Why is Microsoft supporting the PC and Sony isn't?
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Huh, what the hell are you talking about? Sony is supporting pcgaming far more than Microsoft doeWhy is Microsoft supporting the PC and Sony isn't?
bphan
Huh, what the hell are you talking about? Sony is supporting pcgaming far more than Microsoft doe[QUOTE="bphan"]
Why is Microsoft supporting the PC and Sony isn't?
AdrianWerner
I can only think of one major series that Sony has on PC and that's Everquest, but that was in 1999. What are some others?
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I'm talking about PC gaming.
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Pretty facepalm worthy. Why do you go out of your way to bash the ps3/sony? :P
bphan
How am I bashing Sony? Stop being sensitive.
Lulz, so sorry.
in last three years Sony published those PC games:I can only think of one major series that Sony has on PC and that's Everquest, but that was in 1999. What are some others?
bphan
EverQuest II: Sentinel's Fate
EverQuest II: Rise of Kunark
Pirates of the Burning SeaFreeRealms
Vanguard
in last three years Micirost published just one pc game: Viva Pinata..and that was in 2007
also...Sony has couple times moee upcoming pc games in their line-up than MS does
in last three years Sony published those PC games:[QUOTE="bphan"]
I can only think of one major series that Sony has on PC and that's Everquest, but that was in 1999. What are some others?
AdrianWerner
EverQuest II: Sentinel's Fate
EverQuest II: Rise of Kunark
Pirates of the Burning Sea
FreeRealms
Vanguard
in last three years Micirost published just one pc game: Viva Pinata..and that was in 2007
also...Sony has couple times moee upcoming pc games in their line-up than MS does
Didn't Microsoft published Halo, Halo2, Viva Pinata1, 2 and soon to be Fable 3, and Natal on PC? What are upcoming Sony games for PC?
Huh, what the hell are you talking about? Sony is supporting pcgaming far more than Microsoft doe
AdrianWerner
in last three years Sony published those PC games:[QUOTE="bphan"]
I can only think of one major series that Sony has on PC and that's Everquest, but that was in 1999. What are some others?
AdrianWerner
EverQuest II: Sentinel's Fate
EverQuest II: Rise of Kunark
Pirates of the Burning SeaFreeRealms
Vanguard
in last three years Micirost published just one pc game: Viva Pinata..and that was in 2007
also...Sony has couple times moee upcoming pc games in their line-up than MS does
I see, though why are you just counting the last 3 years? Is something special about the last 3 years?In past MS used to support pcgaming heavily, but those times are long gone. They used to have very strong pc deivision, but they torn it to pieces and then threw into trash. As I already have written MS in last three years has published just one pc game, in the last two years they didn;t publish any. Sony might be odoing pcgaming just as a bonuis, but their recent line-up still manages to completely dwarf Microsoft one. What;s more..they actualy manufacture those pc games, while MS doesn't (for example you can't even buy Gears of War on PC anymore a it stopped bing published years ago).Didn't Microsoft published Halo, Halo2, Viva Pinata1, 2 and soon to be Fable 3, and Natal on PC? What are upcoming Sony games for PC?
bphan
From upcoming games Sony has Agency, DC Online, Kung Fu Hustle and rumored next Planetside. Plus they continue to support their existing pc titles with new add-ons. By comparision MS only has a port of Fable 3 scheudled, once again Sony wins. They might be small fishes in PC gaming, but compared to MS which releases one port every three years or so, they apear as giants
I see, though why are you just counting the last 3 years? Is something special about the last 3 years?SaltyMeatballsI counted that much solely to include at least one game from MS. if I would really count only the current times then MS would have zero games.
In past MS used to support pcgaming heavily, but those times are long gone. They used to have very strong pc deivision, but they torn it to pieces and then threw into trash. As I already have written MS in last three years has published just one pc game, in the last two years they didn;t publish any. Sony might be odoing pcgaming just as a bonuis, but their recent line-up still manages to completely dwarf Microsoft one. What;s more..they actualy manufacture those pc games, while MS doesn't (for example you can't even buy Gears of War on PC anymore a it stopped bing published years ago).[QUOTE="bphan"]
Didn't Microsoft published Halo, Halo2, Viva Pinata1, 2 and soon to be Fable 3, and Natal on PC? What are upcoming Sony games for PC?
AdrianWerner
From upcoming games Sony has Agency, DC Online, Kung Fu Hustle and rumored next Planetside. Plus they continue to support their existing pc titles with new add-ons. By comparision MS only has a port of Fable 3 scheudled, once again Sony wins. They might be small fishes in PC gaming, but compared to MS which releases one port every three years or so, they apear as giants
Sony has an MMO division and Microsoft doesn't. MMOs are dominant on PC. Sony creates MMOs for PC.In past MS used to support pcgaming heavily, but those times are long gone. They used to have very strong pc deivision, but they torn it to pieces and then threw into trash. As I already have written MS in last three years has published just one pc game, in the last two years they didn;t publish any. Sony might be odoing pcgaming just as a bonuis, but their recent line-up still manages to completely dwarf Microsoft one. What;s more..they actualy manufacture those pc games, while MS doesn't (for example you can't even buy Gears of War on PC anymore a it stopped bing published years ago).[QUOTE="bphan"]
Didn't Microsoft published Halo, Halo2, Viva Pinata1, 2 and soon to be Fable 3, and Natal on PC? What are upcoming Sony games for PC?
AdrianWerner
From upcoming games Sony has Agency, DC Online, Kung Fu Hustle and rumored next Planetside. Plus they continue to support their existing pc titles with new add-ons. By comparision MS only has a port of Fable 3 scheudled, once again Sony wins. They might be small fishes in PC gaming, but compared to MS which releases one port every three years or so, they apear as giants
MS must be doing it for a reason, or maybe PC gaming is really dead.of course. They view pcgaming as direct competitor to their own gaming platform (Xbox line of consoles). It doesn't make sense to support your competitorMS must be doing it for a reason,.SaltyMeatballs
Fable III?Zero5000XIt did came as surprise to me. I guess they want to use it as a device to push Natal into pcgaming, like they tried with GFWL and Gears1
Sony has an MMO division and Microsoft doesn't. MMOs are dominant on PC. Sony creates MMOs for PC.Zero5000XSo? Doesn't change the fact that Sony is giving pcgaming more support than MS does. Also...MS used to have strategy division...and sim division...strategy and sims are dominant on PC, but this didn't stop MS from closing them down.
Also..MS actualy used to have a MMO division, they just canceled all the games it was supposed to develop and publish
It did came as surprise to me. I guess they want to use it as a device to push Natal into pcgaming, like they tried with GFWL and Gears1 So they obviously still support PC, and more specifically GFWL, enough to bring one of their major releases to it.[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Fable III?AdrianWerner
So? Doesn't change the fact that Sony is giving pcgaming more support than MS does. Also...MS used to have strategy division...and sim division...strategy and sims are dominant on PC, but this didn't stop MS from closing them down.[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Sony has an MMO division and Microsoft doesn't. MMOs are dominant on PC. Sony creates MMOs for PC.AdrianWerner
Also..MS actualy used to have a MMO division, they just canceled all the games it was supposed to develop and publish
Windows doesn't really have any competition on the PC gaming front. Microsoft doesn't have as much reason to support it other than to push GFWL further and I get they feeling they are caring less and less about that as time goes on.Well, you could say that (or rather that they're planning to support it, as Fable 3 isn;t out yet), but Sony still is much bigger pcgaming supporter though.So they obviously still support PC, and more specifically GFWL, enough to bring one of their major releases to it.Zero5000X
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Huh, what the hell are you talking about? Sony is supporting pcgaming far more than Microsoft doe How?[QUOTE="bphan"]
Why is Microsoft supporting the PC and Sony isn't?
Jamex1987
By releasing many times more pc games for it and by having many times more pc games in development than MS does.
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]It did came as surprise to me. I guess they want to use it as a device to push Natal into pcgaming, like they tried with GFWL and Gears1 So they obviously still support PC, and more specifically GFWL, enough to bring one of their major releases to it.One game in the past 3 years is pretty weak considering they used to publish around 5-10 PC games a year. Adrian is right. But who's so say Move won't work on PC.[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Fable III?Zero5000X
Move has no substantial benefit to Windows users, nor any benefit to Sony to bring it over. They want to push PS3s and software with the Move.
Natal can be used for non-gaming purposes, and I'm sure it's a big part of Microsoft's overall strategy. I was watching Iron Man 2 the other day, and at the part where he... [spoiler] dissects the "city" and finds it's a new element [/spoiler] ... I was like, "Wow, Natal will be the beginning of the realization of this tech."
Same with Minority Report. It was kind of ironic when Sony demo'd the dorkish-lollypop interpretation of that part of the movie with Move. Natal is the real deal when it comes to that kind of stuff.
Windows doesn't really have any competition on the PC gaming front. Microsoft doesn't have as much reason to support it other than to push GFWL further and I get they feeling they are caring less and less about that as time goes on.Zero5000XOch, sure. But you're just giving reasons why MS isn't supporting it. I know and understand why MS is doing this, I just find it funny that those reasons lead to this bizzare situation when Sony has became bigger pcgaming supporter than Microsoft
How?[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Huh, what the hell are you talking about? Sony is supporting pcgaming far more than Microsoft doe
AdrianWerner
By releasing many times more pc games for it and by having many times more pc games in development than MS does.
MMOs? What about DX11, WIndows 7 and all those advancements in PC games.MMOs? What about DX11 and all those advancements in PC games. Jamex1987Lol..what advacements? There's barely any in dx11 when it comes to actual games. Hardly any title bothers using it. Plus the recent additions MS made into pcgaming actualy hurt the platform (attempt to make us pay for online, then pushing P2P gaming, and trying to force vista adoption by excluding dx10 from XP)
Lol..what advacements? There's barely any in dx11 when it comes to actual games. Plus the recent additions MS made into pcgaming actualy hurt the platform (attempt to make us pay for online, then pushing P2P gaming, and trying to force vista adoption by excluding dx10 from XP) How do you know DX10 could have been added to WIndows XP? MS has done a lot more than Sony when it comes to PC gaming. MMos are basically the most profitable venture when it comes to PC gaming so i can see why Sony published those games. I have never heard of them to be honest. Providing the tools to create great games is much better than publishing some subscription games.[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]MMOs? What about DX11 and all those advancements in PC games. AdrianWerner
Lol..what advacements? There's barely any in dx11 when it comes to actual games. Hardly any title bothers using it. Plus the recent additions MS made into pcgaming actualy hurt the platform (attempt to make us pay for online, then pushing P2P gaming, and trying to force vista adoption by excluding dx10 from XP) Yea, exclusing XP for DX10 really hurt it as XP is still the most used OS. Hardly any games use DX10 at all and DX11 isn't looking like its going to do much better.[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]MMOs? What about DX11 and all those advancements in PC games. AdrianWerner
Nobody is saying differently. What I'm talking about is current situation. And currently Sony is supporting Pcgaming more than Microsoft does.MS has done a lot more than Sony when it comes to PC gaming.
Jamex1987
Unlike Microsoft, Sony doesn't control Wintel PC's ecosystem. When Microsoft says AMD64, others IA32-to-64bit paths are rendered financially unviable e.g. IBM PowerPC 615 (IA32-to-POWER64), Intel Itanium (IA32-to-IA64).Why is Microsoft supporting the PC and Sony isn't?
bphan
Nobody is saying differently. What I'm talking about is current situation. And currently Sony is supporting Pcgaming more than Microsoft does. Microsoft supports PC gaming with common graphics middlewaree.g. Direct3D API leadership.[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]
MS has done a lot more than Sony when it comes to PC gaming.
AdrianWerner
Lol..what advacements? There's barely any in dx11 when it comes to actual games. Hardly any title bothers using it. Plus the recent additions MS made into pcgaming actualy hurt the platform (attempt to make us pay for online, then pushing P2P gaming, and trying to force vista adoption by excluding dx10 from XP) Did you forget Xbox1 to Xbox360 upgrade path?[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]MMOs? What about DX11 and all those advancements in PC games. AdrianWerner
MMOs? What about DX11 and all those advancements in PC games. Jamex1987Lol..what advacements? There's barely any in dx11 when it comes to actual games. Hardly any title bothers using it. Plus the recent additions MS made into pcgaming actualy hurt the platform (attempt to make us pay for online, then pushing P2P gaming, and trying to force vista adoption by excluding dx10 from XP) Yea, exclusing XP for DX10 really hurt it as XP is still the most used OS. Hardly any games use DX10 at all and DX11 isn't looking like its going to do much better. The problem is UE3 engine.
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