Microsoft is winning the software war?

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#1 Michael324
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Nintendo wii is outselling everything else but it's games are in like 3rd place.
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#2 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Mario Kart Wii and WiiFit have outsold everything this gen, if I'm not wrong.
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#3 CTUDude
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Attach Rate 360 can't be beat. I have about 12 360 Games and 6 PS3 games, and I've had my PS3 for 2 years while my 360 for about 3-4 months.
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#4 HistoricalSD
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yes, it is. it's not news that microsoft clearly has devastatngly more critically acclaimed games than nintendo among critics this generation.

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#5 sikanderahmed
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dude you have like 4 threads on 1 page. yes MS is winning in software sales, wii is 3rd coz it has shovelware

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#6 McdonaIdsGuy
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The really important games Exclusives/Multiplats are selling better on 360.
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#7 delta3074
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Nintendo wii is outselling everything else but it's games are in like 3rd place.Michael324
the 360 has the highest software attach rate in history
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#8 navyguy21
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Software SALES , ATTACH RATE, and OVERALL LIBRARY - yes, 360 dominates Software EXCLUSIVE Library - Id say PS3 and 360 are about even IMO. For me, Uncharted is the best game on PS3, and Mass Effect is best on 360
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#9 DarkyC
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The really important games Exclusives/Multiplats are selling better on 360.McdonaIdsGuy

Yes, like R5.:P

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Only in NA do multiplat 360 games sell more than PS3 games. Obviously in JPN, the PS3 version sells more, which is why games like RE5 and SF4 sell more on PS3 worldwide.
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#11 micky4889
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[QUOTE="Michael324"]Nintendo wii is outselling everything else but it's games are in like 3rd place.delta3074
the 360 has the highest software attach rate in history

No i'm pretty sure PS2 still holds that crown.
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#12 HistoricalSD
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Michael324"]Nintendo wii is outselling everything else but it's games are in like 3rd place.micky4889
the 360 has the highest software attach rate in history

No i'm pretty sure PS2 still holds that crown.

um, I don't think so.

halo 3 - 30 % attach rate, 10M on xbox 360 with 30 million sold.

San andreas - nearly 12 # attach rate, 17.3M on PS2 with ~150 million sold

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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="delta3074"]the 360 has the highest software attach rate in historyHistoricalSD

No i'm pretty sure PS2 still holds that crown.

um, I don't think so.

halo 3 - 30 % attach rate, 10M on xbox 360 with 30 million sold.

San andreas - nearly 12 # attach rate, 17.3M on PS2 with ~150 million sold

As of December 31, 2004. PlayStation 2 Hardware Japan - 19,470,000 America - 32,860,000 Europe - 29,060,000 Total - 81,390,000 PlayStation 2 Software Japan - 157,000,000 America - 362,000,000 Europe - 256,000,000 Total - 775,000,000 PlayStation 2 Software-to-Hardware Ratio Japan - 8.064 America - 11.016 Europe - 8.809 Total - 9.522
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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="delta3074"]the 360 has the highest software attach rate in historyHistoricalSD

No i'm pretty sure PS2 still holds that crown.

um, I don't think so.

halo 3 - 30 % attach rate, 10M on xbox 360 with 30 million sold.

San andreas - nearly 12 # attach rate, 17.3M on PS2 with ~150 million sold

That's not how attach rate works.
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I don't believe 360 attach rates at all. Wonder how they count them compared to their competition.

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The only thing high attach rates mean is that no one is buying the systems. Its not an important stat to anybody who matters.

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[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"]

[QUOTE="micky4889"] No i'm pretty sure PS2 still holds that crown.micky4889

um, I don't think so.

halo 3 - 30 % attach rate, 10M on xbox 360 with 30 million sold.

San andreas - nearly 12 # attach rate, 17.3M on PS2 with ~150 million sold

As of December 31, 2004. PlayStation 2 Hardware Japan - 19,470,000 America - 32,860,000 Europe - 29,060,000 Total - 81,390,000 PlayStation 2 Software Japan - 157,000,000 America - 362,000,000 Europe - 256,000,000 Total - 775,000,000 PlayStation 2 Software-to-Hardware Ratio Japan - 8.064 America - 11.016 Europe - 8.809 Total - 9.522

thats coz ps2 has more and cheaper games. if ps2 had same amount of games as 360 and same amount of consoles sold, it wouldnt be even close to 360's attach ratio

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#18 sikanderahmed
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The only thing high attach rates mean is that no one is buying the systems. Its not an important stat to anybody who matters.

DaBrainz

360 is selling more then ps3 yet it has higher attach rate at the same time. Higher attach rate mean people actually buy games on the system ;)

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#19 DaBrainz
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

The only thing high attach rates mean is that no one is buying the systems. Its not an important stat to anybody who matters.

sikanderahmed

360 is selling more then ps3 yet it has higher attach rate at the same time. Higher attach rate mean people actually buy games on the system ;)

The only thing that matters to people in the industry are total sales. Do really think people who make games care about what the attach rate is or do you think they care about how many games are going to sell in total?

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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

The only thing high attach rates mean is that no one is buying the systems. Its not an important stat to anybody who matters.

DaBrainz

360 is selling more then ps3 yet it has higher attach rate at the same time. Higher attach rate mean people actually buy games on the system ;)

The only thing that matters to people in the industry are total sales. Do really think people who make games care about what the attach rate is or do you think they care about how many games are going to sell in total?

Devs have a better chance of getting higher game sales on a system that has higher attach rate rather then the one with lower attach rate.

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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

The only thing high attach rates mean is that no one is buying the systems. Its not an important stat to anybody who matters.

DaBrainz

360 is selling more then ps3 yet it has higher attach rate at the same time. Higher attach rate mean people actually buy games on the system ;)

The only thing that matters to people in the industry are total sales. Do really think people who make games care about what the attach rate is or do you think they care about how many games are going to sell in total?

If there are more 360 world wide than ps3 and their attach rate is higher, how in the world could the ps3 sells more software in total? Just wondering... So yes, people who make games care about these numbers... Not only these numbers but I'm sure their accountants do some research... wouldn't you?
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#22 DaBrainz
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

360 is selling more then ps3 yet it has higher attach rate at the same time. Higher attach rate mean people actually buy games on the system ;)

sikanderahmed

The only thing that matters to people in the industry are total sales. Do really think people who make games care about what the attach rate is or do you think they care about how many games are going to sell in total?

Devs have a better chance of getting higher game sales on a system that has higher attach rate rather then the one with lower attach rate.

Absolutely not, the only thing that the higher attach rate means is that a higher percentage of consumers of a particular install base will purchase a game. The percentage means nothing if the install base is small like the 360 or PS3. Only total sales matter.

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#23 bdum_pshhh
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I'm pretty sure in EA and Ubi's (and a couple more, not sure though) latest financial reports claim that they get more revenue from PS3 game sales than 360.
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#24 navyguy21
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I'm pretty sure in EA and Ubi's (and a couple more, not sure though) latest financial reports claim that they get more revenue from PS3 game sales than 360.bdum_pshhh
You need to look into WHY they had increases, instead of blindly just believing them, Take 2 jump - Bioshock PS3 in 08; Ubisoft jump - Haze in 08; EA jump Orange box PS3 December 07 (reflected in 08 financials) So lets be fair here. All other comparisons show 360 lead in all areas.
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#25 xxThyLordxx
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people need to understand more hardware = lower attach rate and vice versa.
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#26 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="HistoricalSD"]

um, I don't think so.

halo 3 - 30 % attach rate, 10M on xbox 360 with 30 million sold.

San andreas - nearly 12 # attach rate, 17.3M on PS2 with ~150 million sold

sikanderahmed

As of December 31, 2004. PlayStation 2 Hardware Japan - 19,470,000 America - 32,860,000 Europe - 29,060,000 Total - 81,390,000 PlayStation 2 Software Japan - 157,000,000 America - 362,000,000 Europe - 256,000,000 Total - 775,000,000 PlayStation 2 Software-to-Hardware Ratio Japan - 8.064 America - 11.016 Europe - 8.809 Total - 9.522

thats coz ps2 has more and cheaper games. if ps2 had same amount of games as 360 and same amount of consoles sold, it wouldnt be even close to 360's attach ratio

Worst damage control ever. AS OF DECEMBER 31, 2004. PS2 was around for four years old at the time period, 360 is 4 years old. PS2 games were not cheap during 2004.

EDIT: Also, what are you talking about, how does more hardware sold= bigger attach rate? If anything it's the opposite.:?

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#27 -snorlax-
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short answer: hell no

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The really important games Exclusives/Multiplats are selling better on 360.McdonaIdsGuy
Oh really ? The recent two most important ones SF IV and Resident evil 5 sold MORe on the PS3.
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#29 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]The really important games Exclusives/Multiplats are selling better on 360.freeloader_101
Oh really ? The recent two most important ones SF IV and Resident evil 5 sold MORe on the PS3.

True, but thats because both of those games appeal to the eastern audience as well as the western, and both Capcom games didn't sell that much more on the PS3. Usually, if a game appeals to USA and Europe, it will sell more on the 360. If a game is released in all regions, Europe. Japan and USA, it will be almost equal in sales.
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#30 gago-gago
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Yes the 360 has the highest attach rate plus they're quality games too.