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#1 drknockboot2
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Does it bother you that Microsoft is charging full price for Halo 3: ODST, which is a add-on?

Microsoft is a rip off!

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#2 CAlNlAC
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Umm I'm pretty sure you don't have to have Halo 3 to play Halo 3:ODST as it is a stand alone game.

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#3 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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I don't think ODST is being charged full price...
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#4 UnnDunn
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I have no idea where this idea that Halo 3 ODST is an expansion came from. Bungie has always said it is a standalone, full game.

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#5 WilliamRLBaker
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do some research.

Not only does halo odst contain halo odst without the need to own halo 3, it will contain the multiplayer component of halo 3 meaning you can play halo 3 multiplayer without owning halo 3, as well it will contain every DLC released to date for halo 3 last i checked.

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#6 SilverChimera
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its a standalone expansion like crysis warhead. you don't need halo 3 to play it.

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#8 gamefan274
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Does it bother you that Microsoft is charging full price for Halo 3: ODST, which is a add-on? I mean to play the game you have to have Halo 3, and they are still charging full price!

Microsoft is a rip off!

drknockboot2
They charge $100 for an adapter and M$ is ripping you off with a $60 game that should be a $60 add on!? Try again, they are greedy b@stards but its all Bungie here.
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#9 -DrRobotnik-
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Its standalone, but i do agree than the full price is a little much considering its still an expansion on the Halo 3 game (same engine and multiplayer).
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#10 drknockboot2
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do some research.

Not only does halo odst contain halo odst without the need to own halo 3, it will contain the multiplayer component of halo 3 meaning you can play halo 3 multiplayer without owning halo 3, as well it will contain every DLC released to date for halo 3 last i checked.

WilliamRLBaker

I stand corrected! Still a little much for the same game with another story.

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#11 The_Game21x
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How many times does this have to be said?

Halo: ODST is more than the 3 - 5 hour expansion it once was. Now, especially since it is also shipping with the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience on a second disc and the campaign has been expanded, it is essentially a full game.

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#12 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

do some research.

Not only does halo odst contain halo odst without the need to own halo 3, it will contain the multiplayer component of halo 3 meaning you can play halo 3 multiplayer without owning halo 3, as well it will contain every DLC released to date for halo 3 last i checked.

drknockboot2

I stand corrected! Still a little much for the same game with another story.

if thats the case then every game for the most part is a rip off since rarely do we see any major upgrades within a few years of release its usually between quite a number of years or between seperate generations.
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#13 MickeyTheNinja
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Halo 3: ODST= AAA
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#14 Ross_the_B0SS
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ODST has a lot of content. The campaign seems like a lot of fun. Can't wait to play it cooperatively. Firefight looks like a LOT of fun. I'm probably most excited about that. Plus 3 new maps. I'm fine with spending $60 on it.

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#15 flazzle
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no. ripping off is when you get sold something that is not as promised or money is stolen from you.

If they charge something for it that people are willing to pay, no one is getting ripped off.

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#16 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

do some research.

Not only does halo odst contain halo odst without the need to own halo 3, it will contain the multiplayer component of halo 3 meaning you can play halo 3 multiplayer without owning halo 3, as well it will contain every DLC released to date for halo 3 last i checked.

drknockboot2

I stand corrected! Still a little much for the same game with another story.

You don't play as a Spartan this time around... It's an entirely new game, with an entirely new look...
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#17 Ross_the_B0SS
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[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

do some research.

Not only does halo odst contain halo odst without the need to own halo 3, it will contain the multiplayer component of halo 3 meaning you can play halo 3 multiplayer without owning halo 3, as well it will contain every DLC released to date for halo 3 last i checked.

-GeordiLaForge-

I stand corrected! Still a little much for the same game with another story.

You don't play as a Spartan this time around... It's an entirely new game, with an entirely new look...

Yep the gameplay will feel quite different.

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#18 xscott1018
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it's a standalone expansion. i think it should be cheaper if this is true. i don't think it will be full price.
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#19 Nerkcon
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Out of all of their laughable addons you choose a stupid expansion? :| When I think of MS being M$ I think about their $80 wi-fi adapter. But thankfully we found something better; a 80ft cable for $30! :D
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#20 gago-gago
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Noone really knew what ODST was before. Was it a DLC, an expansion pack, if you need to have Halo 3 to play it, etc.? But now we know that it is a standalone like Crysis Warhead. I believe they're also selling it with a controller, if the price is right, I might get that one too.

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#21 moose_knuckler
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I'm not very happy about it, but I heard there making special edition which saves 10 bucks (technically) and I need a new controller (Special Edition comes with game plus wireless controller for $99) :D. Has the price been confirmed or the special edition I mentioned, heard stuff about it but not sure if true?

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#22 Night-Wolf93
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Does it bother you that Microsoft is charging full price for Halo 3: ODST, which is a add-on?

Microsoft is a rip off!

drknockboot2

If it bothers u sooo much than just don't buy the game nobody's tellin u to buy it!!!

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#23 II-FBIsniper-II
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I agree it is overpriced. I highly doubt it will be over five hours long, but oh well. What are you going to do?
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#24 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

do some research.

Not only does halo odst contain halo odst without the need to own halo 3, it will contain the multiplayer component of halo 3 meaning you can play halo 3 multiplayer without owning halo 3, as well it will contain every DLC released to date for halo 3 last i checked.

drknockboot2

I stand corrected! Still a little much for the same game with another story.

kinda reminds me of GT 5: P
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#26 swimdeadfish
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really, I thought it was going to be $30-$40. I don't think its worth $60

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I agree it is overpriced. I highly doubt it will be over five hours long, but oh well. What are you going to do?II-FBIsniper-II
it is a full game now, with 1,000 gamerpoints just like every other full game. MS doesnt allow 1,000 points for expansions or DLC.

"

"First of all, while Halo 3: Recon did originate with the goal of building a 3 to 5 hour campaign experience, I can safely say that as is always the case with Bungie, the team is continuing to put more and more into it and the final product will end up being some order of magnitude more than the initial design. Game Informer also touches on the new structure to the campaign experience and how there are basically two separate components to the campaign. The initial play time targets were focused on one of those components. And lastly, there are still plenty of things we're not talking about with Recon that will further enhance and add to the experience, play time, and replayability of the final package.

Regardless of how long it ultimately takes you to make it through the Halo 3: ODST campaign, Game Informer was told that the disc will offer 1,000 new achievement points and that all of them are tied to the campaign."

LINK

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#28 mcgreddy
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In b4 GT5 prologue costs 40$

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#29 themyth01
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Does it bother you that Microsoft is charging full price for Halo 3: ODST, which is a add-on?

Microsoft is a rip off!

drknockboot2
You know what it is without playing it heh. Uncharted was a 5 hour long game charged full-priced with no online, do you think people who bought that game felt ripped off?
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#30 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

Does it bother you that Microsoft is charging full price for Halo 3: ODST, which is a add-on?

Microsoft is a rip off!

and where did u get the clue that Halo 3 ODST is a add-on???
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#31 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]I agree it is overpriced. I highly doubt it will be over five hours long, but oh well. What are you going to do?navyguy21

it is a full game now, with 1,000 gamerpoints just like every other full game. MS doesnt allow 1,000 points for expansions or DLC.

"

"First of all, while Halo 3: Recon did originate with the goal of building a 3 to 5 hour campaign experience, I can safely say that as is always the case with Bungie, the team is continuing to put more and more into it and the final product will end up being some order of magnitude more than the initial design. Game Informer also touches on the new structure to the campaign experience and how there are basically two separate components to the campaign. The initial play time targets were focused on one of those components. And lastly, there are still plenty of things we're not talking about with Recon that will further enhance and add to the experience, play time, and replayability of the final package.

Regardless of how long it ultimately takes you to make it through the Halo 3: ODST campaign, Game Informer was told that the disc will offer 1,000 new achievement points and that all of them are tied to the campaign."

LINK

Regardless, if Halo 3 was single player only, I would feel ripped off paying $60 for it. I highly doubt Halo 3 ODST's campaign will offer more content than Halo 3. That said, I'll probably buy it since it comes with the new maps and a beta invite. You win this round Microsoft.
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#32 nmaharg
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No but sony is with its expansion. Killzone 2 with its 4 hour single player and multiplayer that shipped with all of 8 maps.
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#33 heretrix
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Oh no! They decided to make a full game instead of a crappy DLC pack. Bad Microsoft!

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#34 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]I agree it is overpriced. I highly doubt it will be over five hours long, but oh well. What are you going to do?II-FBIsniper-II

it is a full game now, with 1,000 gamerpoints just like every other full game. MS doesnt allow 1,000 points for expansions or DLC.

"

"First of all, while Halo 3: Recon did originate with the goal of building a 3 to 5 hour campaign experience, I can safely say that as is always the case with Bungie, the team is continuing to put more and more into it and the final product will end up being some order of magnitude more than the initial design. Game Informer also touches on the new structure to the campaign experience and how there are basically two separate components to the campaign. The initial play time targets were focused on one of those components. And lastly, there are still plenty of things we're not talking about with Recon that will further enhance and add to the experience, play time, and replayability of the final package.

Regardless of how long it ultimately takes you to make it through the Halo 3: ODST campaign, Game Informer was told that the disc will offer 1,000 new achievement points and that all of them are tied to the campaign."

LINK

Regardless, if Halo 3 was single player only, I would feel ripped off paying $60 for it. I highly doubt Halo 3 ODST's campaign will offer more content than Halo 3. That said, I'll probably buy it since it comes with the new maps and a beta invite. You win this round Microsoft.

If they make New Mombasa a fun city to explore (loads of encounters, secrets, lore etc) then the game could easily top that 5 hour mark.
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#35 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="drknockboot2"]

Does it bother you that Microsoft is charging full price for Halo 3: ODST, which is a add-on?

Microsoft is a rip off!

no but it bothers me that people point out faults with one games "expansion" when they dont even consider their home systems flaws. (gt5 prolouge) thread = phail.
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#36 irish4eva
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

How many times does this have to be said?

Halo: ODST is more than the 3 - 5 hour expansion it once was. Now, especially since it is also shipping with the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience on a second disc and the campaign has been expanded, it is essentially a full game.

So its essentially halo 3,which people will be able to pick up for 15 euro?
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#37 heretrix
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

How many times does this have to be said?

Halo: ODST is more than the 3 - 5 hour expansion it once was. Now, especially since it is also shipping with the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience on a second disc and the campaign has been expanded, it is essentially a full game.

irish4eva

So its essentially halo 3,which people will be able to pick up for 15 euro?

NO it isn't Halo 3 it's a completely different game with different characters. The gameplay is very different.

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#38 needagoodname
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The only thing the same is the multi. Since it comes with ALL released DLC, that's not a bad deal.

Hell, since quotes from devs say it's longer, let's say it's 5-6 hours long, being practical.

The single-player is DIFFERENT. It's more stealth-based. There's different weapons, it's open-world, and there are new features that complement a bit more stealth.

Is it the best game value ever? No. But I can think of a hell of a lot of games that offer less value for $60.

Besides, it's Halo. AAA score and 4 million copies sold, guarenteed. The disc could be a 10 minute video of Master Chief in the shower and it would still sell 3 million copies. And that's coming from a Halo fan.

And TC, say hi to your $40 Gran Turismo 5 demo for me.

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#39 Menalque2
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ODST is a stand-alone 5 hour long expansion pack for Halo 3, just as Halo 3 is a stand alone 5 hour long expansion pack for Halo 2.

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#40 -DrRobotnik-
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ODST is a stand-alone 5 hour long expansion pack for Halo 3, just as Halo 3 is a stand alone 5 hour long expansion pack for Halo 2.

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Extremely original and funny...
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Of course, that's their specialty. :lol:

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#42 Menalque2
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[QUOTE="Menalque2"]

ODST is a stand-alone 5 hour long expansion pack for Halo 3, just as Halo 3 is a stand alone 5 hour long expansion pack for Halo 2.

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Extremely original and funny...

Well I had to think of some way of sticking up for Bungie's 2009 opus.
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#43 RM84x
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I'm not buying this game.. but I would feel ripped off if I paid $60 for a freakin add on.
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#44 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I'm not buying this game.. but I would feel ripped off if I paid $60 for a freakin add on.RM84x
That "a freakin add on" comes with more content than a lot of full-priced games.
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#45 SragentThom
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no. ripping off is when you get sold something that is not as promised or money is stolen from you.

If they charge something for it that people are willing to pay, no one is getting ripped off.

flazzle

ps2 anyone?

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#46 SpruceCaboose
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Does it upset me that MS is charging full price for a full game? No. Did it upset PS3 owners when Sony was charging $40 for a part of a game that is coming out "later", or does it bother Wii owners when companies charge full price for minigame collections? Why should it? You buy what you feel is worth it. With so many 10 hour games with no multiplayer selling for $60, why would I care that I get a full game from AAA quality developers?