Microsoft is still not doing what it should be doing.

A recent article from gamespot says that MS is trying to reclaim their identy as a console for rpg games with the zenimax acquisition.

and the author has a point, ms did have rpg's that made the system more interesting, with games like fable (II) , mass effect and the elder scrolls morrowind.

But that was never the gist of the system. What pushed sony of the throne (for a short while) was xbox live and the xbox 360. It was popular because of party chat, its price, its controller.

The exclusives were nice and being a console that had pc games as well has given the system traction but the identity of the xbox is its social platform, it was the bro station.

Rpg's is not going to bring back that identity. Heck this is not 2011 either. They trying to steal players from sony which is king in single player adventures with what, bethesda? skyrim doesn't even make the top 35 of best selling games on the ps3, it's number 3 on x360

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_3_video_games

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Xbox_360_video_games

Microsoft is paying to keep games off of PS. They're doing the exact opposite of what they have been preaching. They've given up on creating their own new IP after so many misfires this gen. It's really pathetic to see.

They're not giving anyone a reason to buy an XSX over a PS5. Sony will outsell them 3:1 again and the soy boys in Redmond will be left wondering how a smaller Japanese company keeps kicking their ass.

I want a faithful Morrowind remaster. And not a shitty remaster like Nintendos.

What you don't see is that this is not for the Xbox, this is for gamepass and MS future as a Netflix like subscription to games.

You have a point most of this games Bethesda own will not make PS owners jump ship, some many do it or hell not jump just get an xbox alone side its playstation if they don't already own a PC.

What do you mean they aren't giving reasons to buy an XSX? Exclusives! What you Sony fanboys claim are the end all be all of either side! Fallout, Starfield, TES, Doom....if those go exclusive, that's a freaking whopper of a reason.

there so much else they could do, I for one like magic duels, and magic arena on the pc is wildly popular, they could push the devs to bring it to the xbox.

Maybe they can push bethesda to higher levels who knows, but I doubt that's going to be the case. So I, as an xbox player, gain nothing from this

that gamepass thing is wildly overrated, games aren't movies or tv shows. I have had gamepass for over 6 months now and every game on it I haven't played longer than couple of hours because those games simply don't interested me, the games that interested me I already bought or are not on there.

When you look at popularity of games , what do you get, fifa, gta V, world of tanks , fortnite, call of duty they all use different mechanics of profit, or are simply not going to be on gamepass on release because they're too popular.

Gamepass is good for bad games or games that have released some time ago but that's not going to be a major system seller in the long run.

Good games is what make a system sell, not a collection of old games and various games that aren't major system sellers

just like ps now. the only difference we get high end exclusives on top of the ps now. plus i see less games going to gamepass from third party because there not going to miss out on 70 dollar price tag unlees gamepass goes up in price.

Funny how cows were for Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo before they were against it. MS could bring RPGs to Series X and cows would just say "not one I wanna play, I only wanna play the ones not on Xbox".

[shoulder shrug]

Not sure how this is a bad idea for Microsoft. Seems like people are putting in a lot of work to try and make it seem that way. Still waiting on a "good" argument though.

Sometimes you just have to tip your hat and say "good move".

Respectfully, I think MS is finally achieving the intended idea of XBox. Its very name stood for Direct-X Box and was meant to push the programming interface and software developed for PCs in the "core" gaming world, and to distill the PC gaming experience on a games-focused platform. The X-Box has had a rocky road, but it's now almost truly integrated with their PC gaming platform. It only looks like they are f*cking up if you think the X-Box should be a Nintendo. That wasn't the long-term vision when the brand started.

I think it's a big move in the right direction. People want diversity within their game choices and at some point this will really strengthen their Gamepass lineup.

I wasn't sure how serious MS was with Xbox and I was on the fence as whether to put too much money into them this gen or not. After this move I feel MUCH more confident next gen that they aren't going anywhere anytime soon and are here to play ball. I'll support them a lot more next gen just as I did the gen before this one. MS has been killing it the last couple years with the moves they have been making and it's only a matter of time before the investments start paying huge dividends.

SONY and Nintendo only fanboys are in for a rude awakening if they think this won't have a major impact on the gaming industry.

It's sad but also exciting.. I'm torn, but I think I like it more overall for the industry. Although it also means that the push for an all digital future is coming faster than I would have liked, so that's my personal dilemma.

I will buy the games in their physical form regardless of what happens, so it doesn't effect me yet in one way or the other this go around anyways.

It was already far beyond that more than a decade ago, it may have initially started as console that ran popular pc games and had pc power behind it. It's not what made it so popular, it's the xbox live service that changed everything, a standardized social platform on a capable machine.

Sony has everything now what made the x360 popular and they are way more popular because ms fucked up with the xboxone launch. but playstation is still playstation, it invests mainly in single player adventures yet it still has a platform to cater multiplats and social gaming.

What xbox needed to do is invest in multiplayer games and that would have brought back a lot of gamers. This , this is just a drop in the ocean.

It don't see what nintendo has to do with this.

@commander: Nintendo has nothing to do with it. I used their name just because they, and Sega, and to a lesser extent others, defined "what a console should be" for the collective consciousness.

I would argue your definition of what MS is doing wrong is rooted in that. MS doesn't want to or need to dominate the hardware space - not by investing in more "killer MP apps". The people who flocked to the 360 for that were people who wanted a more "mature" and modern-featured "Nintendo" (in quotes). That's not what XBox is, no. I think that's ok. The Playstation is filling that niche. XBox is winning - at their own game.

I haven't seen any cow hype those games. I haven't seen anyone talk about Ghostwire at all.

When we're talking about nintendo when it still mattered in this hardware space, we're talking pre - internet consoles. Part of the success of the x360 is based on what it did with the internet and consoles.

The x360 was also very interesting because of the price, and its earlier release date. I'm sure many people bought an x360 when they looked at pc hardware prices back in the day but it is not what kept them there. It's the xboxlive platform that made a lot of xbox fans.

I'm not saying microsoft is doing something wrong, it's just what they're not doing, it would be different if they didn't screw up the xboxone lauch but they did and here we are.

It's also not like the market is saturated, when you look at what games released last gen and this gen, you can see that a lot of devs playing it safe, ms has the money to take chances. To me it looks like a missed opportuninity, from a business standpoint, and for a lot of xbox fans.

Can you prove that Fallout, Starfield, TES, Doom....aren't going to be on PS5 as well as XSX and PC? Because there's no way Microsoft passes up on that revenue and everyone thinks those games still will end up on PS5 anyways.

Give me a new Vegas 2 and I'm happy MS are doing what needs to be done nobody can argue the purchase of Bethesda wasn't impressive.

let's also not forget that the xbox division never made a profit, the investments of the x360 never paid off because they screwed up so bad with the x1 launch. Now they're using the pc as leverage because they dominate that market. But this can blow up in their face,

What makes windows so popular is that it is open ended and there's already a succesfull game platform on there and other competing platforms as well. If they going to try to push their own services too hard they're opening the gates for other operating systems.

It's not like apple is a weak company or that google (android) might not do something with this. The steam machines may have died quickly, when that market opens they have much bigger problem than the money pit xbox is now.

With that, I would just like to say its about damn time. The Xbox brand should have been what it is now since its inception. The disowning of PC gaming was a dumb idea especially when the two platforms are mirroring each other with Direct X. I am glad that Xbox is now PC|Console brand versus the console only approach which never made sense to me.

Yeah I see them purchasing more big Studios so they have more developers on their team they said it them self they want to be the Netflix of gaming. You need content to keep the subscribers and I already can see bunch of crap and fewer hits. I also think Sony not if but when do they plan to go the same route. 10-20 years it will be all digital anyway its all in the cloud reason why Sony made a deal with them. Sad the they i can’t hold a game in my hands is the day i stop playing them, reason why I don’t like PC gaming as much as i used to but I do have a big collection and still buy hard copy when possible

@NathanDrakeSwag: lol.....and Sony aren't paying to keep games off Xbox?

Be serious.

@NathanDrakeSwag: no. They are paying to keep those games off of stadia or amazon buying them. They may as welll reap the revenue off of ES6 and Fallout 5 on PS5.

Sony even joined the MS cloud lol.

You need to read what I wrote, I did say "if those go exclusive" and do you have proof they won't be? Door swings both ways here. Who is everyone?

Anyone on YouTube who has made a video speculating the future of this acquisition

I think the 360's success was in in large part because of the headstart + higher price point of the PS3.

People on youtube are trusted sources and encompass everyone now?

So tell me what AAA game of MS has been released on the PS4 or the Switch for that matter??? its been the small indie games like Cuphead that went to the PS4 & Switch which also got the Ori games, and Minecraft was already on everything before MS bought it.

MS would be smart to keep these games off of the PS5, and get more people to the Xbox and its Game Pass subscriptions service.

MS can easily get that money back in a few years without the need to put its games on the PS5, so i hope they give Sony the middle finger and cows like you can scream but, but they are preaching multiplatform and now not giving games to Sony blah, blah , blah bs. Go cry in your pillow lol.

@xantufrog: more specifically, they began making xbox as an attempt to thwart the dominance of Sony and the then-emerging PS2 over the home console space and to reduce how much market share Sony took from MS focused pc gaming.