about consoles that the likes of a PC exclusive says about PC.

Cool story bro, or there is the fact smaller indie dev's dont have the budget to go multiplat either let me Re emphasize this point in bold.They essentially go through the same process as any other product.

A game like ArmA isnt going to sell well on console's due to sheer complex and technical nature, much like other games they are designed in their mind to be what they are, just happens PC is the best platform for this and the only one for a market for this type of game.Same goes for a lot of other games aswell.

What a watse, Ryse is already a wated time from such good developer.

Cool story bro, or there is the fact smaller indie dev's dont have the budget to go multiplat either let me Re emphasize this point in bold.They essentially go through the same process as any other product.

A game like ArmA isnt going to sell well on console's due to sheer complex and technical nature, much like other games they are designed in their mind to be what they are, just happens PC is the best platform for this and the only one for a market for this type of game. Same goes for a lot of other games aswell.

razgriz_101

Most PC exclusives are not "small indie devs". Are you so used to the big budget blockbusters that the console 1st party pay for, that your typical game looks like a indie project to you?

I don't buy this argument that cost is stopping certain devs from going cross platform, when it is exactly that which is driving developers cross platform. Developers across the cost spectrum have been going cross platform, they would have to be a tiny studio for that to pose a problem, considering the number of indie products that have gone cross platform. The existence of small budget XBOXLive/PSN titles that are available across many different platforms pretty much goes against that.

While I admit that genre compatibility is a restriction on certain games going cross platform, it largely sounds like you are rationalizing excuses to downplay developers choosing to remain on PC, as well as defend the image of consoles just throwing money at everything.

It doesn't matter how you spin it. A paid for exclusive does not have the same significance as a 3rd party exclusive.

AnnoyedDragon

Mediocre game
Mediocre expansion
Good game
Good Expansion
Crap game
Mediocre game
Mediocre expansion
Mediocre expansion
Crap game
Crap game
Crap kinect game

Seems to me like its more of lionheads fault then Microsofts they've always produced Mediocre games.

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At the same time one could say that consoles have earned their success aswell, look at the likes of Nintendo they have pretty much built their first party from nada, Sony's Japanese Internal studios and Santa Monica are notable mentions along with Turn 10 on the MS front, all them have been pretty much started up and pumping out fantastic games.

Also PC dont "earn" exclusives as you put it, they get developed with the same mentality as other games (Do we need to be multiplat,wheres our biggest audience, what is best to develope for in terms of budget to sales ratio)

I'm going to re-emphasize.

Every exclusive PC has, the developer CHOSE to remain exclusive. All these Uncharted, Fable, Killzone, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, Gears of War ect. exist exclusively on their platform; SOLELY because of 1st party money.

You are never going to convince me that they say anything about consoles that the likes of a PC exclusive says about PC.

Mediocre game
Mediocre expansion
Good game
Good Expansion
Crap game
Mediocre game
Mediocre expansion
Mediocre expansion
Crap game
Crap game
Crap kinect game

Seems to me like its more of lionheads fault then Microsofts they've always produced Mediocre games.

WilliamRLBaker

Your personal tastes are not a counter argument to the point being made...

and It seems most are choosing to go multiplat.WilliamRLBaker

Current gen developement costs are driving developers cross platform. That said, there are far more exclusive games on PC this generation than consoles, considerably more.

So the suggestion that "most" PC games are going cross platform is a outright lie.

LOL, I like how Phil Spencer said that Microsoft has enough shooters.