microsoft lost bioshock, eternal sonata, ninja gaiden, halo2,

These threadse20Dylan

These threads about consoles losing exclusives is stupid. especially about the ones how 360 took all of the ps3's OBVIOUSLY the ps3 has more exclusives left REAL exclusives then microsoft does. most of the 360 exclusive arent exclusive they will be on PC. 360 has lost more exclusives then the ps3. quit saying it the other way around. its not a big deal either way more people can play the great games. these threads are a joke. assassins creed was never a ps3 exclusive by the way. you got DMC4 congrats i hope you guys have fun with the game. anyone wants to post the REAL exclusive list between the two consoles go for it. the ps3 will win in that department everyone knows. ps2 had way more games it wont be different with the ps3e20Dylan

Thats why am not getting a 360 am just going to get all the 360 games on the PC  

DMC3 is on PC. Franchise was already lost.

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Bioshock was never exclusive, Ninja Gaiden 2 is still exclusive as far as we know, so is Eternal Sonata. And Halo 2 going to PC is hardly a blow to MS. The game is ancient.

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Rob2223

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Ganon_919

[QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Vandalvideo

85% or so of the world's PCs say otherwise.

give or take. ;) 

Since I hate using a kb/mouse for games, and have no desire to sit at a desk, I thoughrougly enjoy that I can play some of the best that PCs have to offer, on the 360.dru26

the pc and 360 have nothing to do with each other... make more excuses as to why 360 has lost more exclusives then the ps3

ignore the facts all you want. 360 has lost more exclusives.. most of the 360 games comin out the goodones you can play on the PC.. you got halo 3 and gears which and halo2 is coming to the PC so you got gears have fun. you lost saints row too. and ninja gaiden 2 will be on the ps3 same with eternal sonata. i think you got 2 more rpgs left to go pc or ps3?? doesnt really matter either way e20Dylan

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Dreams-Visions

85% or so of the world's PCs say otherwise.

give or take. ;) 

[QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Vandalvideo

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE. 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Rob2223

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Meu2k7

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE. 

These threads about consoles losing exclusives is stupid. especially about the ones how 360 took all of the ps3's OBVIOUSLY the ps3 has more exclusives left REAL exclusives then microsoft does. most of the 360 exclusive arent exclusive they will be on PC. 360 has lost more exclusives then the ps3. quit saying it the other way around. its not a big deal either way more people can play the great games. these threads are a joke. assassins creed was never a ps3 exclusive by the way. you got DMC4 congrats i hope you guys have fun with the game. anyone wants to post the REAL exclusive list between the two consoles go for it. the ps3 will win in that department everyone knows. ps2 had way more games it wont be different with the ps3e20Dylan

Eternal Sonata is 100% ONLY on 360

Bioshock is ONLY on 360/pc

Ninja Gaiden 2 is in the making ONLY for 360, as ALL Team Ninja other games

Halo 2 is on pc YEARS after on xbox, are you kidding ?

All in all this thread failed from the title

Plus WHO CARES if 360 looses those games anyway ? Noone cared that lost Oblivion, in fact noone cares if 360 looses any game, what i care is that i can plya FF13 on my 360 looking best, something that could not happen on the underpowered PS3

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Vandalvideo

85% or so of the world's PCs say otherwise.

give or take. ;)

are you intentionally trying to be difficult?  like, seriously?  you're trying to be overly technical and in that, you're losing sight of the big picture.

the only question is can you see the forest for the trees, or are you in too deep right now to understand that in the big picture, you can't win this argument? 

The PC (hardware) obviously isn't the operating system.  But for 90% of people who will buy a PC, they are inseperable.  See the forest.  Stop looking at the tree. 

These threads about consoles losing exclusives is stupid. especially about the ones how 360 took all of the ps3's OBVIOUSLY the ps3 has more exclusives left REAL exclusives then microsoft does. most of the 360 exclusive arent exclusive they will be on PC. 360 has lost more exclusives then the ps3. quit saying it the other way around. its not a big deal either way more people can play the great games. these threads are a joke. assassins creed was never a ps3 exclusive by the way. you got DMC4 congrats i hope you guys have fun with the game. anyone wants to post the REAL exclusive list between the two consoles go for it. the ps3 will win in that department everyone knows. ps2 had way more games it wont be different with the ps3e20Dylan

You can try to misdirect whats going on all you like the simple truth for the moment is devs can't make money releasing games on the PS3.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Meu2k7

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE.

Unless Microsoft is getting paid royalties for each game sold on the PC, like they do on the 360, it isn't their platform.  

good thing my PC wont give me 3 red lights. or else id be pretty mad :Pe20Dylan

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Dreams-Visions

85% or so of the world's PCs say otherwise.

give or take. ;)

are you intentionally trying to be difficult?  like, seriously?  you're trying to be overly technical and in that, you're losing sight of the big picture.

the only question is can you see the forest for the trees, or are you in too deep right now to understand that in the big picture, you can't win this argument? 

The PC (hardware) obviously isn't the operating system.  But for 90% of people who will buy a PC, they are inseperable.  See the forest.  Stop looking at the tree. 

good thing my PC wont give me 3 red lights. or else id be pretty mad :Pe20Dylan

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

sonicmj1

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE.

Unless Microsoft is getting paid royalties for each game sold on the PC, like they do on the 360, it isn't their platform.  

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Vandalvideo

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE.

Well yes but it grands them exclusitivty as part of the contract, as said by one of the EPICS GAMES developers, if they use GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE for the PC Version, then the PS3 will be cut off from cross-platform because of microsoft.

That Tag isnt ownership, but it alienates the competition. 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Rob2223

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Meu2k7

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE.

Well yes but it grands them exclusitivty as part of the contract, as said by one of the EPICS GAMES developers, if they use GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE for the PC Version, then the PS3 will be cut off from cross-platform because of microsoft.

That Tag isnt ownership, but it alienates the competition. 

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

sonicmj1

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE.

Unless Microsoft is getting paid royalties for each game sold on the PC, like they do on the 360, it isn't their platform.

do us a favor and let us know when we can play these games on Linux, Unix, Solaris, OSX, OS2/Warp or whatever you contend these games will be available for play on in the near future.

stop trying to argue this pseudo point.  if the games start or stay on Windows, Microsoft wins.  It's that simple.  They don't need royalties to win here. 

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Vandalvideo

85% or so of the world's PCs say otherwise.

give or take. ;)

are you intentionally trying to be difficult? like, seriously? you're trying to be overly technical and in that, you're losing sight of the big picture.

the only question is can you see the forest for the trees, or are you in too deep right now to understand that in the big picture, you can't win this argument?

The PC (hardware) obviously isn't the operating system. But for 90% of people who will buy a PC, they are inseperable. See the forest. Stop looking at the tree.

do you understand that it really doesn't matter if Microsoft "owns" the stuff or not?  it advances Microsoft's agenda, whether they reap directly (royalties) or indirectly (furthering sales of the OS and other Microsoft products not only to you but globally, subsequently).  Microsoft wins in a myriad of ways.  Again, see the whole picture.  stop focusing on the tree.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Ganon_919"]

Poor Poor Microsoft, losing all their exclusives to Microsoft like that!

Bad Microsoft! Get your own exclusives!

Dreams-Visions

85% or so of the world's PCs say otherwise.

give or take. ;)

are you intentionally trying to be difficult?  like, seriously?  you're trying to be overly technical and in that, you're losing sight of the big picture.

the only question is can you see the forest for the trees, or are you in too deep right now to understand that in the big picture, you can't win this argument? 

The PC (hardware) obviously isn't the operating system.  But for 90% of people who will buy a PC, they are inseperable.  See the forest.  Stop looking at the tree. 

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Vandalvideo

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE.

Unless Microsoft is getting paid royalties for each game sold on the PC, like they do on the 360, it isn't their platform.

That's not the same thing. Valve, Epic, and ID only get royalties for games made on their engine. Microsoft gets money for every single game sold on the Xbox 360, regardless of who makes it or whose engine is used for it. That is because they have full control over the platform, so it's their platform.

Unless there's something about Games for Windows that I don't know (which I doubt), Microsoft gets no money for games sold on PCs that they don't have some kind of direct involvement with. As a result, the PC is an open platform that Microsoft doesn't control.  

ignore the facts all you want. 360 has lost more exclusives.. most of the 360 games comin out the goodones you can play on the PC.. you got halo 3 and gears which and halo2 is coming to the PC so you got gears have fun. you lost saints row too. and ninja gaiden 2 will be on the ps3 same with eternal sonata. i think you got 2 more rpgs left to go pc or ps3?? doesnt really matter either way e20Dylan

Dreams-Vision: You raelize there are millions of other companies that benefit from it as well. By that logic, they own the platform as well.Vandalvideo

lots of companies benefit.  Microsoft benefits the most.  A sheer peek at their net earnings from last quarter help us further understand that anything that advances the prevalence and omnipresence of Windows is good for Microsoft.  And while some know that they can put another OS on their PC, that's simply too much for 90% of computer users, so as far as they are concerned, PC = Windows.  Whether that's the truth to the letter of the law is inconsequential.  It's what peole think that creates their reality.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

Microsoft still has bioshock exclusive, on 360, and windows vista. eternal sonata wtf?. Ninja gaiden is a 4 year old port. Halo 2 is still exclusively microsofts only on vista and Xbox

Dreams-Visions

Actually they do, because all the games that are on both 360 and PC will have the "GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE" tag on it from now own, used in Vista Gaming LIVE.

Unless Microsoft is getting paid royalties for each game sold on the PC, like they do on the 360, it isn't their platform.

do us a favor and let us know when we can play these games on Linux, Unix, Solaris, OSX, OS2/Warp or whatever you contend these games will be available for play on in the near future.

stop trying to argue this pseudo point. if the games start or stay on Windows, Microsoft wins. It's that simple. They don't need royalties to win here.

There's some truth to what you're saying there, because if Microsoft didn't benefit from PC gaming, they wouldn't be pushing it as much as they have been of late. But they definitely benefit more from games sold on the 360 than games sold on the PC, because the PC benefits are much more indirect and less tangible. 

The way it probably works out on a benefit scale is something like Xbox 360 >> PC >>>> everything else.