Microsoft to spend 'tens of millions' promoting 360

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#1 speedsix
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..in the run-up to Christmas.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/31825/Xbox-spending-tens-of-millions-on-Xmas

As I was driving into the big local shopping complex this morning there was a big sign right on the entrance to the car park, before you even got in, saying simply Xbox 360 £129.99. Me thinks there might be more than a few units leaving shelves this Xmas.

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#2 0bscurity
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Microsoft throwing around millions for advertising? No way, how can this be true?

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#3 FFXIII360
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This is great news
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#4 HarlockJC
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In other news because Nintendo is not able to keep up with the demand for the Wii. They have sifted most of their Wii advertising over to the DS.

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#5 gamefreakomega
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Yeah, most companies usually ramp up the advertising around the holiday season.
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#6 0rin
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Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
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#7 Franko_3
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M$ give 10 000 xbox 360 with some games for the orphans around the world... Now that would have been some well spent publicity money. Instead you will see geow 2 publicity every 5 min on fox

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#8 woobabooba
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How come microsoft isnt putting 10s of millions into developing some first party exclusives?
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#9 Locke562
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How come microsoft isnt putting 10s of millions into developing some first party exclusives? woobabooba
Because Advertising can sell anything. Just look at Gears of War.
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Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

I live in Europe and im not a big fan of American Capitalism...But whats the bad thing on MS advertising its system? Its part of the business and thats nice for us as gamers. More systems sold, more companies making games for it, etc

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Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

Yeah. according to this, Sony likes to gloat about spending big wads of cash as well.

But of course, Microsoft is the only one that gets ragged on for it. That's certainly fair.

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[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
The_Game21x

Yeah. according to this, Sony likes to gloat about spending big wads of cash as well.

But of course, Microsoft is the only one that gets ragged on for it. That's certainly fair.

Let's all praise Nintendo for hardly advertising any of it's hardcore games and spending much on it's casual Wii games now! :D No really... lets. :| This is my serious face here.

FYI for anyone who doesn't know me... it's sarcasm. ;)

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Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

um that quote is from the UK headquarters, not america....

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M$ give 10 000 xbox 360 with some games for the orphans around the world... Now that would have been some well spent publicity money. Instead you will see geow 2 publicity every 5 min on fox

Franko_3

And LBP....

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[QUOTE="woobabooba"]How come microsoft isnt putting 10s of millions into developing some first party exclusives? Locke562
Because Advertising can sell anything. Just look at Gears of War.

Totally i mean:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/bests/2006.shtml

Darn look how bad it is. All that advertising clearly bought it high scores.

Or hey this:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/bests/2006.shtml

Darn look, 10 perfects. All bribed no doubt. Anything below that is purely cause of adveritsing and..yeah you know what, I can't even make this up anymore i just feel like a Tool for it, I'll leave it to you.

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#16 ff7isnumbaone
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This is great newsFFXIII360
damn ur sig is ulgy your avatar is funny. lol
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[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
The_Game21x

Yeah. according to this, Sony likes to gloat about spending big wads of cash as well.

But of course, Microsoft is the only one that gets ragged on for it. That's certainly fair.



Just to clear this up, Where in that link does Sony say "We spent $30 million on these kiosks!"? Pretty sure Jack just said they had a bunch of kiosks out there for people to play, rather than gloating about how much they spent.

Microsoft is outright saying "We are spending THIS MUCH money so you will buy our product!"

Hell, I'm not saying Sony or Nintendo are innocent, I'm sure they've tossed out sales figures as well, but MS does this far more openly, and to much greater fanfaire than is needed. They just seem excessive when it comes to showing how "awesome and rich" they are. Sony has been arrogant in the past, absolutely, But it seems lately Microsoft is trying hard for THAT crown as well.

But go ahead and victimise poor Microsoft, the little company that could. Afterall, what did they ever do to us?
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Great move by microsoft
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#19 Mongo-Boss
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If they give me a free 360 and 10 free games of my choice I'll promote them :D

Sadly I can't afford a 360 this holiday season, to many games to buy for the PS3

Nothing bad with advertisement, this is business

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

Yeah. according to this, Sony likes to gloat about spending big wads of cash as well.

But of course, Microsoft is the only one that gets ragged on for it. That's certainly fair.



Just to clear this up, Where in that link does Sony say "We spent $30 million on these kiosks!"? Pretty sure Jack just said they had a bunch of kiosks out there for people to play, rather than gloating about how much they spent.

Microsoft is outright saying "We are spending THIS MUCH money so you will buy our product!"

Hell, I'm not saying Sony or Nintendo are innocent, I'm sure they've tossed out sales figures as well, but MS does this far more openly, and to much greater fanfaire than is needed. They just seem excessive when it comes to showing how "awesome and rich" they are. Sony has been arrogant in the past, absolutely, But it seems lately Microsoft is trying hard for THAT crown as well.

But go ahead and victimise poor Microsoft, the little company that could. Afterall, what did they ever do to us?

Really? MS said such a thing? Implied it even? Please elaborate as to where in that link?

MS is doing business my friend. Nowhere are they saying they are SPENDING millions so you WILL BUY the product. They are SPENDING millions to PROMOTE their product in HOPES that you will BUY it. See... that's very different than "WILL BUY" right? Yes, it is. Thank you.

Now every company is guilty of throwing around sales figures to make themselves look like they are doing good. Whether it's MS with it's high 3rd party software sales, Sony using the PS3 as a multi media device and spinning the PS3's sales in "We beat the 360 in X months and have won the format wars thanks to PS3" or Nintendo and "Wii sells, we are rich bastards! Low cost dev games with full price pay is win!" (yes I realize these are no actual sayings but you get the gist ;) )

How is MS any different? How are they any worse or not so worse? Frankly MS is doing their business, and I see nothing snoddy about them. Whether it's using their "awesome and rich" money to secure third party exclusives, or to gain time exclusives or content, or if it's to use to promote heavily on products and make the consumer aware, what is it that they are not doing that's "for the good of their company" again?

No one is a victim here, I don't get why company X is somehow making YOUR life hard though, (not yours exactly) but the way people bash MS or someone for doing business and being "disgusted" by it in some form even if it has no actual relevance to their life, is just baffling... :|

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#21 coolnessmancool
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

Yeah. according to this, Sony likes to gloat about spending big wads of cash as well.

But of course, Microsoft is the only one that gets ragged on for it. That's certainly fair.



Just to clear this up, Where in that link does Sony say "We spent $30 million on these kiosks!"? Pretty sure Jack just said they had a bunch of kiosks out there for people to play, rather than gloating about how much they spent.

Microsoft is outright saying "We are spending THIS MUCH money so you will buy our product!"

Hell, I'm not saying Sony or Nintendo are innocent, I'm sure they've tossed out sales figures as well, but MS does this far more openly, and to much greater fanfaire than is needed. They just seem excessive when it comes to showing how "awesome and rich" they are. Sony has been arrogant in the past, absolutely, But it seems lately Microsoft is trying hard for THAT crown as well.

But go ahead and victimise poor Microsoft, the little company that could. Afterall, what did they ever do to us?

yeah because advertising your product is bad i know if i made something i wouldnt advertise it at all because i wouldnt want people to buy it i think your bashing M$ because its an american company
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#22 APOLLOCJD
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

Yeah. according to this, Sony likes to gloat about spending big wads of cash as well.

But of course, Microsoft is the only one that gets ragged on for it. That's certainly fair.



Just to clear this up, Where in that link does Sony say "We spent $30 million on these kiosks!"? Pretty sure Jack just said they had a bunch of kiosks out there for people to play, rather than gloating about how much they spent.

Microsoft is outright saying "We are spending THIS MUCH money so you will buy our product!"

Hell, I'm not saying Sony or Nintendo are innocent, I'm sure they've tossed out sales figures as well, but MS does this far more openly, and to much greater fanfaire than is needed. They just seem excessive when it comes to showing how "awesome and rich" they are. Sony has been arrogant in the past, absolutely, But it seems lately Microsoft is trying hard for THAT crown as well.

But go ahead and victimise poor Microsoft, the little company that could. Afterall, what did they ever do to us?

They said they are spending 20 million to MARKET their product, not advertise. Now I know most people on SW probably don't know the difference, but marketing has to do with product placement, product ordering, training, product quality, product serive and yes advertising. In reality 20 million is not that big of a number for marketing on a year to year basis (for international companies) but on a single holiday it is somewhat significant. Companies like Proctor & Gamble spend even more then that as do large airlines...

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#23 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

Yeah. according to this, Sony likes to gloat about spending big wads of cash as well.

But of course, Microsoft is the only one that gets ragged on for it. That's certainly fair.



Just to clear this up, Where in that link does Sony say "We spent $30 million on these kiosks!"? Pretty sure Jack just said they had a bunch of kiosks out there for people to play, rather than gloating about how much they spent.

Microsoft is outright saying "We are spending THIS MUCH money so you will buy our product!"

Hell, I'm not saying Sony or Nintendo are innocent, I'm sure they've tossed out sales figures as well, but MS does this far more openly, and to much greater fanfaire than is needed. They just seem excessive when it comes to showing how "awesome and rich" they are. Sony has been arrogant in the past, absolutely, But it seems lately Microsoft is trying hard for THAT crown as well.

But go ahead and victimise poor Microsoft, the little company that could. Afterall, what did they ever do to us?

Jack Tretton confirmed that there were in excess of 15,000 kiosks for people to play. These kiosks cost money, to the tune of 30 million. No, they didn't outright say "we're spending this much money so you'll buy our products" but the kiosks speak for themselves. What are demo kiosks if they aren't playable advertisements? They want you to spend, so they give you a nice, big, interactive reason to do so.

Microsoft's level of arrogance doesn't come close to matching Sony's as they were at the start of this generation. Hell, they've even conceeded that, odds are, they're not going to beat the Wii. The only reason Sony hasn't been as arrogant as they were in the past is because they can't afford to be. This generation, they thought they could sit back and relax as the PS3 continued the PS2's dominance but they were wrong. Both Microsoft and Nintendo gave them a swift kick to the head in that regard.

I'm not victimizing Microsoft. The tone of your earlier argument made them out to be the bad guys while everyone else was a damn saint in your eyes. I'm just putting things in perspective.

"where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful."

You did say that, did you not?

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This is great newsFFXIII360
Because it affects you how ?
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#25 0rin
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We are arging two different things here. You guys are arguing that its just marketing. Which truely is fine.

I'm not arguging about them marketing. I'm arguing about them gloating about how much they are spending openly to websites, like this.

It just seems arrogant to me. thats is all.
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Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

is just some way to bash America? because microsoft has a business strategy?

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#27 mattbbpl
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We are arging two different things here. You guys are arguing that its just marketing. Which truely is fine.

I'm not arguging about them marketing. I'm arguing about them gloating about how much they are spending openly to websites, like this.

It just seems arrogant to me. thats is all.
0rin
This type of news isn't meant for the consumer. It's meant for MS's investors who are obviously very interested in how and how much Microsoft is promoting it's key products.

It's also meant to make the platform more appealing to developers to help draw their titles to the platform.

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[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
shoeman12

is just some way to bash America? because microsoft has a business strategy?

To be fair America isn't capitalist, some countries in America as well as other places in the world are :P
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We are arging two different things here. You guys are arguing that its just marketing. Which truely is fine.

I'm not arguging about them marketing. I'm arguing about them gloating about how much they are spending openly to websites, like this.

It just seems arrogant to me. thats is all.
0rin
Maybe if you consider what the person who's reporting the story wrote, but he just took a direct quote line and put it in there. How it's said is how you interpret it, but that statement could have gone with a press release of some sort, or during a press conference or something. To me it's nothing but just another statement to how much they are doing business. It sounds a bit lik they are gloating maybe, but hey... it just shows they are willing to also put forth the cash they have and spend on it unlike someone who's pretty reserved in most of their fundings and would let good games go unnoticed (Nintendo...)
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Yes this is so suprising, I mean why would a small company like microsoft spend big bucks?:P
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#31 0rin
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[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
shoeman12

is just some way to bash America? because microsoft has a business strategy?



I was going to make a comment based on your sig, but I'll skip that part and just say NO. I am not bashing America, I am happy living here, and enjoying my freedom. I was just being silly i guess. I do think it doesn't help our image though. But as Yoshi said, I guess it's just a matter of perspective, and that statement *might not* have been made to a reporter, but just "over heard".

So whatever. Lets just end it on this note:

Who here cares how much they are spending? Really, who here on SW REALLY, TRUELY cares on how MS manages their money?

Didn't think so.
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[QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="0rin"]Typical Microsoft. Gloat about blowing wads of cash, where as all the other companies are spending similar amounts of money, and remaining reserved and respectful.

Go America! Go Capitalism! Woooo... .. oo.. yeah.

*facepalm*
0rin

is just some way to bash America? because microsoft has a business strategy?



I was going to make a comment based on your sig, but I'll skip that part and just say NO. I am not bashing America, I am happy living here, and enjoying my freedom. I was just being silly i guess. I do think it doesn't help our image though. But as Yoshi said, I guess it's just a matter of perspective, and that statement *might not* have been made to a reporter, but just "over heard".

So whatever. Lets just end it on this note:

Who here cares how much they are spending? Really, who here on SW REALLY, TRUELY cares on how MS manages their money?

Didn't think so.

I do. I own some of their stock :)

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#34 blackace
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..in the run-up to Christmas.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/31825/Xbox-spending-tens-of-millions-on-Xmas

As I was driving into the big local shopping complex this morning there was a big sign right on the entrance to the car park, before you even got in, saying simply Xbox 360 £129.99. Me thinks there might be more than a few units leaving shelves this Xmas.

speedsix

Well, Microsoft needs to hype their system and the games for the holidays. They just did a price drop in Europe, so why not annouce it to the public. XBox 360 haven't been selling that great in Europe, so they really need to do something about it. I think M$ is doing a decent job promoting their system and hyping their big name games. They really just need to bring more JRPG's to Japan and create at least 50% more exclusive games for the 360. Hopefully we'll get that come Sept 25th.

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#35 neo_z28
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Why aren't they spending money on building a reliable system? I had nothing but problems with mine. Glad its gone now.