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#1 FatedX360
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So to put all the "lulz you can only use Kinect standing up" lashes to rest, MS has revealed to Joystiq that you CAN use Kinect sitting down on software that allows it, which is up to the developer. let me say that again. UP TO THE DEVELOPER. The Kinect-enhanced Dashboard will work with you sitting down.

The following is sourced from Destructoid

"Sure, sometimes I stand up from the couch to shout at my television when playing a frustrating game. But in general, I won't be standing up unless the game calls for it. Wondering if you'll be able to remain planted in your seat when using Microsoft's motion sensing Kinect device? Yes… sometimes.


"Kinect can be used while sitting when an experience is developed with sitting in mind," Microsoft clarified toJoystiq. As an example, Microsoft mentioned Dashboard navigation, which would include things like watching video, Video Kinect chat, and more. Outside of the Dashboard stuff, all of the Kinect offerings we saw at E3 required the player be standing. You think people look silly playingDance Central, imagine what they'd look like trying to play that gamesitting down.

But there likely will be software that will keep the player's buttocks firmly planted in seats -- Microsoft says what was shown earlier this year was "only the tip of the iceberg." Lazy gamers around the globe hope they show us the rest of the the iceberg -- the slothful parts -- before Kinect launches this holiday."


http://www.destructoid.com/yes-you-can-play-some-kinect-enabled-games-sitting-178478.phtml


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#2 Mario1331
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oh so can the wii mote and move though

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#3 Ross_the_Boss6
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It was silly for people to believe it wouldn't work to begin with.

Now it just needs some good games...

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#4 FatedX360
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oh so can the wii mote and move though

Mario1331
The thread was geared more towards the people who believed that Kinect was stand-up only with no sitting feature at all
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I will say this. Even if Kinect won't necessarily be implemented in hardcore gameplay mechanics, it could make accessing the in-game menus for said games (especially RTS's) more convenient than ever, and that alone could attract hardcore players.

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#6 Diviniuz
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Screw sitting down, give me a tread mill tech that can sense movement with Kinect, so I can move around in games that would = auto win for MS! Image playing an RPG like that (/drools)
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#7 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

oh so can the wii mote and move though

FatedX360

The thread was geared more towards the people who believed that Kinect was stand-up only with no sitting feature at all

oh whoever thought that is ignorant honestly

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#8 nervmeister
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Screw sitting down, give me a tread mill tech that can sense movement with Kinect, so I can move around in games that would = auto win for MS! Image playing an RPG like that (/drools)Diviniuz
I'd give that about a decade. So far the only thing we have along the lines of what you're refering to is Number #8 on THIS LIST.

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#9 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Screw sitting down, give me a tread mill tech that can sense movement with Kinect, so I can move around in games that would = auto win for MS! Image playing an RPG like that (/drools)nervmeister
I'd give that about a decade.

I would probably never leave my house ever again
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"]Screw sitting down, give me a tread mill tech that can sense movement with Kinect, so I can move around in games that would = auto win for MS! Image playing an RPG like that (/drools)Diviniuz
I'd give that about a decade.

I would probably never leave my house ever again

Just put up as link for you in my earlier post, BTW.

Not the most convenient tech, apparently (at least for now). :P

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#11 aaronmullan
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But what about those full body games?
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#12 FatedX360
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But what about those full body games?aaronmullan
They're still gonna be developed. like it basically said in the article, developers will allow players to sit down if the software was developed with that in mind.
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But what about those full body games?aaronmullan
yeah, can you play Dance Central sitting down? :roll:
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#14 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]But what about those full body games?wolverine4262
yeah, can you play Dance Central sitting down? :roll:

When the new Paraplegic Edition of the game releases, then yeah of course.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]But what about those full body games?wolverine4262
yeah, can you play Dance Central sitting down? :roll:

No, I mean like the minigame ones where you block the things with your body and stuff. Sure gonna be fun with sitting down.
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"]But what about those full body games?aaronmullan
yeah, can you play Dance Central sitting down? :roll:

No, I mean like the minigame ones where you block the things with your body and stuff. Sure gonna be fun with sitting down.

Why would you wanna play that sitting down?
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That article doesnt clear it up at all. All he says is that there are "features" (voice and video) that work while sitting.

We have yet to see proof of controlling a game through kinect while sitting. You would think that Forza would have been the perfect game for that.

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#18 FatedX360
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"]But what about those full body games?aaronmullan
yeah, can you play Dance Central sitting down? :roll:

No, I mean like the minigame ones where you block the things with your body and stuff. Sure gonna be fun with sitting down.

are you being serious....really?
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"] yeah, can you play Dance Central sitting down? :roll:

No, I mean like the minigame ones where you block the things with your body and stuff. Sure gonna be fun with sitting down.

Why would you wanna play that sitting down?

Why not? People are lazy. I don't see why you would want to play it at all.
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#20 nervmeister
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That article doesnt clear it up at all. All he says is that there are "features" (voice and video) that work while sitting.

We have yet to see proof of controlling a game through kinect while sitting. You would think that Forza would have been the perfect game for that.

clipse479
But that's the type of game where you want to hold something tangible in your hands.....
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#21 heretrix
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This should also go out to people that think it can only do two player games. It's a limitation NOW, but all someone has to do is probably update the API to recognize extra people.

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#22 FatedX360
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That article doesnt clear it up at all. All he says is that there are "features" (voice and video) that work while sitting.

We have yet to see proof of controlling a game through kinect while sitting. You would think that Forza would have been the perfect game for that.

clipse479
Well its apparent that what we've seen so far will be built with standing as their sole idea....its up to the developers if they want to let players sit down. Forza is still pretty early to determine if it will allow people to sit. Yeah. Sure. Some guy was playing Forza while standing up during E3, but then again Forza won't be a launch title.
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Why not? People are lazy. I don't see why you would want to play it at all.

Then dont buy it...
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I wonder how long it will take for this "sitting down game" to appear on Kinect. My guess? Probably never.
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Why not? People are lazy. I don't see why you would want to play it at all.

Then dont buy it...

Ain't gonna :) It just sucks you guys can't play all of those game sitting down. :(
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#26 FatedX360
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I wonder how long it will take for this "sitting down game" to appear on Kinect. My guess? Probably never. Bread_or_Decide
Why would do u say that? bc Microsoft won't let it? MS does nothing but supply the hardware and tech. The fate of Kinect is in the hands of the developers.
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Why not? People are lazy. I don't see why you would want to play it at all.aaronmullan
Then dont buy it...

Ain't gonna :) It just sucks you guys can't play all of those game sitting down. :(

Again why would you wanna play a "full body" game designed for the user to stand, sitting down? That removes half the body.

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#28 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="clipse479"]

That article doesnt clear it up at all. All he says is that there are "features" (voice and video) that work while sitting.

We have yet to see proof of controlling a game through kinect while sitting. You would think that Forza would have been the perfect game for that.

FatedX360
Well its apparent that what we've seen so far will be built with standing as their sole idea....its up to the developers if they want to let players sit down. Forza is still pretty early to determine if it will allow people to sit. Yeah. Sure. Some guy was playing Forza while standing up during E3, but then again Forza won't be a launch title.

Come on man. You know this sounds like they are just tip toeing around the issue. Blaming the devs? And it's pretty fortunate that not a single sit down game exists and they can just say "well no one made a game where you can sit down." Please. Read between the lines man.
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#30 FatedX360
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[QUOTE="FatedX360"][QUOTE="clipse479"]

That article doesnt clear it up at all. All he says is that there are "features" (voice and video) that work while sitting.

We have yet to see proof of controlling a game through kinect while sitting. You would think that Forza would have been the perfect game for that.

Bread_or_Decide
Well its apparent that what we've seen so far will be built with standing as their sole idea....its up to the developers if they want to let players sit down. Forza is still pretty early to determine if it will allow people to sit. Yeah. Sure. Some guy was playing Forza while standing up during E3, but then again Forza won't be a launch title.

Come on man. You know this sounds like they are just tip toeing around the issue. Blaming the devs? And it's pretty fortunate that not a single sit down game exists and they can just say "well no one made a game where you can sit down." Please. Read between the lines man.

Well...they can say that "no one made a sitting game". Its really up to the developers, its common sense. MS just supplied the hardware and tech. Developers are the ones who decide what to do with it. We won't be seeing Forza for a while in my opinion.
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It will be able to work with simple games thats about it. Racing games and Family games. They have shown nothing to prove otherwise. You will never be playing the next HALO using Kinect and you can quote me on that. Unless of course they dumb it down immensely.

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:lol: probably racing games will be the only software that supports sitting down. anything else you have to get up and look like an idiot.
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#34 FatedX360
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It will be able to work with simple games thats about it. They have shown nothing to prove otherwise. You will never be playing the next HALO using Kinect and you can qoute me on that. Unless of course they dumb it down immensely.

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Of course not. Games that were developed strictly for controllers will be just that. I don't expect anyone to think that they will be able to play an FPS on Kinect....yet atleast.
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there were rumoured reports that MS were telling developers to not create games that required sitting....

and here is a Ubisoft developer who are working on the new RTS game R.U.S.E. ...and although it supports the PSMOVE....this is stated at the end..

"Unfortunately for Xbox 360 owners, there are no plans to support Kinect. Girard said the stumbling point was having to play standing up while using Microsoft's rival motion-sensing tech."

if it is true that Kinect can support games while sitting down....then why wouldn't Ubisoft have "sitting in mind" when developing an RTS game????

from what it seems, MS is just not telling the WHOLE truth....so yes it works while sitting down as far as voice commands and the dashboard.....but as far as controlling games...it doesn't seem like it yet.

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#36 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I haven't read the article or any posts. But let me guess....when MS says it can be "used sitting down" they are not really talking about games and gaming. They are talking about how you can still say "Xbox ON" to turn on the console, or swipe your hands around like using an Ipad to chose menues?

I will also guess that lemmings are taking this to mean that every game they buy for kinect will be able to be played sitting down and yet still be more than just waving your arms in the air like you just don't care.

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#37 FatedX360
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I haven't read the article or any posts. But let me guess....when MS says it can be "used sitting down" they are not really talking about games and gaming. They are talking about how you can still say "Xbox ON" to turn on the console, or swipe your hands around like using an Ipad to chose menues?

I will also guess that lemmings are taking this to mean that every game they buy for kinect will be able to be played sitting down and yet still be more than just waving your arms in the air like you just don't care.

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....read the article and posts.....its up to the developers. everything that has ever come out on any console, using any peripheral, or what not, the choices are up to the developer.
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there were rumoured reports that MS were telling developers to not create games that required sitting....

and here is a Ubisoft developer who are working on the new RTS game R.U.S.E. ...and although it supports the PSMOVE....this is stated at the end..

"Unfortunately for Xbox 360 owners, there are no plans to support Kinect. Girard said the stumbling point was having to play standing up while using Microsoft's rival motion-sensing tech."

if it is true that Kinect can support games while sitting down....then why wouldn't Ubisoft have "sitting in mind" when developing an RTS game????

from what it seems, MS is just not telling the WHOLE truth....so yes it works while sitting down as far as voice commands and the dashboard.....but as far as controlling games...it doesn't seem like it yet.

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Maybe they didn't get the memo.
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RTS on Kinect would be weird overall, i mean, i can see how it would work with voice commands, like they did with End War
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I will say this. Even if Kinect won't necessarily be implemented in hardcore gameplay mechanics, it could make accessing the in-game menus for said games (especially RTS's) more convenient than ever, and that alone could attract hardcore players.

nervmeister

If you're playing a game with the controller, why would kinect make navigating in game menus more convenient? I mean, what's more convenient, pushing buttons on a controller that's in your hand already, or putting your controller down and waving your hand around?

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#41 FatedX360
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

I will say this. Even if Kinect won't necessarily be implemented in hardcore gameplay mechanics, it could make accessing the in-game menus for said games (especially RTS's) more convenient than ever, and that alone could attract hardcore players.

ianuilliam

If you're playing a game with the controller, why would kinect make navigating in game menus more convenient? I mean, what's more convenient, pushing buttons on a controller that's in your hand already, or putting your controller down and waving your hand around?

Key word is menus. You don't need reflexes to use menus. I understand your point and the other guy's point. but yeah.
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But that defeats the whole purpose....doesn't it?

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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

I will say this. Even if Kinect won't necessarily be implemented in hardcore gameplay mechanics, it could make accessing the in-game menus for said games (especially RTS's) more convenient than ever, and that alone could attract hardcore players.

FatedX360

If you're playing a game with the controller, why would kinect make navigating in game menus more convenient? I mean, what's more convenient, pushing buttons on a controller that's in your hand already, or putting your controller down and waving your hand around?

Key word is menus. You don't need reflexes to use menus. I understand your point and the other guy's point. but yeah.

I'm not saying anything about needing reflexes. Just that, especially if you are already holding the controller (since he was talking about games that wouldn't use Kinect for the gameplay), pushing left/right/up/down on either the dpad or stick of a controller is easier, quicker, more convenient, and more intuitive than using kinect to navigate menus by waving your arm around.

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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

there were rumoured reports that MS were telling developers to not create games that required sitting....

and here is a Ubisoft developer who are working on the new RTS game R.U.S.E. ...and although it supports the PSMOVE....this is stated at the end..

"Unfortunately for Xbox 360 owners, there are no plans to support Kinect. Girard said the stumbling point was having to play standing up while using Microsoft's rival motion-sensing tech."

if it is true that Kinect can support games while sitting down....then why wouldn't Ubisoft have "sitting in mind" when developing an RTS game????

from what it seems, MS is just not telling the WHOLE truth....so yes it works while sitting down as far as voice commands and the dashboard.....but as far as controlling games...it doesn't seem like it yet.

wizardwd

Maybe they didn't get the memo.

:lol:

I don't know....Ubisoft is a HUGE company.....I'm sure MS would have warned them when first giving them the Kinect SKUs which have been out for quite a while actually.....it probably would have been on the first page of the manual or when the system first boots up...with the screen reading "MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SITTING IN MIND"

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#45 FatedX360
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But that defeats the whole purpose....doesn't it?

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the standing up thing? Of course there will be games that will require you to stand, therefore, it wont defeat the purpose. The Wii was generally introduced to get you on your feet but people don't really do that with the Wii either. Point is. Some games will require standing. Some will allow you to sit. then probably sometime after Kinect has lived a little, we will see a mix of both in a single game.
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The Forza demo at E3 could be played sitting down. :)
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#47 FatedX360
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[QUOTE="FatedX360"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]If you're playing a game with the controller, why would kinect make navigating in game menus more convenient? I mean, what's more convenient, pushing buttons on a controller that's in your hand already, or putting your controller down and waving your hand around?

ianuilliam

Key word is menus. You don't need reflexes to use menus. I understand your point and the other guy's point. but yeah.

I'm not saying anything about needing reflexes. Just that, especially if you are already holding the controller (since he was talking about games that wouldn't use Kinect for the gameplay), pushing left/right/up/down on either the dpad or stick of a controller is easier, quicker, more convenient, and more intuitive than using kinect to navigate menus by waving your arm around.

Yeah I understand, but it'd still be pretty cool if implemented right.
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#48 Dire_Weasel
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The Forza demo at E3 could be played sitting down. :)Ninja-Hippo

You'd think that was true, except that they never let anyone play it in a room where they could sit down.

Also, during the demo, the Auto-accelerate and Auto-brake assists were kept on. The only thing Kinect was "watching" was the driver's hands.

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#49 Afrikanxl
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The Forza demo at E3 could be played sitting down. :)Ninja-Hippo

well live on stage, the guy was standing......then on top of that.....:lol: its obviously fake.....look how the hand on the screen moves before the guy's hand moves.....and he is left there trying to catch up and coordinate the whole thing...lol....hilarious and sad at the same time.

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#50 Riverwolf007
Member since 2005 • 26023 Posts

fattiesaround the world wheeze a sigh of relief.