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#1 After_Math
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From IGN:

On Kinect vs. the Hardcore

"Obviously we're very excited by the success of Kinect," Dennis said. "But we have no intention of abandoning the Xbox 360 audience that bought in originally. We're very aware of the key role the enthusiastic core audience played in making the Xbox 360 what it is, and we'll continue to support and develop (titles) like Halo and Gears of War." Crytek's exclusive Codename: Kingdoms was mentioned and Dennis stressed that there are a number of core-focused titles in development that have not been announced.

The article also mentions Xbox Live, Hulu, New Updates, etc.

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more or less exactly what you would expect a PR rep to say.
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#3 SapSacPrime
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You won't get any sense here, clearly MS are done with core games now and its impossible for somebody that likes shooting things to enjoy a family game.

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#4 CanYouDiglt
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You won't get any sense here, clearly MS are done with core games now and its impossible for somebody that likes shooting things to enjoy a family game.

SapSacPrime

Ya because a console can not have family and hardcore games. I swear the Microsoft haters on here do not even try to use logic anymore.

I seem to recall exclusive games like Gears or the Crytik game coming to the 360 but do not let that get in the way of your Microsoft hate.

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#5 POPEYE1716
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So i guess thy are going to keep riding the Halo train:roll:. Im done with this system

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#6 soulitane
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I swear they've said this lots of times now =_=
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Sounds like Nintendo during 06....

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kirby would be proud of this epic yarn

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#9 alextherussian
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I swear they've said this lots of times now =_=soulitane
Yeah I have a faint sense of Deja Vu as well.
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#10 walkingdream
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Thank god, i'm sick of PS3 fanboys telling me the 360 has no games when it has had a great library for the past 4+ years. I know next year looks like the PS3 year (finally) but Microsoft don't tend to Announce new exclusives 4+ years down the track :P
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#11 TheSterls
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What did you think he was going to say? DEUCES HARDCORE GAMERS HELLO CASUALS !!!!

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#12 CanYouDiglt
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I swear they've said this lots of times now =_=soulitane
Well considering it is the console with the most AAA,AA, and A games I do not see what is the problem. Yes they have said it before and according to the game library they were true to their words.
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#13 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]I swear they've said this lots of times now =_=CanYouDiglt
Well considering it is the console with the most AAA,AA, and A games I do not see what is the problem. Yes they have said it before and according to the game library they were true to their words.

I have had the console since near launch and played pretty much all of the exclusive games that interest me on the system, so I do not see what your problem is. They have said this many times and they barely announce anything for the "core gamer", sorry but I don't follow companies blindly.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="soulitane"]I swear they've said this lots of times now =_=soulitane

Well considering it is the console with the most AAA,AA, and A games I do not see what is the problem. Yes they have said it before and according to the game library they were true to their words.

I have had the console since near launch and played pretty much all of the exclusive games that interest me on the system, so I do not see what your problem is. They have said this many times and they barely announce anything for the "core gamer", sorry but I don't follow companies blindly.

I do not follow companies blindly either. I have a PS3 and a 360 but I do find the MS haters rather funny and that is putting it nicely. MS is not like Sony that will announce games several years in advance and act like the game is coming out that year after year after year. I guess in a way Sony is smart because certain people really do believe all the titles they are talking about will come out this year. Heck people believed GT5 would come out last year and the year before that and before that and all the way up until the launch of the PS3 since Sony was showing trailers of GT5 even before the PS3 was launched. What is it 2 or 3 years now we have been hearing about the Last Guardian? I prefer MS style of not keeping its fan on some leash.

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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

You won't get any sense here, clearly MS are done with core games now and its impossible for somebody that likes shooting things to enjoy a family game.

CanYouDiglt

Ya because a console can not have family and hardcore games. I swear the Microsoft haters on here do not even try to use logic anymore.

I seem to recall exclusive games like Gears or the Crytik game coming to the 360 but do not let that get in the way of your Microsoft hate.

Thank god, i'm sick of PS3 fanboys telling me the 360 has no games when it has had a great library for the past 4+ years. I know next year looks like the PS3 year (finally) but Microsoft don't tend to Announce new exclusives 4+ years down the track :P walkingdream
Remember when some CEO at the xbox360 division said that ''Core gamers will buy Kinect games for the achievements anyway...'' So I'm guessing that's what they mean with there core audience. :lol: And btw. less talk and more IP's. Even Sony has this huge list of exclusives for this year and they still about having unannounced exclusives. :o
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#16 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Well considering it is the console with the most AAA,AA, and A games I do not see what is the problem. Yes they have said it before and according to the game library they were true to their words.CanYouDiglt

I have had the console since near launch and played pretty much all of the exclusive games that interest me on the system, so I do not see what your problem is. They have said this many times and they barely announce anything for the "core gamer", sorry but I don't follow companies blindly.

I do not follow companies blindly either. I have a PS3 and a 360 but I do find the MS haters rather funny and that is putting it nicely. MS is not like Sony that will announce games several years in advance and act like the game is coming out that year after year after year. I guess in a way Sony is smart because certain people really do believe all the titles they are talking about will come out this year. Heck people believed GT5 would come out last year and the year before that and before that and all the way up until the launch of the PS3 since Sony was showing trailers of GT5 even before the PS3 was launched.

I'm not a MS hater, but they aren't giving me much reason to trust them either. I don't believe that they'll announce anything (not kinect related) that will come out this year unless it's a proper announcement of project kingdom. Does that mean I don't like my xbox? No it doesn't, I will continue to use it for multiplats but at the moment the exclusive (IMO) line up is looking rather small.
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#17 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]Ya because a console can not have family and hardcore games. I swear the Microsoft haters on here do not even try to use logic anymore.

I seem to recall exclusive games like Gears or the Crytik game coming to the 360 but do not let that get in the way of your Microsoft hate.

Locutus_Picard

Thank god, i'm sick of PS3 fanboys telling me the 360 has no games when it has had a great library for the past 4+ years. I know next year looks like the PS3 year (finally) but Microsoft don't tend to Announce new exclusives 4+ years down the track :P walkingdream
Remember when some CEO at the xbox360 division said that ''Core gamers will buy Kinect games for the achievements anyway...'' So I'm guessing that's what they mean with there core audience. :lol: And btw. less talk and more IP's. Even Sony has this huge list of exclusives for this year and they still about having unannounced exclusives. :o

Hey just because Move sells like junk do not act like Sony does not wish to have the same as what MS does with Kinect. It is funny how fast the cows forget the Wii ripoff because it is not selling well(like the PS3 or PSP). The funny part is Sony has been trying to do it longer then MS with the Eyetoy but just like the PS3 and PSP they have not had success

These are Move games

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This chould have been good news if MS announced a few new core games insteed of just talk...

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[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"] [QUOTE="walkingdream"]Thank god, i'm sick of PS3 fanboys telling me the 360 has no games when it has had a great library for the past 4+ years. I know next year looks like the PS3 year (finally) but Microsoft don't tend to Announce new exclusives 4+ years down the track :P CanYouDiglt
Remember when some CEO at the xbox360 division said that ''Core gamers will buy Kinect games for the achievements anyway...'' So I'm guessing that's what they mean with there core audience. :lol: And btw. less talk and more IP's. Even Sony has this huge list of exclusives for this year and they still about having unannounced exclusives. :o

Hey just because Move sells like junk do not act like Sony does not wish to have the same as what MS does with Kinect. It is funny how fast the cows forget the Wii ripoff because it is not selling well(like the PS3 or PSP). The funny part is Sony has been trying to do it longer then MS with the Eyetoy but just like the PS3 and PSP they have not had success


I don't know if you already know but at least Move has some core apllications, just look at RE5...albeit clunky, it works.
And I don't care about the Move...but at least Sony isn't ditching us for some brand new audience that listens justin bieber and wants to simulate talk shows on Kinect.
Even if I'm a cow...I'd sure as hell wouldn't want to be a lemming right now.

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#20 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] Remember when some CEO at the xbox360 division said that ''Core gamers will buy Kinect games for the achievements anyway...'' So I'm guessing that's what they mean with there core audience. :lol: And btw. less talk and more IP's. Even Sony has this huge list of exclusives for this year and they still about having unannounced exclusives. :oLocutus_Picard

Hey just because Move sells like junk do not act like Sony does not wish to have the same as what MS does with Kinect. It is funny how fast the cows forget the Wii ripoff because it is not selling well(like the PS3 or PSP). The funny part is Sony has been trying to do it longer then MS with the Eyetoy but just like the PS3 and PSP they have not had success


I don't know if you already know but at least Move has some core apllications, just look at RE5...albeit clunky, it works.
And I don't care about the Move...but at least Sony isn't ditching us for some brand new audience that listens justin bieber and wants to simulate talk shows on Kinect.
Even if I'm a cow...I'd sure as hell wouldn't want to be a lemming right now.

So then you want motion controls in all your hardcore games? And the fact you are bragging about it? I am not anti or pro Kinect but you want to bash Kinect and then praise Sony for putting Move into hardcore games :lol: Kinect can be cool I think to a certain point for example a hardcore game like how Forza has it so you can look at and tune your car. It also has a mini game in Forza.

I do find it funny you bash Kinect so much but then praise Sony for putting move in RE. Hypocrisy.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"] Remember when some CEO at the xbox360 division said that ''Core gamers will buy Kinect games for the achievements anyway...'' So I'm guessing that's what they mean with there core audience. :lol: And btw. less talk and more IP's. Even Sony has this huge list of exclusives for this year and they still about having unannounced exclusives. :oLocutus_Picard

Hey just because Move sells like junk do not act like Sony does not wish to have the same as what MS does with Kinect. It is funny how fast the cows forget the Wii ripoff because it is not selling well(like the PS3 or PSP). The funny part is Sony has been trying to do it longer then MS with the Eyetoy but just like the PS3 and PSP they have not had success


I don't know if you already know but at least Move has some core apllications, just look at RE5...albeit clunky, it works.
And I don't care about the Move...but at least Sony isn't ditching us for some brand new audience that listens justin bieber and wants to simulate talk shows on Kinect.
Even if I'm a cow...I'd sure as hell wouldn't want to be a lemming right now.

no. sony is to focused on trying to convince cows to shell out a fortune on a 3DTV so they can play all the new PS3 exclusives in 3D. MS maybe trying to attract the very lucrative casual audience. but if you think there going to turn there back on the fanbase that will buy games like Gears and Halo in there millions then i think your wrong.

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#22 Ravensmash
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Well there you have it, unannounced core titles upcoming and MS saying they will not abandon those gamers. Feel free to disregard it though. If MS were that intent on changing the demographics then they'd straight out say it or spin it somehow. They haven't, so just be patient.
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#23 shinrabanshou
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Well there you have it, unannounced core titles upcoming and MS saying they will not abandon those gamers. Feel free to disregard it though. If MS were that intent on changing the demographics then they'd straight out say it or spin it somehow. They haven't, so just be patient.Ravensmash
They've been talking about unnannounced titles for months now. I don't see how this is the "well there you have it" moment.

They're obviously not intent on ditching they're original demographic, they clearly want it all. As would any business. But it's pretty clear, at least imo, that the focus is pretty much all on Kinect, with the bones of Gears, Forza and Kingdoms being thrown at the original core dog. They're comfortable in the assumption that simply coasting on third party multiplatform and sprinkling some core publishing amongst the casual is apparently enough.

To put things in perspective how many of these 2010 titles weren't already announced by Jan 2010:

Halo: Reach
Alan Wake
Crackdown 2
Mass Effect 2
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction
Supreme Commander 2
Metro 2033
Fable III

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Would be nice to see some core games from Rare. Perfect Dark, Kameo, Banjo, Conker, or whatever.

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#26 waltefmoney
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Killzone 3

LBP 2

inFamous 2

Uncharted 3

Yakuza 4

This pretty much nullifies your entire point. Is not about releasing casual games, it is about having a balance and it is obvious that MS's main focus are the casual. They delayed GeoW3 for November cus they don't have anything more beside some unknown probably mediocre exclusive games releasing during the rest of the year while Sony has a bunch of Triple AAA games releasing every month and I bet everything that 2012 will be equally packed while the X360 will either have nothing or they will be announcing a new box cus they can't compete.

Gue1

Forza 4?

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So i guess thy are going to keep riding the Halo train:roll:. Im done with this system

POPEYE1716

Yep and Sony will ride the Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, resistance and Motorstorm train:roll:

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#28 Keiji993
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Why do people still think that Sony announces the most games that take the longest to come out? It's a fact that Microsoft does it more and they take longer to come out. It's been proven many times, educate yourself before you talk without knowledge.
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Ya no it took ps3 awhile to get off the ground its about time also..So you fanboys chill..The xbox has been around awhile and has been booming since day one..Just now yall are catching up..Microsoft isnt done yet..You may have a good year this year One year out of five is not bad how ever xbox still has you beat for the last 4 years..So put your egos aside yall ps3 lovers..Myself i could care less about kinect even now..Its a cheap gimmick with no good games out..We have plenty of titles out this year that im not worried about it..Crysis 2, dragon age 2, duke nuke em for ever, gears 3, mass effecr 3..Im sure there are more than i just mentioned..Sure some of these games are on the ps3 but who cares...Xbox will thrive an do well..

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[QUOTE="POPEYE1716"] Yep and Sony will ride the Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, resistance and Motorstorm train:roll:

Duckyindiana

among its MANY other franchises...

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Killzone 3

LBP 2

inFamous 2

Uncharted 3

Yakuza 4

This pretty much nullifies your entire point. Is not about releasing casual games, it is about having a balance and it is obvious that MS's main focus are the casual. They delayed GeoW3 for November cus they don't have anything more beside some unknown probably mediocre exclusive games releasing during the rest of the year while Sony has a bunch of Triple AAA games releasing every month and I bet everything that 2012 will be equally packed while the X360 will either have nothing or they will be announcing a new box cus they can't compete.

waltefmoney

Forza 4?

oh woops...ignore what i said..i read it wrong.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Forza 4?

campzor

he did say unknown..though im guessing he means cryteks exclusive. (just guessing)

He said that other than Gears, they have nothing but unknown mediocre exclusives. They have Forza. And that series is pretty well known to cows. :P

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#32 campzor
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Forza 4?

waltefmoney

he did say unknown..though im guessing he means cryteks exclusive. (just guessing)

He said that other than Gears, they have nothing but unknown mediocre exclusives. They have Forza. And that series is pretty well known to cows. :P

lol ye ye sorry i edited my post..i thought he meant cryteks exclusive which is 'known' but also 'unknown' at the same time! :P
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So does that means we will see another Halo on 360? :D
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So does that means we will see another Halo on 360? :DMagik85

I believe we will, just not this year.

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#35 CanYouDiglt
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So does that means we will see another Halo on 360? :DMagik85
The people at MS are not idiots. Halo I think is the best selling exclusive game this generation. I know CoD sells more but does it sell more on one system?
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#36 dommeus
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From IGN:

On Kinect vs. the Hardcore

"Obviously we're very excited by the success of Kinect," Dennis said. "But we have no intention of abandoning the Xbox 360 audience that bought in originally. We're very aware of the key role the enthusiastic core audience played in making the Xbox 360 what it is, and we'll continue to support and develop (titles) like Halo and Gears of War." Crytek's exclusive Codename: Kingdoms was mentioned and Dennis stressed that there are a number of core-focused titles in development that have not been announced.

The article also mentions Xbox Live, Hulu, New Updates, etc.

After_Math

Right, but we need to SEE these games now. It's all well and good saying the exist, but they might end up being ****.

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#37 campzor
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[QUOTE="Magik85"]So does that means we will see another Halo on 360? :DCanYouDiglt
The people at MS are not idiots. Halo I think is the best selling exclusive game this generation. I know CoD sells more but does it sell more on one system?

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#38 SteJo6sic6
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While i agree that kinect is cool tech but i don't see why anyone would want to play forza on it. Why not just play it with a steering wheel that way you at least get a bit of feedback through the wheel. But hey this is coming from someone who has no interest in motion control.

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#40 SUD123456
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While i agree that kinect is cool tech but i don't see why anyone would want to play forza on it. Why not just play it with a steering wheel that way you at least get a bit of feedback through the wheel. But hey this is coming from someone who has no interest in motion control.

SteJo6sic6

I agree completely. This is exactly why I think the Sony Move strategy is the worst of all of them. Do you really want to be swinging your sword around for hours on end in a core game? I think not. All of this Move support for core titles is bum fluff. It isn't just the what you do and how you do it that is different with motion controls, there is also how long you do it for. Party games, switching turns/players, groups of people...these are all suitable fits for motion controls that require you to get up.

There will be plenty of good motion control titles in there own right, but Forza, KZ3, etc are going to bite hard with motion controls or be nothing more than add-on gimmicks. Which is why I don't see how the Sony strategy works in the long term. It is going to become apparent very quickly that Move will not be particularly useful to core games.

With MS it is clearer that they are differentiating between core and Kinect, and the controller free aspect at least potentially offers future hybrid paths where Kinect is used in conjunction with a controller. Therein lies the main difference. Both are substitutes for conventional controllers; however, only one offers the possibility of being a complement, not just a substitute.

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#41 badtaker
Member since 2009 • 3806 Posts
TC i don't see anything for xbox :P
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#42 Bugatti17
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Magik85"]So does that means we will see another Halo on 360? :Dcampzor
The people at MS are not idiots. Halo I think is the best selling exclusive game this generation. I know CoD sells more but does it sell more on one system?

nintendo would like several words with u

Which game ?? Halo 3 outsold Galaxy by atleast 3 million

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#43 mayceV
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So i guess thy are going to keep riding the Halo train:roll:. Im done with this system

POPEYE1716
have fun elsewhere you obvious didn't like the systtem to begin with. I loved the 360 I have 15 games and was plainngin to buy 5 more in 2010, bought only one of them so far before it RRoD. it was about the same time I got into PC gaming and MS started supporting PC again. now I love 360 and plan t come back to it one bad year for core games doesn't equate to dropping the system. I mean wii had a horribe 08 and now its pummping great game after great game. You don't have to drop what you don't have or what you never really played.
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#44 waltefmoney
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Which game ?? Halo 3 outsold Galaxy by atleast 3 million

Bugatti17

Mario Kart Wii sold 20+ million.

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#45 Infinite_Access
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[QUOTE="POPEYE1716"]

So i guess thy are going to keep riding the Halo train:roll:. Im done with this system

Duckyindiana

Yep and Sony will ride the Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, resistance and Motorstorm train:roll:

Ratchet and Clank is dead...

The rest of those franchises started this gen. I mean we do want to finish the Resistance story right?

Halo made a prequel for the sake of $$$$

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#46 campzor
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[QUOTE="Bugatti17"]

Which game ?? Halo 3 outsold Galaxy by atleast 3 million

waltefmoney

Mario Kart Wii sold 20+ million.

this and apparently new super mario brothers wii as well has done 20+ according to vgcharts (yes i know but i doubt they are 10 million off....) and ofcourse games like wii sport / wii fit / wii play and brawl apparently 10 mill...
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#47 waltefmoney
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Ratchet and Clank is dead...

The rest of those franchises started this gen. I mean we do want to finish the Resistance story right?

Halo made a prequel for the sake of $$$$

Infinite_Access

Okay, Gears then.

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#48 Infinite_Access
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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"]

Ratchet and Clank is dead...

The rest of those franchises started this gen. I mean we do want to finish the Resistance story right?

Halo made a prequel for the sake of $$$$

waltefmoney

Okay, Gears then.

Gears is a good game no arguement from me. It hasn't been beaten to death yet.

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#49 NielsNL
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MS saying they won't forsake the core gamer really doesn't mean anything. What else were they going to say? Meanwhile, their actions seem to indicate different. All they've been doing is going where the money is. Makes sense for a business of course, in the end making money is their purpose. However, I'm sure I'm not alone in having a feeling that MS is going purely for the money, disregarding the needs of the customer base they deem of lesser profit generating potential. More so than their competitors that is.

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#50 BigBoss154
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Halo and Gears of War...

Yawn. Give me something new MS.