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#1 GrabTheYayo
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As some of you may or may not know, i was a huge lemming. But now i feel like M$ has betrayed me. They have left their original costumers to pursue the money and fame like the Wii. Kinect has ruined anything that was good about the 360. The lack of exclusive games this year and next year is proof of this. Console gaming for the hardcore in general is dieing. Sony seems to be the only one left thats actually trying to keep the hardcore games alive. But soon i can also see sony dumping that. maybe not for the PS3 but for the PS4. you can expect 100% casualized next gen consoles from all three companies.

I loved nintendo when i was a kid....but i would have never guessed that it would be them to kill console gaming for me. they have spread a virus. and they need to burn in hell for it.

anyways i sold my xbox. sure im going to miss halo reach and its going to suck not playing gears 3 next year. but one big exclusive per year is not enough to keep a system.

the only hope for console gaming is for a new company to step in next gen and take over the hardcore market. Apple...they can be the savior of this casual virus.

Who els feels this way?

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#2 Bigboi500
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You're blaming Nintendo for Microsoft's failures? :lol: What ever helps you sleep at night...

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#3 lx_theo
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Sony basically is all that fills the role now. They have motion gaming, but at least it seems to have been an attempt to incorporate into what they've been doing instead of embracing it. I guess PC is a good route for that too, though. MS has always been about the money. Much more so than any of the other companies from hat I can tell. This should surprise no one.
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#4 randomguy15
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Selling a system is never a good idea. Also the 360 has some exclusives coming next year that we don't even know. Sure their focus on kinect is... frustrating, but you shouldn't feel betrayed from a major company.

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#5 GrabTheYayo
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You're blaming Nintendo for Microsoft's failures? :lol: What ever helps you sleep at night...

Bigboi500

im blaming them for starting a trend...if wii wasnt motion control then kinect and the ps move would not have been made

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#6 lild1425
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Microsoft is definitely getting more greedy. Hopefully Sony will have some good competition and humble them back to reality.

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#7 UCF_Knight
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anyways i sold my xbox. sure im going to miss halo reach and its going to suck not playing gears 3 next year. but one big exclusive per year is not enough to keep a system.GrabTheYayo
..you really thought there'd be only once exclusive next year? Anyways.. no.. I don't feel the same way.
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#8 ocelot1994
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LMAO!! Be happy with what u got man
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the only hope for console gaming is for a new company to step in next gen and take over the hardcore market. Apple...they can be the savior of this casual virus.

GrabTheYayo

Uh. Dude. You can't get more casual than Apple.

There's a lesson, don't put so much faith in a company. They will always betray you for more money.To be honest, it isn't even a betrayal since all they want is money anyway.

Get a PC.

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#10 racing1750
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Well Gears3 and FM4 in 2011 will keep MS hardcore for me :P
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#11 GrabTheYayo
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LMAO!! Be happy with what u got manocelot1994
dude theres a sex game in the making for kinect. look at your sig. that is the route of console gaming

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#12 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

You're blaming Nintendo for Microsoft's failures? :lol: What ever helps you sleep at night...

GrabTheYayo

im blaming them for starting a trend...if wii wasnt motion control then kinect and the ps move would not have been made

Nintendo continues to support long time Nintendo fans with great games, do you can't blame them for Microsoft abandoning their hardcore base. No one is to blame but Microsoft themselves. They could have continued to make core first party titles, but instead they went Nintendo's rout on the outside, just copying what they could see on the surface, but not the internal structure. In other words, they are birdmen.

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#13 randomguy15
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[QUOTE="ocelot1994"]LMAO!! Be happy with what u got manGrabTheYayo

dude theres a sex game in the making for kinect. look at your sig. that is the route of console gaming

You don't have to buy it, and it won't be released. It seems like you just want to complain, look at the bright side.

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I feel ya bro

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#15 Basinboy
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Kinect has me worried due to the reception it's received from developers and consumers alike. MS seems to be intent on using Kinect to cover casual games while largely ignoring its use in enhancing or revolutionizing established gameplay mechanics. But as for the lack of exclusives, I see it more as MS has dried up its tap and has only a few franchises remaining and needs to reinvent itself by funding new IP projects.

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#16 WildDangles92
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You do realize theres this little thing called GDC, or maybe even E3 where they will announce new games. They probably dont have any announced now because they dont feel its the best time. Try being patient, it helps

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#17 meatgrinderz
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I agree, it's mostly Nintendo's fault with their endless supply of Mario, Yoshi, Princess, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Etc games... Nintendo, B.I.H.

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#18 Richymisiak
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who in the real world actually cares THAT much about exclusives? If an excellent game comes to a console - woohoo that console has an excellent game for its owners to enjoy, regardless of whether it comes to another console as well. At the end of the day, the 360 got loads of excellent games this year. And you know what? there'll be some excellent games coming to it next year, regardless of whether those games are exclusive or not. It's the same with every console.
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#19 lawlessx
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You do realize theres this little thing called GDC, or maybe even E3 where they will announce new games. They probably dont have any announced now because they dont feel its the best time. Try being patient, it helps

WildDangles92

This was my mindset afew months ago,but now microsoft is giving off the impression that kinect is the future for the 360. While that doesn't mean the 360 wont get any core titles;it does mean that microsoft has shifted into a different direction and aren't putting the fans that supported them first.

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#20 kuraimen
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M$ is the least company I would trust to make the industry better, on the contrary, they just don't operate that way and that's why I don't buy from them.
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#21 razgriz_101
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Microsoft is definitely getting more greedy. Hopefully Sony will have some good competition and humble them back to reality.

lild1425

they are all equally as greedy end of.They are companies, their main goals are to make money to keep shareholders happy sorry but thats the way the corporate/commercial world works.

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#22 FIipMode
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It isn't Nintendos fault, that's all on Microsoft, they decided to copy the casual support that Nintendo was doing and not the core support they are putting out.

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#23 Parasomniac
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360 was going down the tube long before Kinect. The exclusives have been disappearing since 08
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#24 NaveedLife
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PC's....The core gamers machine that will never betray you :P.

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#25 LordSadic
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All they want is the money, and if "casual" money is what they have their eyes on then they are out to get it. You are no longer useful to them, time for you to go.

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#26 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Dude I could say you betrayed MS by selling your 360 lol. They do not owe you anything man get off your high horse and accept change. Hardcore games are still there too.
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#27 meatgrinderz
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All they want is the money, and if "casual" money is what they have their eyes on then they are out to get it. You are no longer useful to them, time for you to go.

LordSadic

Right as opposed to Sony who's main goal is your personal happiness and fulfillment in life :roll:

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#28 mo0ksi
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... I think it's time for you to take a break from gaming.
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#29 cainetao11
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Dude I could say you betrayed MS by selling your 360 lol. They do not owe you anything man get off your high horse and accept change. Hardcore games are still there too.Banjo_Kongfooie
Well said. It's a common thing in today's society, blame someone/thing for your unhappiness. We are rsponsible for ourselves, not MS, Sony, Nintendo. Maybe if TC, would see that this could be a chance to let go of the childishness of "I need exclusives". Why does it affect playing a game if someone somewhere else is doing it on another console? If you were deciding which console to buy I could understand a little, but you already owned it.
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#30 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="LordSadic"]

All they want is the money, and if "casual" money is what they have their eyes on then they are out to get it. You are no longer useful to them, time for you to go.

meatgrinderz

Right as opposed to Sony who's main goal is your personal happiness and fulfillment in life :roll:

I'd prefer the company who sells stuff based on making quality products over manipulation every time.
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Is GrabTheYayo a reference to Scarface? If so, great movie!!

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some of you guys take this stuff way to seriously. just play the damn games and enjoy your system lol.

i mean seriously...when hasnt microsoft done this. it never announces anything early but comes on like gangbusters throughout year. it happens every year so why r you panicking all the sudden if you been here. these cows are/got into your head friend lol. besides, what's it costing you to keep the system anyway, lol? you sell the thing because YOU don't know whats coming out in the next 12 months?? you must have been one of those kids that couldnt wait until christmas morning to open their presents. a pleasant surprise means nothing to you huh. wow!

Sony only announces everything early because they're trying to build hype and catch up in sales...MS doesnt need to. this happens EVERY YEAR. and what else happens every year? the 360 ends up having a much better year than expected and the ps3 doesnt, unless you listen to the cows rhetoric. idk...maybe this is the doom of the 360 and you have the foresight to see it. but i doubt it. MS has shown too many times already that they know what they're doing and they're in it to win it.

here:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=281702

attackofthefanboy.com/news/playstation-3-2011-997/

calm your nerves...

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#33 RickyRevolver
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Motion Gaming should DIE overall

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#34 Floppy_Jim
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some of you guys take this stuff way to seriously. just play the damn games and enjoy your system lol.

i mean seriously...when hasnt microsoft done this. it never announces anything early but comes on like gangbusters throughout year. it happens every year so why r you panicking all the sudden if you been here. these cows are/got into your head friend lol. besides, what's it costing you to keep the system anyway, lol? you sell the thing because YOU don't know whats coming out in the next 12 months?? you must have been one of those kids that couldnt wait until christmas morning to open their presents. a pleasant surprise means nothing to you huh. wow!

Sony only announces everything early because they're trying to build hype and catch up in sales...MS doesnt need to. this happens EVERY YEAR. and what else happens every year? the 360 ends up having a much better year than expected and the ps3 doesnt, unless you listen to the cows rhetoric. idk...maybe this is the doom of the 360 and you have the foresight to see it. but i doubt it. MS has shown too many times already that they know what they're doing and they're in it to win it.

here:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=281702

attackofthefanboy.com/news/playstation-3-2011-997/

calm your nerves...

LucidJubilation

Time for that dude and his list.

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#35 heretrix
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Motion Gaming should DIE overall

RickyRevolver

Why? Because you don't like it?

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#36 LordSadic
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Right as opposed to Sony who's main goal is your personal happiness and fulfillment in life :roll:

meatgrinderz

Never said that, just implied that they are now focusing on another kind of market. Although i dont share the same feeling towards Microsoft, since i have enjoyed kinect for the most part.......please dont kill me.

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#37 Unnatural101
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As some of you may or may not know, i was a huge lemming. But now i feel like M$ has betrayed me. They have left their original costumers to pursue the money and fame like the Wii. Kinect has ruined anything that was good about the 360. The lack of exclusive games this year and next year is proof of this. Console gaming for the hardcore in general is dieing. Sony seems to be the only one left thats actually trying to keep the hardcore games alive. But soon i can also see sony dumping that. maybe not for the PS3 but for the PS4. you can expect 100% casualized next gen consoles from all three companies.

I loved nintendo when i was a kid....but i would have never guessed that it would be them to kill console gaming for me. they have spread a virus. and they need to burn in hell for it.

anyways i sold my xbox. sure im going to miss halo reach and its going to suck not playing gears 3 next year. but one big exclusive per year is not enough to keep a system.

the only hope for console gaming is for a new company to step in next gen and take over the hardcore market. Apple...they can be the savior of this casual virus.

Who els feels this way?

GrabTheYayo

Out of curiosity, do you have a PS3? Do you have a Wii?

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who in the real world actually cares THAT much about exclusives? If an excellent game comes to a console - woohoo that console has an excellent game for its owners to enjoy, regardless of whether it comes to another console as well. At the end of the day, the 360 got loads of excellent games this year. And you know what? there'll be some excellent games coming to it next year, regardless of whether those games are exclusive or not. It's the same with every console.Richymisiak

exactly too many for me to buy

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#39 Keiji993
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some of you guys take this stuff way to seriously. just play the damn games and enjoy your system lol.

i mean seriously...when hasnt microsoft done this. it never announces anything early but comes on like gangbusters throughout year. it happens every year so why r you panicking all the sudden if you been here. these cows are/got into your head friend lol. besides, what's it costing you to keep the system anyway, lol? you sell the thing because YOU don't know whats coming out in the next 12 months?? you must have been one of those kids that couldnt wait until christmas morning to open their presents. a pleasant surprise means nothing to you huh. wow!

Sony only announces everything early because they're trying to build hype and catch up in sales...MS doesnt need to. this happens EVERY YEAR. and what else happens every year? the 360 ends up having a much better year than expected and the ps3 doesnt, unless you listen to the cows rhetoric. idk...maybe this is the doom of the 360 and you have the foresight to see it. but i doubt it. MS has shown too many times already that they know what they're doing and they're in it to win it.

here:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=281702

attackofthefanboy.com/news/playstation-3-2011-997/

calm your nerves...

LucidJubilation
you should get your facts right before you say something. It's a FACT that Microsoft has the most games announced early AND the most time for them to come out.
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#40 LucidJubilation
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[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

[QUOTE="LordSadic"]

All they want is the money, and if "casual" money is what they have their eyes on then they are out to get it. You are no longer useful to them, time for you to go.

lx_theo

Right as opposed to Sony who's main goal is your personal happiness and fulfillment in life :roll:

I'd prefer the company who sells stuff based on making quality products over manipulation every time.

move is a rip-off and a manipulation....The Move bundle is around 99 dollars, second controller 49.99, navigation controller 29.99. That's a 180 dollars not included tax. But the thing is if you want to play WITH somebody in a game you have to buy all that again...360 dollars in total. Motion control games aren't meant to be played by urself. So u'll probably have to spend that 360. anyone would be better off buying a Kinect since it can scan multiple people at once for less the cost. hell, they'd be better even buying a Kinect bundle even for a little extra cash.

most of the games for move u need to buy a 2nd Move remote or nav controller for in order to play them properly to. Which ends up costing more than buying a Kinect anyway. Its pointless, a rip off, a manipulation to make people spend more on a crap device that they trapped u into spending more on.

Sony manipulates users to...the whole art to a successful business is the manipulation of the consumer. so please stop with the MS is the evil empire bullcrap.

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#41 FastEddie2121
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So amazing multiplat games aren't hardcore, let alone are not "real games" and shouldn't be acknowledged?? As the year ends most of the top GOTYs are those tainted multplats. Since the ps3s platform GOTY is a multiplat, that must mean that Sony is slipping allowing multiplats to dominate its system, and that obviouslly means they don't care about its dedicated fanbase. Of course thats absolute bollocks but thats alot of what the tcs post is sounding like. Play great games, enjoy them. Expecting a business to cater to your personal joy and happiness is naive and a sure fire way to end up being miserable.
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#42 heretrix
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Sony manipulates users to...the whole art to a successful business is the manipulation of the consumer. so please stop with the MS is the evil empire bullcrap.

LucidJubilation

I really don't understand how people don't know that marketing is pure manipulation. It is THE art of manipulation. It's sole purpose is to get you to buy company A's product over company B's. It's mind boggling how naive people are about that in here.

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#43 hexashadow13
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I agree with you for the most part. I think Microsoft is prolly going to end up pushing most of their hardcore games onto the PC eventually it feels to me with the 360 as primarily for casuals. So Microsoft didn't betray anyone, just moved stuff around AFAIK. But you want Apple to cater to the hardcore? You better be kidding or we're gonna be having some trouble.
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#44 Crazyguy105
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lol I love how you blame Nintendo for everything.

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#45 paradigm68
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Seems really strange of you to sell your 360 just cause the future lineup is disappointing and bad. The 360 has been out for what 4 or 5 years? There have been TONS of great games that came out for it in that time. Besides why didn't you think of the multiplats? There are like 20+ amazing looking games that will be coming in 2011, just cause they aren't 360 exclusive doesn't mean you couldn't enjoy them. Yet if you didn't have many 360 games, friends, or saves then maybe you switching is the best thing to do, I mean PS3 is doing great in multiplats and exclusives, PC also.
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#46 ampiva
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[ ]console gaming [ ]hardcore" Pick one. Also. Apple? Really?
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#47 LucidJubilation
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[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]

some of you guys take this stuff way to seriously. just play the damn games and enjoy your system lol.

i mean seriously...when hasnt microsoft done this. it never announces anything early but comes on like gangbusters throughout year. it happens every year so why r you panicking all the sudden if you been here. these cows are/got into your head friend lol. besides, what's it costing you to keep the system anyway, lol? you sell the thing because YOU don't know whats coming out in the next 12 months?? you must have been one of those kids that couldnt wait until christmas morning to open their presents. a pleasant surprise means nothing to you huh. wow!

Sony only announces everything early because they're trying to build hype and catch up in sales...MS doesnt need to. this happens EVERY YEAR. and what else happens every year? the 360 ends up having a much better year than expected and the ps3 doesnt, unless you listen to the cows rhetoric. idk...maybe this is the doom of the 360 and you have the foresight to see it. but i doubt it. MS has shown too many times already that they know what they're doing and they're in it to win it.

here:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=281702

attackofthefanboy.com/news/playstation-3-2011-997/

calm your nerves...

Keiji993

you should get your facts right before you say something. It's a FACT that Microsoft has the most games announced early AND the most time for them to come out.

lmao, when did i say anything about "facts"? ur posts doesn't even really make any sense anyway...what are you saying exactly? are you saying that the Xbox 360 has more games announced than Sony? whats with all these ps3 will rule 2011 threads then? cows are already admitting defeat?? or are they...wait, what are you saying exactly :? did you just wake up?

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#48 exiledsnake
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]who in the real world actually cares THAT much about exclusives? If an excellent game comes to a console - woohoo that console has an excellent game for its owners to enjoy, regardless of whether it comes to another console as well. At the end of the day, the 360 got loads of excellent games this year. And you know what? there'll be some excellent games coming to it next year, regardless of whether those games are exclusive or not. It's the same with every console.

Exclusives do matter in the real world actually. Well, at least some did like Halo 3, GeoW, SMG, SSBB, Crysis, SC2, MGS4 and GT5. These exclusive games have the influence to make a consumer buy the system the games are exclusive to. But of course exclusives don't really matter as much now since anybody who is a gamer already owns at least one current gen game system. Having said that, anybody(especially Wii-only owners) who would be looking for a 2nd system would surely look at the exclusive game library and services before making a decision.
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#49 LordSadic
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Seems really strange of you to sell your 360 just cause the future lineup is disappointing and bad. The 360 has been out for what 4 or 5 years? There have been TONS of great games that came out for it in that time. Besides why didn't you think of the multiplats? There are like 20+ amazing looking games that will be coming in 2011, just cause they aren't 360 exclusive doesn't mean you couldn't enjoy them. Yet if you didn't have many 360 games, friends, or saves then maybe you switching is the best thing to do, I mean PS3 is doing great in multiplats and exclusives, PC also. paradigm68

The 360 is worth keeping it for the Arcade titles alone!!!

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#50 DarkGamer007
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Selling a system is never a good idea. Also the 360 has some exclusives coming next year that we don't even know. Sure their focus on kinect is... frustrating, but you shouldn't feel betrayed from a major company.

randomguy15


True words spoken right there, as much as I disliked the Gamecube, I now regret selling it :( Besides what if Kinect gets a bunch of more "core" games in the comming years like Steal Battalion?