Microsoft thinks Sony is a dirty liar, questions PSN numbers

Okay so this article/writer is a bit snarky to say the least but I found it funny anyway and worthy of some SW fun.:P

Thoughts ?

The Story.

Recently, Sony proudly boasted that the PlayStation Network had surpassed 20 million members, putting its numbers ahead of Xbox Live by a cool 3 million. Well, it's been a while since we had the two companies tugging each others' hair and giving out dead legs in the schoolyard, so naturally a Microsoft spokesman came out to question the numbers and accuse Sony of filthy, rotten lies.

"When we talk about our numbers we feel they're active users who are actively engaged in all the forms of entertainment we offer on Xbox 360," explains MS UK's Stephen McGill. "I think if you look at the comments made on the forums, or the comments made by analysts at Screen Digest then there's questions over, well what does Sony's numbers really mean? Are they duplicates? I think there's a lot of questions there.

"All I'm really worried about is, I know I'm the largest online video on demand service in the UK, we are worldwide, we've got a great online service the others can't come close to. They're not right now. When you think of our heritage as a company Microsoft has proven we are probably the only company in the world that can offer great online experiences for millions and millions and millions of people. And that's what we do every day with Xbox LIVE.

"Sony do what Sony want to do and if they think that's right for their business to say those kind of numbers then they can do and will do whatever they want to do. Do I believe them? No."

In other news, Microsoft knows Sony's dad, and is going to tell him that the publisher has been scrumping apples. We have extended the child metaphor in a biting satire of the infantile behavior of multimillion dollar companies, a babyishness which we do, admittedly, perpetuate by publicizing it.

Well that's expected... They're just countering Sony's latest PR spin. There's probably little truth in neither Sony's nor Microsofts statement

Well that's expected... They're just countering Sony's latest PR spin. There's probably little truth in neither Sony's nor Microsofts statement

lundy86_4

Okay so this article/writer is a bit snarky to say the least but I found it funny anyway and worthy of some SW fun.:P

Thoughts ?

The Story.

Recently, Sony proudly boasted that the PlayStation Network had surpassed 20 million members, putting its numbers ahead of Xbox Live by a cool 3 million. Well, it's been a while since we had the two companies tugging each others' hair and giving out dead legs in the schoolyard, so naturally a Microsoft spokesman came out to question the numbers and accuse Sony of filthy, rotten lies. (and MS doesnt lie?)

"When we talk about our numbers we feel they're active users who are actively engaged in all the forms of entertainment (if your an Amercian) we offer on Xbox 360," explains MS UK's Stephen McGill. "I think if you look at the comments made on the forums, or the comments made by analysts at Screen Digest then there's questions over, well what does Sony's numbers really mean? Are they duplicates? I think there's a lot of questions there.

"All I'm really worried about is, I know I'm the largest online video on demand service in the UK,(What?) we are worldwide, we've got a great online service the others can't come close to. They're not right now. When you think of our heritage as a company Microsoft has proven we are probably the only company in the world that can offer great online experiences for millions and millions and millions of people. And that's what we do every day with Xbox LIVE.

"Sony do what Sony want to do and if they think that's right for their business to say those kind of numbers then they can do and will do whatever they want to do. Do I believe them? No."

In other news, Microsoft knows Sony's dad, and is going to tell him that the publisher has been scrumping apples. We have extended the child metaphor in a biting satire of the infantile behavior of multimillion dollar companies, a babyishness which we do, admittedly, perpetuate by publicizing it.

SecretPolice

MS touts its number as 17 million yet just over half are gold members.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Well that's expected... They're just countering Sony's latest PR spin. There's probably little truth in neither Sony's nor Microsofts statement

Jandurin

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Well that's expected... They're just countering Sony's latest PR spin. There's probably little truth in neither Sony's nor Microsofts statement

Jandurin

I'm not saying they're both false, i'm just saying that there's truth, and then there is PR truth.

I myself have 4 PSN accounts, 1 NA, 1 EU, 1 JPN and my main :P

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Well that's expected... They're just countering Sony's latest PR spin. There's probably little truth in neither Sony's nor Microsofts statement

I'm not saying they're both false, i'm just saying that there's truth, and then there is PR truth.

What's hard in believing that a free online service has more accounts than a paid one???? mmirza23

[QUOTE="mmirza23"]What's hard in believing that a free online service has more accounts than a paid one???? TX360

[QUOTE="mmirza23"]What's hard in believing that a free online service has more accounts than a paid one???? TX360

In reality, PSN has 20 mill member, Live has 17 mill.

[QUOTE="TX360"][QUOTE="mmirza23"]What's hard in believing that a free online service has more accounts than a paid one???? Javy03

^ Yes. Truthfully we just don't know, as the numbers are internal, and only released every so often. Saying 360 has more members online makes little sense, as all accounts are online be it Live Gold or PSN.

well, PSN is for both PS3 and PSP so technically you have two consoles accessing the service. I know lemmings act like that is some sort of rebuttal to the number, but I don't think it matters at all. It just means Sony was smart to have one service for both PSP and PS3. And I'm pretty sure that you can access XBL through PC as well as 360 so their numbers may be more than just 360 members as well.

Second, PSN is completely free and you have to sign up for an account if you ever want anything off the store like demos, trailers, add-ons, etc. Free sign up plus free demos, downloads,trailers, sometimes add-ons, friends, trophy lists, etc? Seems only reasonable that a high percentage of users would create accounts. There is absolutely no reason for any PS3/PSP user NOT to. There is nothing to lost and everything to gain.

If MS only counts the gold members that is. killerfist

PS2 = 140M+

PSP = 45M+

PS3 = 21M+

Why is it so hard for them to believe there is over 20M PSN accounts? :|

Sony doesn't give specifics as to how those numbers spread out between the systems and if some of those accounts are duplicated on single consoles.

On the other hand, MS hasn't provided those stats either.

Personally, I have 4+ accounts on both systems.

[QUOTE="killerfist"]If MS only counts the gold members that is. carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="killerfist"]If MS only counts the gold members that is. carljohnson3456

They don't?

Hmm, then it's hard to say how many active players there are. I have 3 accounts on my 360 (one gold, two silver), and 3 on my Ps3.

*WTF? where's ellen page?:o

I'm sure Sony are exaggerating the figures, I mean, I have 3 accounts. But I'm glad we can always rely on those truth-telling saints that are Microsoft though, *COUGH 3-5% failure rate COUGH*. :P

are you who I think you are? :otOtalPWNaAe

lol Yes I change avatars... :(

[QUOTE="killerfist"]If MS only counts the gold members that is. carljohnson3456

They don't?

Hmm, then it's hard to say how many active players there are. I have 3 accounts on my 360 (one gold, two silver), and 3 on my Ps3.

*WTF? where's ellen page?:o

[QUOTE="TX360"][QUOTE="mmirza23"]What's hard in believing that a free online service has more accounts than a paid one???? CubanBlunt

In reality, PSN has 20 mill member, Live has 17 mill.

I have 5 PSN accounts, and 1 Live one.

The Free service will have more Accounts, members not so much.

M$ is full of cash whores

Well, in either event, MS is making more money from XBox Live than the PS3 is with the PSN so that's what matters at the end of the day... carljohnson3456

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*nevermind:P

People use PSN to download games and various other things so it's not really like microsoft should feel the need to lie about this. They're being silly.

[QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I dont think they do.carljohnson3456

They don't?

Hmm, then it's hard to say how many active players there are. I have 3 accounts on my 360 (one gold, two silver), and 3 on my Ps3.

*WTF? where's ellen page?:o

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Well, in either event, MS is making more money from XBox Live than the PS3 is with the PSN so that's what matters at the end of the day... killerfist

track mecarljohnson3456

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like the avatar hate the sig also your set to private:cry:

tOtalPWNaAe

What do you have to hide? :PIronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"]What do you have to hide? :Pcarljohnson3456

[QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"] like the avatar hate the sig also your set to private:cry:

carljohnson3456

M$ lost all their credibility, like hell anyone would listen to what they say, especially being part a PR war.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Okay so this article/writer is a bit snarky to say the least but I found it funny anyway and worthy of some SW fun.:P

Thoughts ?

The Story.

Recently, Sony proudly boasted that the PlayStation Network had surpassed 20 million members, putting its numbers ahead of Xbox Live by a cool 3 million. Well, it's been a while since we had the two companies tugging each others' hair and giving out dead legs in the schoolyard, so naturally a Microsoft spokesman came out to question the numbers and accuse Sony of filthy, rotten lies. (and MS doesnt lie?)

"When we talk about our numbers we feel they're active users who are actively engaged in all the forms of entertainment (if your an Amercian) we offer on Xbox 360," explains MS UK's Stephen McGill. "I think if you look at the comments made on the forums, or the comments made by analysts at Screen Digest then there's questions over, well what does Sony's numbers really mean? Are they duplicates? I think there's a lot of questions there.

"All I'm really worried about is, I know I'm the largest online video on demand service in the UK,(What?) we are worldwide, we've got a great online service the others can't come close to. They're not right now. When you think of our heritage as a company Microsoft has proven we are probably the only company in the world that can offer great online experiences for millions and millions and millions of people. And that's what we do every day with Xbox LIVE.

"Sony do what Sony want to do and if they think that's right for their business to say those kind of numbers then they can do and will do whatever they want to do. Do I believe them? No."

In other news, Microsoft knows Sony's dad, and is going to tell him that the publisher has been scrumping apples. We have extended the child metaphor in a biting satire of the infantile behavior of multimillion dollar companies, a babyishness which we do, admittedly, perpetuate by publicizing it.

MS touts its number as 17 million yet just over half are gold members.

No, this is incorrect and doesn't even make sense. If there are 28 million Xbox 360s sold, then how would there only be 8 million Gold members? They issued a press release in January that stated they have 17 million Gold members plus, logically speaking, this number makes a lot more sense than your estimate.Lance_Kalzas

Well MS is dirty rotten to release a faulty console knowingly out to the public. Sony is supplying a free online service that allows for as many free accounts as wanted on each system. So those PSN account numbers aren't a lie.

Is it just me or does MS seem a little more "moody" than usual?

My question is why does MS even care? :?II_Seraphim_II