Microsoft thinks Sony is their main competitor, they're wrong

Bill Gates at one point mentioned that he thought Nintendo was their main competitor, but they have done little to battle Nintendo. By RAISING the price of the Xbox 360 to $480, they're basically trying to attack Sony. May of 2002, the PS2 had its first price drop, May of 2007 the Xbox 360 will have a price RISE. They're trying to attack Sony but what they don't understand is that Sony (Computer Entertainment) has ommited suicide, and they are no longer a threat.

Nintendo has been gobbling up market share based on a gimmick which is good for about 1 or maybe 2 genres, and mainly because of its cheap price. If Microsoft were smart, they would have lowered the price April 29 instead of rising it. Microsoft needs to start releasing games for non-gamers (like WarioWare, Brain Age, The Sims, etc. etc.) with easier controls if it wants to win this generation because Nintendo is catching up fast.

the wii has nothing to do with x360 or ps3.

the wii can sell 10 billion units and still lose the next-gen war.

ms could be in some serious trouble if sony drops the ps3's price to $500lazzordude

i'm pretty sure they will

but no one is in trouble...  if sony does it

the wii has nothing to do with x360 or ps3.

the wii can sell 10 billion units and still lose the next-gen war.

GermanShepard06

Sales matter alot, this is why the PS2 was such a huge hit. PS1's brand name carried over the PS2. The Wii is becoming a huge brand name (possibly like iPod?).

[QUOTE="lazzordude"]ms could be in some serious trouble if sony drops the ps3's price to $500Ngon

i'm pretty sure they will

but no one is in trouble... if sony does it

Bill Gates at one point mentioned that he thought Nintendo was their main competitor, but they have done little to battle Nintendo. By RAISING the price of the Xbox 360 to $480, they're basically trying to attack Sony. May of 2002, the PS2 had its first price drop, May of 2007 the Xbox 360 will have a price RISE. They're trying to attack Sony but what they don't understand is that Sony (Computer Entertainment) has ommited suicide, and they are no longer a threat.

Nintendo has been gobbling up market share based on a gimmick which is good for about 1 or maybe 2 genres, and mainly because of its cheap price. If Microsoft were smart, they would have lowered the price April 29 instead of rising it. Microsoft needs to start releasing games for non-gamers (like WarioWare, Brain Age, The Sims, etc. etc.) with easier controls if it wants to win this generation because Nintendo is catching up fast.

AHUGECAT

Funny how you've claimed the Wii isn't current-gen, yet you say it's in direct competition.

Learn logic before you post.

[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the wii has nothing to do with x360 or ps3.

the wii can sell 10 billion units and still lose the next-gen war.

AHUGECAT

Sales matter alot, this is why the PS2 was such a huge hit. PS1's brand name carried over the PS2. The Wii is becoming a huge brand name (possibly like iPod?).

Case in point, iPod is NOT the best MP3 player out there, but it is the slickest looking and people trust the name. Saying that the iPod will fail makes as much sense as saying that Nintendo will fail.

iPod is to Mp3 market as the Wii is to gaming market? We will have to see, but the comparison is very strong.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the wii has nothing to do with x360 or ps3.

the wii can sell 10 billion units and still lose the next-gen war.

Maelkav

Sales matter alot, this is why the PS2 was such a huge hit. PS1's brand name carried over the PS2. The Wii is becoming a huge brand name (possibly like iPod?).

Case in point, iPod is NOT the best MP3 player out there, but it is the slickest looking and people trust the name. Saying that the iPod will fail makes as much sense as saying that Nintendo will fail.

iPod is to Mp3 market as the Wii is to gaming market? We will have to see, but the comparison is very strong.

What's better than the iPod? iPod is easy to use, looks nice, pretty good battery life, video, best player (iTunes), etc. etc. But yeah brand name matters ALOT. This is why the PSP and PS3 haven't tanked to oblivion (yet).

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Bill Gates at one point mentioned that he thought Nintendo was their main competitor, but they have done little to battle Nintendo. By RAISING the price of the Xbox 360 to $480, they're basically trying to attack Sony. May of 2002, the PS2 had its first price drop, May of 2007 the Xbox 360 will have a price RISE. They're trying to attack Sony but what they don't understand is that Sony (Computer Entertainment) has ommited suicide, and they are no longer a threat.

Nintendo has been gobbling up market share based on a gimmick which is good for about 1 or maybe 2 genres, and mainly because of its cheap price. If Microsoft were smart, they would have lowered the price April 29 instead of rising it. Microsoft needs to start releasing games for non-gamers (like WarioWare, Brain Age, The Sims, etc. etc.) with easier controls if it wants to win this generation because Nintendo is catching up fast.

IronMaidenLives

Funny how you've claimed the Wii isn't current-gen, yet you say it's in direct competition.

Learn logic before you post.

It is NOT a current-gen console. The PS2 is also competing with the 360 (and winning).

The Wii isn't gobbling up market share.  It's creating a larger market, so your assumption that the market has stayed static and Nintendo is "stealing" available market share is fallacious.

Look at the types of games that both consoles are releasing.  They are not what I would call in "direct competition". 

[QUOTE="Maelkav"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

the wii has nothing to do with x360 or ps3.

the wii can sell 10 billion units and still lose the next-gen war.

AHUGECAT

Sales matter alot, this is why the PS2 was such a huge hit. PS1's brand name carried over the PS2. The Wii is becoming a huge brand name (possibly like iPod?).

Case in point, iPod is NOT the best MP3 player out there, but it is the slickest looking and people trust the name. Saying that the iPod will fail makes as much sense as saying that Nintendo will fail.

iPod is to Mp3 market as the Wii is to gaming market? We will have to see, but the comparison is very strong.

What's better than the iPod? iPod is easy to use, looks nice, pretty good battery life, video, best player (iTunes), etc. etc. But yeah brand name matters ALOT. This is why the PSP and PS3 haven't tanked to oblivion (yet).

I love and use iPod. But other out there (Zune, iRiver) have a lot more functionality and capacity.

The Wii isn't gobbling up market share.  It's creating a larger market, so your assumption that the market has stayed static and Nintendo is "stealing" available market share is fallacious.

Look at the types of games that both consoles are releasing.  They are not what I would call in "direct competition". 

karicha9

As I said, Microsoft needs to get to that "non-gamer" base Nintendo is targeting, if it truly wants to win the console wars. It needs more games like Guitar Hero, DDR, The Sims, WarioWare, Brain Age, Nintendogs, and more media features to attract a non-gamer base.

If Sony drops the 20GB PS3 to $400, then MS will not be able to survive without dropping their price. There would be no excuse for offering a DVD-based console for the same price as a Blu-Ray one with comparable features.Timstuff

Once GTA4 and Halo 3 hit the Xbox 360, Wii won't even be on the radar. Two of the top IP's in NA, the largest gaming market, will be on the Xbox 360 this holiday, let's see what happens.Kayrod29

I don't know if this true. You can say that Halo sold a bunch of XBOXes, but how many more XBOXes "sold" when Halo 2 came out? Show me some stats. My hunch is that 80% or more of the people out there who want Halo 3 have already bought a 360. (just like a bunch of people bought a PS3 in anticipation for future games).

A game only "sells" systems in huge quantities when it is near the launch or if the system is relatively inexpensive.

[QUOTE="karicha9"]

The Wii isn't gobbling up market share. It's creating a larger market, so your assumption that the market has stayed static and Nintendo is "stealing" available market share is fallacious.

Look at the types of games that both consoles are releasing. They are not what I would call in "direct competition".

AHUGECAT

As I said, Microsoft needs to get to that "non-gamer" base Nintendo is targeting, if it truly wants to win the console wars. It needs more games like Guitar Hero, DDR, The Sims, WarioWare, Brain Age, Nintendogs, and more media features to attract a non-gamer base.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="karicha9"]

The Wii isn't gobbling up market share. It's creating a larger market, so your assumption that the market has stayed static and Nintendo is "stealing" available market share is fallacious.

Look at the types of games that both consoles are releasing. They are not what I would call in "direct competition".

karicha9

As I said, Microsoft needs to get to that "non-gamer" base Nintendo is targeting, if it truly wants to win the console wars. It needs more games like Guitar Hero, DDR, The Sims, WarioWare, Brain Age, Nintendogs, and more media features to attract a non-gamer base.

In my OP I criticized Microsoft would RAISING the price of the 360 when they should be lowering it. Would they lose more money? Yes, but they need to gather up market share against Nintendo ASAP or Nintendo will win.

In my OP I criticized Microsoft would RAISING the price of the 360 when they should be lowering it. Would they lose more money? Yes, but they need to gather up market share against Nintendo ASAP or Nintendo will win.

AHUGECAT

the 20gb has been discontinued, and now with that gone, and with Sony dropping the price of the PSP as well, I believe the PS3 price drop is next.E_x_i_l_e

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]If Sony drops the 20GB PS3 to $400, then MS will not be able to survive without dropping their price. There would be no excuse for offering a DVD-based console for the same price as a Blu-Ray one with comparable features.karicha9

[QUOTE="E_x_i_l_e"]the 20gb has been discontinued, and now with that gone, and with Sony dropping the price of the PSP as well, I believe the PS3 price drop is next.axt113

True, but with everyone bashing the PS3 due to the high price, to lower the price to which it can compare with the elite, people will pay the extra money due to all the extra features.

Bill Gates at one point mentioned that he thought Nintendo was their main competitor, but they have done little to battle Nintendo. By RAISING the price of the Xbox 360 to $480, they're basically trying to attack Sony. May of 2002, the PS2 had its first price drop, May of 2007 the Xbox 360 will have a price RISE. They're trying to attack Sony but what they don't understand is that Sony (Computer Entertainment) has ommited suicide, and they are no longer a threat.

Nintendo has been gobbling up market share based on a gimmick which is good for about 1 or maybe 2 genres, and mainly because of its cheap price. If Microsoft were smart, they would have lowered the price April 29 instead of rising it. Microsoft needs to start releasing games for non-gamers (like WarioWare, Brain Age, The Sims, etc. etc.) with easier controls if it wants to win this generation because Nintendo is catching up fast.

AHUGECAT

Bill Gates at one point mentioned that he thought Nintendo was their main competitor, but they have done little to battle Nintendo. By RAISING the price of the Xbox 360 to $480, they're basically trying to attack Sony. May of 2002, the PS2 had its first price drop, May of 2007 the Xbox 360 will have a price RISE. They're trying to attack Sony but what they don't understand is that Sony (Computer Entertainment) has ommited suicide, and they are no longer a threat.

Nintendo has been gobbling up market share based on a gimmick which is good for about 1 or maybe 2 genres, and mainly because of its cheap price. If Microsoft were smart, they would have lowered the price April 29 instead of rising it. Microsoft needs to start releasing games for non-gamers (like WarioWare, Brain Age, The Sims, etc. etc.) with easier controls if it wants to win this generation because Nintendo is catching up fast.

AHUGECAT

Bill Gates at one point mentioned that he thought Nintendo was their main competitor, but they have done little to battle Nintendo. By RAISING the price of the Xbox 360 to $480, they're basically trying to attack Sony. May of 2002, the PS2 had its first price drop, May of 2007 the Xbox 360 will have a price RISE. They're trying to attack Sony but what they don't understand is that Sony (Computer Entertainment) has ommited suicide, and they are no longer a threat.

Nintendo has been gobbling up market share based on a gimmick which is good for about 1 or maybe 2 genres, and mainly because of its cheap price. If Microsoft were smart, they would have lowered the price April 29 instead of rising it. Microsoft needs to start releasing games for non-gamers (like WarioWare, Brain Age, The Sims, etc. etc.) with easier controls if it wants to win this generation because Nintendo is catching up fast.

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]If Sony drops the 20GB PS3 to $400, then MS will not be able to survive without dropping their price. There would be no excuse for offering a DVD-based console for the same price as a Blu-Ray one with comparable features.Timstuff