Microsoft could bury the PS3 if they added a Bluray drive to the Zephyr.

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#1 ramey70
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Microsoft has very little financial attachment to HD-DVD and has even said in the past that if Bluray "won" they would have no problems making it the format of choice for their next console.  Hell, Microsoft's VC-1 codec is now used on many current Bluray releases.  Outside of gaming Microsoft and Sony work together on many projects and such.  So it's not like they are at each others throats.  As far as licensing goes, Sony is fairly open with Bluray technology and probably couldn't restrict MS using the media for fear of antitrust violations.  So it is feasible they could use and incorporate the technology.

 

So could you imagine a Zephyr with the 360's library, Live, a Bluray player with HDMI capable of also reading DVD-9 360 games, and a larger 100GB HDD for about $499?   I would get rid of my PS3 for that (and by default my current Premium 360).  And to be honest, I don't even think Sony would have much of a problem with it considering that would virtually spur sales and adoption of Bluray more than they thought posssible.

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#2 ColoradoKindBud
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Except for the fact that the Zephyr doesn't actually exist. 
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#3 Spartan070
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Except for the fact that the Zephyr doesn't actually exist. ColoradoKindBud
...that you know of. They've obviously made prototypes.
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#4 Magical_Guy
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They could bury the PS3 but Sony would make money from the blu-ray sells
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#5 pbkick1
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I don't care which format wins aslong as they win fast.  I want to buy a next gen player however I don't want to pick the loser.
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#6 2largeadults
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They'd have to sell it at a higher price. And that won't be popular.
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#7 ramey70
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They could bury the PS3 but Sony would make money from the blu-ray sellsMagical_Guy
So? Microsoft isn't out to put Sony out of business. Sony makes a lot of money selling PC's and laptops with Windows products right now.
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I don't care which format wins aslong as they win fast.  I want to by a next gen player but I don't want to pick the loser.pbkick1

I might have to sig that, it's just too funny!!!!

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#9 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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If MS added a BR drive then it would only help Sony offset their losses and they could take a bigger hit on the PS3's price.  Sony would be taking a cut on every BR game or drive sold thanks to MS. 
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#10 flabjab93
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Why would sony allow microsoft to have blue-ray if they knew it would bury their system?  This is possibly the dumbest thread ever created.
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#11 ithilgore2006
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Yes, it's not like Sony are the owners/makers of Blu-Ray or anything.
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[QUOTE="pbkick1"]I don't care which format wins aslong as they win fast.  I want to by a next gen player but I don't want to pick the loser.ColoradoKindBud

I might have to sig that, it's just too funny!!!!

What's funny about it?...it's true.

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#13 Raidea
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No...

Really, there are so many reasons why this wouldn't work.

Huge cost, all old games need to be format swapped, MS wouldn't support HD-DVD anymore not to mention it would disrupt long term plans for the console.

No, MS just need to continue what they are doing at the moment, supplying great games. Adding a new drive would be pointless.

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They could bury the PS3 but Sony would make money from the blu-ray sellsMagical_Guy
And MS doesn't make money from what Sony does right?
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#15 Corvin
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Except for the fact that the Zephyr doesn't actually exist. ColoradoKindBud

 

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/20/hdmi-enabled-black-xbox-360-in-late-april-for-479/  

 

I'll leave it up to you whether you believe this latest but it seems to be more than just a rumor. 

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Yes, it's not like Sony are the owners/makers of Blu-Ray or anything.ithilgore2006

Umm, they are though. :|

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Why would sony allow microsoft to have blue-ray if they knew it would bury their system? This is possibly the dumbest thread ever created.flabjab93
Sony wouldn't be able to restrict MS from using Bluray. If they did they would up themselves up to massive antitrust violations. The same would happen if Microsoft kept Windows Vista from recognizing Bluray drives or media.
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#18 DaysAirlines
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Except for the fact that the Zephyr doesn't actually exist.  ColoradoKindBud
..ehh. Maybe or maybe not.
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#19 ramey70
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No...

Really, there are so many reasons why this wouldn't work.

Huge cost, all old games need to be format swapped, MS wouldn't support HD-DVD anymore not to mention it would disrupt long term plans for the console.

No, MS just need to continue what they are doing at the moment, supplying great games. Adding a new drive would be pointless.

Raidea
Why would they need to be format swapped? DVD-9 workes on a Bluray drive.
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#20 Corvin
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[QUOTE="flabjab93"]Why would sony allow microsoft to have blue-ray if they knew it would bury their system? This is possibly the dumbest thread ever created.ramey70
Sony wouldn't be able to restrict MS from using Bluray. If they did they would up themselves up to massive antitrust violations. The same would happen if Microsoft kept Windows Vista from recognizing Bluray drives or media.

Exactly, Blu-Ray is an open, licensed format like DVD or HD-DVD, etc. ANYONE can use it (even the competition) if they pay to license the technology for their devices.
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#21 JDW_games
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I could care less about having a DVD player/Game system. I buy them both seperate now. I played my original XBOX and Gamecube for years and never used the XBOX for a DVD player. I always used a regular DVD player. I think most people even with a PS2 do the same thing. When will these companies (especially Sony) realize we DONT CARE ABOUT A SYSTEM FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN GAMES!
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#22 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"]Yes, it's not like Sony are the owners/makers of Blu-Ray or anything.ColoradoKindBud

Umm, they are though. :|

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
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#23 EscobarPR_basic
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You guys just don't get it.  MS is burying the PS3 right now because the 360 DOESN'T have a Bluray or HDDVD drive.  90+% of gamers and about 99% of consumers in general don't care about or want a new video format - they're just fine with DVD.  And that includes HDTV owners - I have a 57" HDTV and I don't care about them either - they're really not all that much of a jump from DVD, especially when you can get an upconvert DVD player.  The other people who are actually interested in next-gen formats are mostly waiting for the player prices to reach mainstream prices (i.e. less than $200) to decide to jump into the mix.  At least that's what the smart people are doing.  So really, the PS3's problem is that Sony is forcing gamers to buy both a game machine AND a next-gen video player at a $600 price tag.  Nobody wants to pay that extra $200-$300 for something they don't want or need when it could be better spent on gaming stuff like extra controllers, accessories, or, God forbid, games.  Its all about the games.
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But doesn't Sony own Bluray?
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#25 ramey70
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But doesn't Sony own Bluray?foxhound_fox
Sort of, the are head of the licensing group behind Bluray. They couldn't restrict MS from using it though.
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Microsoft has very little financial attachment to HD-DVD and has even said in the past that if Bluray "won" they would have no problems making it the format of choice for their next console.  Hell, Microsoft's VC-1 codec is now used on many current Bluray releases.  Outside of gaming Microsoft and Sony work together on many projects and such.  So it's not like they are at each others throats.  As far as licensing goes, Sony is fairly open with Bluray technology and probably couldn't restrict MS using the media for fear of antitrust violations.  So it is feasible they could use and incorporate the technology.

 

So could you imagine a Zephyr with the 360's library, Live, a Bluray player with HDMI capable of also reading DVD-9 360 games, and a larger 100GB HDD for about $499?   I would get rid of my PS3 for that (and by default my current Premium 360).  And to be honest, I don't even think Sony would have much of a problem with it considering that would virtually spur sales and adoption of Bluray more than they thought posssible.

ramey70

 

There is no need right now for MS to support the movie formats as the majority of consumers don't even have hdtv's. Why waste money when your potential install base isn't all the good. They are focus on gaming and adding movies in HD via download. That is the true future way down the road and MS will be well in the lead when that happens.

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#27 trasherhead
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and so Sony would get money for every new 360 sold:D Good move:P
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#28 ramey70
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and so Sony would get money for every new 360 sold:D Good move:Ptrasherhead
Why would MS have a problem with Sony making money? As I said before, it's not like MS wants them to go out of business.
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and so Sony would get money for every new 360 sold:D Good move:Ptrasherhead
Could I interest you in a Sony Vaio PC with Windows Vista Ultimate on it?
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#30 ramey70
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]and so Sony would get money for every new 360 sold:D Good move:PDaysAirlines
Could I interest you in a Sony Vaio PC with Windows Vista Ultimate on it?

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2005/oct05/10-18Sony.mspx
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#31 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]and so Sony would get money for every new 360 sold:D Good move:Pramey70
Why would MS have a problem with Sony making money? As I said before, it's not like MS wants them to go out of business.

I was thinking mor in the line of MS PAYING sony to use the BD technology.
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#32 J1M-e
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Why wud they hav 2 it wont add anyfing to wot the 360's all about games jst like it hasnt added to the ps3's games (or rather lack of) plus the ps3 seems to be doin a gd job of burying itself  

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#33 trasherhead
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Why wud they hav 2 it wont add anyfing to wot the 360's all about games jst like it hasnt added to the ps3's games (or rather lack of) plus the ps3 seems to be doin a gd job of burying itself

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