http://www.amazon.com/computer-video-games-hardware-accessories/b/ref=sa_menu_cvg1?ie=UTF8&node=468642
Pretty impressive for preorders.
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I'm sure there will be a very strong Hardcore Xbox FANBASE presense will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem to the core market, the appeal to the casual market may or may not be strong, it's hard to gauge.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
um... what? hardcore xbox fanbase will NOT be there to buy kinect, it's not for us, we don't want it. It's for da casuals.I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
SolidTy
but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly. We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.Unfriendly against Kinect, or the new console?SolidTy
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]um... what? hardcore xbox fanbase will NOT be there to buy kinect, it's not for us, we don't want it. It's for da casuals.I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
fastr
At least one other person gets it.
From what ive seen at talked to people about, I COMPLETELY disagree. Considering its months away from release and is the number 1 selling item in the video game world on amazon only supports my viewI'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
SolidTy
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]um... what? hardcore xbox fanbase will NOT be there to buy kinect, it's not for us, we don't want it. It's for da casuals.I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
fastr
i will buy it for my Family but not for me
Not surprising. When MS announced they were focusing on motion control, suddenly lemmings went from "motion control is a gimmick and you look stupid flailing around" to "OMFG! MS has innovated gaming 4evah and done what nobody else has even thought of trying!!!!"
basically, lemmings have deluded themselves into believing MS invented motion control and Eye Toy.
The real world doesn't consist of lemmings and cows and sheep and hermits. It's consumers in general - forget factions for a minute.Not surprising. When MS announced they were focusing on motion control, suddenly lemmings went from "motion control is a gimmick and you look stupid flailing around" to "OMFG! MS has innovated gaming 4evah and done what nobody else has even thought of trying!!!!"
basically, lemmings have deluded themselves into believing MS invented motion control and Eye Toy.
ZIMdoom
*Casual gamer sees kinect advertisement, impulse purchase*
*Casual gamer glayly installs kinect, tries minority report gimmick and thinks "Wow this cool."
*Casual gamer thinks "Time to try games", and fires a game*
*Casual gamer plays 20 minute and suddenly realises "Wait a minute these games feel familiar". His eyes to move to console that is next to xbox 360, the wii and he says "For ****'s sake".*
*Casual tries to justify not selling it away, "but menu and voice recognition system is great".*
*Casual watches movie in the night, takes breaks often yelling "Xbox pause!, Xbox continue!(or what those were :P)"*
*Next day other residents of the aparments will come to knock his door demanding casual gamer shut ups at night*
*Only thing casual gamer can do with is minority report gimmick.*
150 dollar. Money well spent.
I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
SolidTy
Umm its pretty obvious that MS isnt really catering to hardcore gamers with Kinect. Its even more casual then the Wii.
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
Fizzman
Umm its pretty obvious that MS isnt really catering to hardcore gamers with Kinect. Its even more casual then the Wii.
And who those are? People between not touching games ever and people who play games rarely?
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
Nohtnym
Umm its pretty obvious that MS isnt really catering to hardcore gamers with Kinect. Its even more casual then the Wii.
And who those are? People between not touching gamers ever and people who play games rarely?
Probably people who don't post on video games forums arguing in favour of their systems :P[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
Nohtnym
Umm its pretty obvious that MS isnt really catering to hardcore gamers with Kinect. Its even more casual then the Wii.
And who those are? People between not touching games ever and people who play games rarely?
The people who actually thought Kinectimals was really cool.
basically, lemmings have deluded themselves into believing MS invented motion control and Eye Toy.
ZIMdoom
Yep, that's right. Did you also know the US government hired Bin Laden to cause the oil Spill in an effort to discredit BP and thus, Britain? Yep.
The Eye Toy = Natal? I did not know that. I guess PS1 = PS3 too?
what do ya expect microsoft is an american based console of course it will have strong sales in america but doesnt mean its gonna sell well in the EU or japan
what do ya expect microsoft is an american based console of course it will have strong sales in america but doesnt mean its gonna sell well in the EU or japan
Whiteknight19
That is why they have mamma mia musical promoting kinect at gamescom, and this time they will use whole conference for it. :lol:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/new-releases/videogames/ref=pd_nr_zgc_vg_h__video_games_display_on_website_more?pf_rd_p=467646873&pf_rd_s=right-8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=300703&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=09JTBKBV7NN6A5AAEMRC Bear in mind that Kinect is not available for Preorder yet.what do ya expect microsoft is an american based console of course it will have strong sales in america but doesnt mean its gonna sell well in the EU or japan
Whiteknight19
I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
SolidTy
watch it sell lol
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
Nohtnym
Umm its pretty obvious that MS isnt really catering to hardcore gamers with Kinect. Its even more casual then the Wii.
And who those are? People between not touching games ever and people who play games rarely?
parents, for their young kids? 12 year olds? casuals who want to play some 4 player crazyness? frats who want to see what happens when they get drunk and play kinect? NOT the hardcore people who they already own.much like Cows did when the ps3 was first announced to have sixaxis, they couldn't stop bashing the Wii...then it ramped up even higher with cows claiming move would totally change the motion sensing landscape.Not surprising. When MS announced they were focusing on motion control, suddenly lemmings went from "motion control is a gimmick and you look stupid flailing around" to "OMFG! MS has innovated gaming 4evah and done what nobody else has even thought of trying!!!!"
basically, lemmings have deluded themselves into believing MS invented motion control and Eye Toy.
ZIMdoom
Im not really intersted in the first months sales for this thing, im interested in the sales several months later. Sure, its going to sell out because of the early adopters, but what about after they all bought one? will it still continue to do great? Anyone, I would have my money that, for this month, 360 outsells PS3. But who knows about the months after that.
Not surprising that a new console goes to the top of the Amazon charts.FIipMode
I have to agree with this.
Amazon = teh world1stPlaceWinnerIt is the largest online retailer on the planet. Give us something better if you can.
True that. The lions share of the gamer market doesn't keep up with E3 at all. It's all about whether or not the early adopters actually like a product or not that moves the mass market.The only ppl who will be pre ordering RIGHT AFTER e3 are major fanboys.
Respawn-d
[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]The real world doesn't consist of lemmings and cows and sheep and hermits. It's consumers in general - forget factions for a minute.Not surprising. When MS announced they were focusing on motion control, suddenly lemmings went from "motion control is a gimmick and you look stupid flailing around" to "OMFG! MS has innovated gaming 4evah and done what nobody else has even thought of trying!!!!"
basically, lemmings have deluded themselves into believing MS invented motion control and Eye Toy.
Ravensmash
Are you trying to say that every 360 owner in the world is lining up to buy Kinect?
[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]much like Cows did when the ps3 was first announced to have sixaxis, they couldn't stop bashing the Wii...then it ramped up even higher with cows claiming move would totally change the motion sensing landscape.Not surprising. When MS announced they were focusing on motion control, suddenly lemmings went from "motion control is a gimmick and you look stupid flailing around" to "OMFG! MS has innovated gaming 4evah and done what nobody else has even thought of trying!!!!"
basically, lemmings have deluded themselves into believing MS invented motion control and Eye Toy.
WilliamRLBaker
Right...because tilt control in the six-axis is totally the same as motion control in the Wiimote. Must be why the PS3 has all those light-gun type shooter games. Or golfing games where you swing the controller like a golf club.
Do you even OWN a PS3 or Wii? Because I won both and six-axis is nothing like motion control. Not even close.
I tried to tell people that bad plubicity isnt always a negative thing somtimes it can cause a significant amount of interest in a product. Only fanboys seem to bash natal and at this point i have no idea why since its not really meant for the hardcore. Expect this plus the new 360 slim to even further the gap between the ps3 and 360bigboss5akThat's true. Fanboys inadvertently are only giving it more publicity. Most of those bashing don't even own a 360, MS's targeted audience however seems to be responding. This could be the start of a different scenario in systems sales.
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]um... what? hardcore xbox fanbase will NOT be there to buy kinect, it's not for us, we don't want it. It's for da casuals.I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
fastr
Yeah I consider myself a fairly "hardcore" MS user and I am most certainly waiting to buy Kinect, hell I may not even ever get it. His post is way off base lol...as are alot of the argumentative posts in this topic.
The online gaming community has not taken kindly, but I've seen plenty of general and gaming media praising Kinect, while also pointing out just a few flaws. I don't think your statements have any basis in reality. Move is a Wii clone, it simply won't have the same type of appeal as Kinect, which is something newer to the general public.I'm sure the Hardcore Xbox FANBASE will be there no problem to buy the product and are at AMAZON right nao!...that's not the problem. The mass Appeal or lack thereof is the problem.
We will have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I can tell you, the general media and gaming media, have NOT been friendly.We will see if that has any affect in the real world come this holiday.
SolidTy
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