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#1 Shinobi120
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I've been hearing so many gamers/consumers criticize Microsoft for not putting out more exclusive games of 2009 to present, but here's the truth of it all: The Xbox management team of 2008 to present isn't the same as the management team of 2001-2007.

They just don't give a flip about gaming & is only in this industry to try to take over your living room. Heck, they even once said that they don't care about exclusives.

Only Nintendo &/or Sony cares about gamers & gaming in general.

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#2 mariokart64fan
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neither does sony lol they both will charge an arm and a leg ,   release  more crap no one wants ,   less of the good s#$%^ 

more dlc  bla bla bla ,       

   we will see who has cheaper hardware this time 

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neither does sony lol they both will charge an arm and a leg ,   release  more crap no one wants ,   less of the good s#$%^ 

more dlc  bla bla bla ,       

   we will see who has cheaper hardware this time 

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neither does sony lol they both will charge an arm and a leg ,   release  more crap no one wants ,   less of the good s#$%^ 

more dlc  bla bla bla ,       

   we will see who has cheaper hardware this time 

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How are those Wii 3rd party games bro?

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#6 ImBatman-
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MS and Nintendo have both gone casual. Sony is our last hope.

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#7 casharmy
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You are going to get alot of flack and you could have presented your argument better...but when it's all said and done what you have said is dead on correct

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I've been hearing so many gamers/consumers criticize Microsoft for not putting out more exclusive games of 2009 to present, but here's the truth of it all: The Xbox management team of 2008 to present isn't the same as the management team of 2001-2007.

They just don't give a flip about gaming & is only in this industry to try to take over your living room. Heck, they even once said that they don't care about exclusives.

Only Nintendo &/or Sony cares about gamers & gaming in general.

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Nintendo was the first company that started chasing casuals. m$ followed and never looked back while Nintendo is trying to get their core fans back but its too late.

Sony is the only company that has stayed loyal to its fans and truly cares about real gamers.

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#11 MonsieurX
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Who the hell cares? Microsoft makes $500 mill in profit a quarter with the xbox while SONY makes a puny $12 mill. I'm happy.

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#12 I_can_haz
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MS and Nintendo have both gone casual. Sony is our last hope.

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#13 casharmy
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Nintendo was the first company that started chasing casuals. m$ followed and never looked back while Nintendo is trying to get their core fans back but its too late.

Sony is the only company that has stayed loyal to its fans and truly cares about real gamers.

NathanDrakeSwag

I believe nintendo had good intentions when they went the casual route, they were trying to widen the gamer market (and maybe they have) but they couldn't have known that they would have had the kind of success they did.

I did criticize big N for going casual but they did it to get new groups of people, who wouldn't other wise try, to get into gaming.  M$ on the other hand ONLY went that route because they saw SSS nintendo made by doing so.  

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#14 BattlefieldFan3
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[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan3"]

Who the hell cares? Microsoft makes $500 mill in profit a quarter with the xbox while SONY makes a puny $12 mill. I'm happy.

MonsieurX

Go be a fakeboy somewhere else

LOL? So are you suggesting that microsoft doesn't make $500 mill a quarter through its xbox division and that sony makes less than a tenth of that? Why don't you go learn how to google stuff.

P.S. We Americans invented google and the search bar, so thank us for that after you google what I claimed. Moron.

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The reason you feel that way is because youve convinced yourself of it... has anyone ever thought that both consoles will have equal worth through different aspects? Is anybody gonna wait for the announcement before blowing their load?
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="BattlefieldFan3"]

Who the hell cares? Microsoft makes $500 mill in profit a quarter with the xbox while SONY makes a puny $12 mill. I'm happy.

BattlefieldFan3

Go be a fakeboy somewhere else

LOL? So are you suggesting that microsoft doesn't make $500 mill a year through its xbox division and that sony makes less than 10x that? Why don't you go learn how to google stuff.

P.S. We Americans invented google and the search bar, so thank us for that after you google what I claimed. Moron.

I remember when you first created your account you pretended to be a hardcore cow. No one takes you seriously.
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[QUOTE="BattlefieldFan3"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Go be a fakeboy somewhere elseFrostbite24

LOL? So are you suggesting that microsoft doesn't make $500 mill a year through its xbox division and that sony makes less than 10x that? Why don't you go learn how to google stuff.

P.S. We Americans invented google and the search bar, so thank us for that after you google what I claimed. Moron.

I remember when you first created your account you pretended to be a hardcore cow. No one takes you seriously.

LOL... I know you delusional cows make stuff up as you go. It's actually quite cute and funny. Do you have any proof?

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Why would they care if their customers don't care? I think M$ should sell calculators to lems since it seems it's their preferred machine to play their favorite game: sales.
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#20 Speedzilla
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Sony is the only one that cares about us gamers. Sony pumps out amazing exclusives with loads of variety, while Ninty and M$ think of new ways to take your money. I'm glad we have Sony teaching us right from wrong. God bless and thank you Sony.

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#21 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="BattlefieldFan3"]

Who the hell cares? Microsoft makes $500 mill in profit a quarter with the xbox while SONY makes a puny $12 mill. I'm happy.

BattlefieldFan3

Go be a fakeboy somewhere else

LOL? So are you suggesting that microsoft doesn't make $500 mill a quarter through its xbox division and that sony makes less than a tenth of that? Why don't you go learn how to google stuff.

P.S. We Americans invented google and the search bar, so thank us for that after you google what I claimed. Moron.

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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="BattlefieldFan3"]

LOL? So are you suggesting that microsoft doesn't make $500 mill a year through its xbox division and that sony makes less than 10x that? Why don't you go learn how to google stuff.

P.S. We Americans invented google and the search bar, so thank us for that after you google what I claimed. Moron.

BattlefieldFan3

I remember when you first created your account you pretended to be a hardcore cow. No one takes you seriously.

LOL... I know you delusional cows make stuff up as you go. It's actually quite cute and funny. Do you have any proof?

I remember once seeing you claim how you like the PS3 because you don't want to be associated with the 360 and the Kinect since using it makes you look like a fool...

Sadly, can't hunt down the thread, but I remember I was chatting about RAM bandwith with someone, then you popped in (it's an older thread, not from this year)...

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#23 casharmy
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Sony is the only one that cares about us gamers. Sony pumps out amazing exclusives with loads of variety, while Ninty and M$ think of new ways to take your money. I'm glad we have Sony teaching us right from wrong. God bless and thank you Sony.

Speedzilla

:? nintendo didn't know the wii was going to be the sucess it was until it happended.  I just want to make it clear that it's easy to criticize nintendo NOW  because of how sucessful (money wise) wii has been this gen...

However I was never upset becuase of the success I was upset because they took focus off of the core fans and gamers.  Nintendo expressed wanting to bring a new audience to gaming to widen the gaming market as a whole.  Dispite me not liking what they did, what they originally tried to do was good for gaming.  MS only saw the money that came after.

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#24 dogfather76
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I like Sony as much as the next guy, but to say that they aren't trying "dominate the living room" is blind fanboyism. A huge part of their push over the past 8 years in things unrelated to games. Do you even realize the role that Sony plays in the film industry. What about consumer electronics (like the 3D TV they tried to push). The Playstation "Move" certainly doesn't cater to what many consider the hard core crowd. The Playstation Store now devotes as much space to movies/TV as it does games. Stop being a blind fanboy and act like Sony all of a sudden is focused purely on games and gamers.

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#25 WilliamRLBaker
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arggggggg Microsoft brainwashhhh......

Seems to me with more sales than ps3 in systems and games, more games released...etc etc they cared quite a bit. Its funny that the 360 has been out longer than any other console without a successor and when MS ramp down development for it in preparation for the next system something every system before it has done sheens try to use it as meaning something.

Ive had fun with my 360 for 7 years.

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[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

Sony is the only one that cares about us gamers. Sony pumps out amazing exclusives with loads of variety, while Ninty and M$ think of new ways to take your money. I'm glad we have Sony teaching us right from wrong. God bless and thank you Sony.

casharmy

:? nintendo didn't know the wii was going to be the sucess it was until it happended.  I just want to make it clear that it's easy to criticize nintendo NOW  because of how sucessful (money wise) wii has been this gen...

However I was never upset becuase of the success I was upset because they took focus off of the core fans and gamers.  Nintendo expressed wanting to bring a new audience to gaming to widen the gaming market as a whole.  Dispite me not liking what they did, what they originally tried to do was good for gaming.  MS only saw the money that came after.

lol core gamers and games....lol focus this industry has never been focused on core games or gamers. 1.core games is a subjective term. 2. the majority of gamers are usually called casuals, gamers that own one system and a small catalog of games. Ive lost respect for you with your last sentence you didnt like it but what they did was good for gaming¿ that means all you had was fanboyism and even Im not that low I may talk s*** here but I strive to play all the systems and games whether i like them or not.
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#27 ImBatman-
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]

Sony is the only one that cares about us gamers. Sony pumps out amazing exclusives with loads of variety, while Ninty and M$ think of new ways to take your money. I'm glad we have Sony teaching us right from wrong. God bless and thank you Sony.

WilliamRLBaker

:? nintendo didn't know the wii was going to be the sucess it was until it happended.  I just want to make it clear that it's easy to criticize nintendo NOW  because of how sucessful (money wise) wii has been this gen...

However I was never upset becuase of the success I was upset because they took focus off of the core fans and gamers.  Nintendo expressed wanting to bring a new audience to gaming to widen the gaming market as a whole.  Dispite me not liking what they did, what they originally tried to do was good for gaming.  MS only saw the money that came after.

lol core gamers and games....lol focus this industry has never been focused on core games or gamers. 1.core games is a subjective term. 2. the majority of gamers are usually called casuals, gamers that own one system and a small catalog of games. Ive lost respect for you with your last sentence you didnt like it but what they did was good for gaming¿ that means all you had was fanboyism and even Im not that low I may talk s*** here but I strive to play all the systems and games whether i like them or not.

Believe it or not, you may not care about Sony, but Sony cares about you. That is the Sony way. They are 99% core. Thank you Sony.

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#28 shawn30
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I've been hearing so many gamers/consumers criticize Microsoft for not putting out more exclusive games of 2009 to present, but here's the truth of it all: The Xbox management team of 2008 to present isn't the same as the management team of 2001-2007.

They just don't give a flip about gaming & is only in this industry to try to take over your living room. Heck, they even once said that they don't care about exclusives.

Only Nintendo &/or Sony cares about gamers & gaming in general.

Shinobi120
Lol, really. *looks at his 360 collection* I think they've done pretty well by me. And judging by their huge chunk of market share, 15 straight months of sales victories in the US, success in the UK, and my own personal enjoyment of the games I have and am waiting for like Gears, GTA, and Injustice for All, MS is doing just fine by fans of the system. Its the obsessive need to tell such fans by non-fans that is most interesting. Why do Cows care so much about a system they won't buy, and discount fans of that system saying they enjoy their games, lol? MS is doing something right cause I am enjoying it greatly. And I can't say I really care about exclusives either. As long as I have a couple of my absolute favs I'm fine. MS also makes or buys third party new ones. Just a matter of time before they are revealed.
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who cares about sony, they don't even have party chat, the controller sucks, even with the better hardware the graphics are worse. A couple of exclusives don't make a system for me, besides xbox has some good exclusives too, not as much as sony but still the ps3 is like a beefed up ps2 while the x360 did a lot for gamers. It made it a lot more social, easy, reliable and the console didn't break the bank either.
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#30 ImBatman-
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who cares about sony, they don't even have party chat, the controller sucks, even with the better hardware the graphics are worse. A couple of exclusives don't make a system for me, besides xbox has some good exclusives too, not as much as sony but still the ps3 is like a beefed up ps2 while the x360 did a lot for gamers. It made it a lot more social, easy, reliable and the console didn't break the bank either.evildead6789
A beefed up PS2 would be amazing seeing as it was the greatest console of all time. Also, there's a good chance PS4 will have party chat.

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I've been hearing so many gamers/consumers criticize Microsoft for not putting out more exclusive games of 2009 to present, but here's the truth of it all: The Xbox management team of 2008 to present isn't the same as the management team of 2001-2007.

They just don't give a flip about gaming & is only in this industry to try to take over your living room. Heck, they even once said that they don't care about exclusives.

Only Nintendo &/or Sony cares about gamers & gaming in general.

Shinobi120

Games are a huge part of living room entertainment and considering the overwhelming majority of games are multiplats, MS sees little reason to put out tons of obscure exlcusives that won't even sell 500k units like Sony does. MS just wants to pump all of its money into a handful of core franchises to appease core gamers and then let third parties satisfy them the rest of the time.

MS is in the business of making money, and they are better at it than Sony is.

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#32 commander
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"]who cares about sony, they don't even have party chat, the controller sucks, even with the better hardware the graphics are worse. A couple of exclusives don't make a system for me, besides xbox has some good exclusives too, not as much as sony but still the ps3 is like a beefed up ps2 while the x360 did a lot for gamers. It made it a lot more social, easy, reliable and the console didn't break the bank either.ImBatman-

A beefed up PS2 would be amazing seeing as it was the greatest console of all time. Also, there's a good chance PS4 will have party chat.

We're talking about the ps3, aren't we, and i didn't mean the huge collection of ps2 games, but it didn't innovate on a lot of the stuff. Besides the graphics on the first xbox were way better than the shaderless ps2.
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Sony is the only one that cares about us gamers. Sony pumps out amazing exclusives with loads of variety, while Ninty and M$ think of new ways to take your money. I'm glad we have Sony teaching us right from wrong. God bless and thank you Sony.

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Why would they care if their customers don't care? I think M$ should sell calculators to lems since it seems it's their preferred machine to play their favorite game: sales.kuraimen
Look kuraimen. I found a picture of your PS3 collection.
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#35 Jack-Burton
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MS are evil they will sleep with your sister and kick your dog if you're not careful.
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Kinect 2.0 is what I want, deal with it.

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#37 olart4618
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MS and Nintendo have both gone casual. Sony is our last hope.

ImBatman-

can I borrow you time machine, i want to see ms announcement

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#38 ImBatman-
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[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]

MS and Nintendo have both gone casual. Sony is our last hope.

olart4618

can I borrow you time machine, i want to see ms announcement

It's in the batcave.

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#39 commander
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MS are evil they will sleep with your sister and kick your dog if you're not careful.Jack-Burton
I didn't know sleeping with someones sister is evil . Kicking the dog is just horrendous though.
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[QUOTE="Jack-Burton"]MS are evil they will sleep with your sister and kick your dog if you're not careful.evildead6789
I didn't know sleeping with someones sister is evil . Kicking the dog is just horrendous though.

There's nothing to worry about when you have Sony watching over you. Sony will bring justice.

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#41 FPSfan1985
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Casuals out number core gamers. By quite a bit just look at the top 10 sold week in and week out. Looks like they are giving the majority of people exactly what they want and need. You and most core gamers simply fall into the minority.
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#42 ImBatman-
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Casuals out number core gamers. By quite a bit just look at the top 10 sold week in and week out. Looks like they are giving the majority of people exactly what they want and need. You and most core gamers simply fall into the minority. FPSfan1985
Casuals are also the least predictable. They are not loyal, like core gamers.

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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]Casuals out number core gamers. By quite a bit just look at the top 10 sold week in and week out. Looks like they are giving the majority of people exactly what they want and need. You and most core gamers simply fall into the minority. ImBatman-

Casuals are also the least predictable. They are not loyal, like core gamers.

Since when are core gamers loyal? If that were true Xbox as a brand would have never had a chance.
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If the rumors end up being true (mandatory kinect, always online, no used games, etc...), i will have to completly agree!

There's still hope, though. MS got it right with Xbox and 360, since both consoles had powerful hardware for their time, were easy to develop for and did focus mainly on core gaming.

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#45 nhh18
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Wow. You figured that one out now? I thought paying 60$ to play a game online a year and having a console that is completely broken (mind you I'm on my 3rd xbox 360).

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#46 AznbkdX
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I'm certain everyone else cares a whole lot. Its only Microsoft that really doesn't care until something bad happens.

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#47 commander
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Wow. You figured that one out now? I thought paying 60$ to play a game online a year and having a console that is completely broken (mind you I'm on my 3rd xbox 360).

nhh18
I still have my first one
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#48 cainetao11
Member since 2006 • 38053 Posts
And yet I got a quite lengthy and fun co op campaign for nothing in ten episodes in Spartan ops. Extending my enjoyment of one of my favorite games last year. If Sony did this it would be because they care. None of them care. I am not emotional about business. I buy what I wish to make use of from all 3 console manufacturers. Tomorrow I will buy ascension, not because "oh thank you Sony" pole slurping, but because I won't miss what I want to play if I can afford not to. Let go of this emotional tie to a corporation.
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#49 OldSnakePS3
Member since 2012 • 306 Posts

youre just figuring this out now?  i couldve told you that years ago 

M$ dont give a fvck about anything except $$$$$ 

nintendo is a joke as well

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#50 Riverwolf007
Member since 2005 • 26023 Posts

lol, hey look all the people that hate ms with a passion don't think ms cares about gamer people.

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