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#1 MightyMuna
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Microsoft's European VP for interactive entertainment, Chris Lewis, has said the battle between the PS3 and 360 in the US is over, with the company now focusing its attention on Europe

When asked if the battle between the PS3 and the 360 was now decided in the US, Lewis said Microsoft has "done the job we need to in North America", and that the company would focus more effort on increasing the 360's lead over the PS3 in Europe.

I agree. PS3 can never catch 360 in NA. probably even in worldwide sales, PS3 will never catch up to the 360 this gen. what say you guys?

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#2 HarlockJC
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Never say never again
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#3 STRETCH-E
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Is that why they've stopped trying to get exclusives?

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#4 MachoBuzzzy
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Maybe its:US market has already decided:P?
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#5 Giancar
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already decided....for the wii anyways, sony needs a price cut right now, it has the software, has the hardware, just needs a good price dop It won't surpass the 360, but it will get very close to it
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#6 POJO_MOFO
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I agree that I dont see PS3 sales catching the 360 in NA. It may be possible worldwide depending on how long this generation goes. PS3 is rapidly approaching the 360 as far a AAA games available though, and they are neck and neck as far as Im concerned in that department
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#7 carlisledavid79
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The wii decided the market worldwide months ago.
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#8 -Snooze-
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Microsoft's European VP? Speaking about the US market ... Smart

They're turning Sony on us, talking about victory and how awesome they are, when they should be making games. Forza and ODST will not satisfy most gamers ...

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#9 Rhubarb9
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does this mean they will stop caring about their fanbase? like they did with the original Xbox? surpise suprise?

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#10 kendrene
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already decided....for the wii anyways, sony needs a price cut right now, it has the software, has the hardware, just needs a good price dop It won't surpass the 360, but it will get very close to itGiancar

I agree with you, I'd get a ps3 if it was less expensive- but can they really afford to do it right now? I mean, does anyone know how much money goes in the making of each console? (if anyone does I'd like to know) cause I don't think you can risk a price drop if you can't cover manufacturing costs.

Also- Sony should include an hdmi cable with every ps3- it's a shame a console designed for HD comes without.

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#11 Floppy_Jim
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It'll surpass it, but maybe not before this gen finishes. And maybe never in NA. They're both selling fine so no-one should lose sleep over it.
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#12 -Snooze-
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does this mean they will stop caring about their fanbase? like they did with the original Xbox? surpise suprise?

Rhubarb9
How you worked that out is beyond me ...
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#13 xxThyLordxx
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to MS, never say never. anyway, the battle between 360 and PS3 depends on the longevity of this gen. if this gen is short, 360 will win, if it is long, PS3 will win. 360 is a short term console, if this gen is long, PS3 will win because, it will eventually come to a point where price wont be an issue anymore, all consoles will be relatively affordable and it would be games that will be the deciding factor and thats when 360 will be finally exposed. PS3 will have lots of games, it will beat the 360 till it has no more RROD.
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#14 ArchaoN
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"done the job we need to in North America"

MightyMuna

Misleading topic. MS didn't say the US market has already been decided. This guy said what you quoted above...very different than saying the market has already been decided.

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#15 Flamestos
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It'll be a struggle but they still can barely pull it off in the U.S by the end. Europe I doubt Microsoft will beat Sony once a price drop, GT5 and a couple of other games hit but who knows...
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#16 EVOLV3
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Im pretty sure, America has chosen the Wii...

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#17 dveight88
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Im pretty sure, America has chosen the Wii...

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nobody ever accused microsoft with being honest

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#18 navyguy21
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Im pretty sure, America has chosen the Wii...

EVOLV3

lol, the UNIVERSE has chosen the wii :lol:

Source - unconfirmed :P

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#19 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

does this mean they will stop caring about their fanbase? like they did with the original Xbox? surpise suprise?

-Snooze-
How you worked that out is beyond me ...

i was thinking the same lol
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#20 stayhigh1
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The PS3 can catch up but they need a price drop..Microsoft 360 is not destroying the PS3 they are only 6 million ahead of their rival..Its to early to say they won NA..The only way i agree with them is if the PS3 is 299 and if its still being outsell by the 360. Ill gladly accept defeat but right now the PS3 is manage to sell just good even with a high price tag..

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#21 bingbaocao
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The PS3 can catch up but they need a price drop..Microsoft 360 is not destroying the PS3 they are only 6 million ahead of their rival..Its to early to say they won NA..The only way i agree with them is if the PS3 is 299 and if its still being outsell by the 360. Ill gladly accept defeat but right now the PS3 is manage to sell just good even with a high price tag..

stayhigh1

i thought it was an 8 million lead

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#22 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="stayhigh1"]

The PS3 can catch up but they need a price drop..Microsoft 360 is not destroying the PS3 they are only 6 million ahead of their rival..Its to early to say they won NA..The only way i agree with them is if the PS3 is 299 and if its still being outsell by the 360. Ill gladly accept defeat but right now the PS3 is manage to sell just good even with a high price tag..

bingbaocao

i thought it was an 8 million lead

It is an 8 million lead..
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#23 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="bingbaocao"]

[QUOTE="stayhigh1"]

The PS3 can catch up but they need a price drop..Microsoft 360 is not destroying the PS3 they are only 6 million ahead of their rival..Its to early to say they won NA..The only way i agree with them is if the PS3 is 299 and if its still being outsell by the 360. Ill gladly accept defeat but right now the PS3 is manage to sell just good even with a high price tag..

OhSnapitz

i thought it was an 8 million lead

It is an 8 million lead..

by the way, aren't sony's and microsoff's quarterly reports due any day now? don't they always say just home much they did sell?
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#24 Bazfrag
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So why pay for Outrun exclusivity in NA if your turning your attention to other markets? My take on the situation is NA is the only major territory they can "win" and they know it. (by winning they mean losing by tens of millions to Wii)
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#25 thinicer
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I think that NA is decided: Nintendo has won.

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#26 Tiefster
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O they better hope this doesn't come back to bite them.

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#27 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Yes, and it has chosen the Wii, so what, MS? :|
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#28 PSdual_wielder
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So microsoft is done with the US market? They're still behind the wii. But there's always Sony whom they're never done with anything. ;)

Further evidence that Sony is better.

P.S. Yes I'm doing this to annoy everyone.

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#29 ahwang826
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the title seems misleading because when he said the job is done...he could mean that their job was to increase their marketshare(which they did) not that ps3 wont catch up to xbox.

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#30 delaystation3
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And this will make xbox have better games how......???
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#31 Nonstop-Madness
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Bad Mistake by MS, never count out Playstation.

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#32 black_tempest
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Haha come one, lets be honest, until it's over with, making statements like these it pointless, because anything can happen

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#33 NYrockinlegend
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*sighs* What a disappointment, MS. You need to be more competent, as Sony isn't giving ground to you just so you can rule in other countries.:/ Well, the PS3 is winning the battle in their homeland, even against the Wii. They're not doing bad in NA or Europe either.
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#35 dr_jashugan
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Well, M$ will have to make a real big effort, cause Europeans REALLY DO NOT TOLERATE unreliable hardware. 8)

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#36 SUD123456
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Speaking exclusively to 360, Microsoft EMEA's VP for Interactive Entertainment Business Chris Lewis admitted that the new emphasis on this region is because Microsoft considers the Japanese and North American regions as more or less decided between Xbox 360 and PS3.

"If you were to put it that perhaps we feel we've done the job we need to do in North America and that Europe is more on the cusp relative to the North American market in terms of our position versus the competition, then I think that's a fair assessment," he told us.

"Europe is incredibly important as a geography for us in line with our worldwide ambition and really the battle is still raging in the US."

While the console war has yet to be definitively won in any region it remains clear that only extraordinary circumstances could wrestle dominance of North America from the Xbox 360 or take Japan away from the PS3. That is why Europe is now so important, with much closer hardware sales figures and the balance of power shifting from week to week.

http://www.nowgamer.com/features/255/the-360-takes-on-europe

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#37 kingtito
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*sighs* What a disappointment, MS. You need to be more competent, as Sony isn't giving ground to you just so you can rule in other countries.:/ Well, the PS3 is winning the battle in their homeland, even against the Wii. They're not doing bad in NA or Europe either. NYrockinlegend
I wouldn't say Sony is "winning" the battle in their home land. They've had a good month or 2 after over 2 years. I'd hardly call that winning. Not to mention it's the smallest market of the big 3.
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#38 XBebop
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The 360's been outselling the PS3 in Europe for quite a while now.

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#39 Silverbond
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I'm glad to see MS is conceding defeat to Nintendo. Such sportsmanship.

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#40 Senor_Kami
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I think it'd take multiple miracle years for the PS3 in NA and multiple total failure years for the 360 in NA for the PS3 to even catch up sales wise. Japan is kinda dead for both companies, moreso for the 360 but I think it's so small of a market that like the # of PS3s sold in the US for like November and December of any one year is about equal to the LTD sales of the PS3 in Japan. The close battle is in the "others". MS is going to have to really fight hard to stay ahead in that market. IMO, their dirt cheap price is the only thing that's kept them ahead and not be overtaken. They need to really focus on the Euro gamer and start pumping titles out specifically for that guy. The 3rd parties will keep them totally fine in the US as long as they can get a Halo or Gears out every other year and have smaller exclusives (ie Lost Odyssey, Forza, etc) to pad them the rest of the way.
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#41 darth-pyschosis
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funny how they diss sony for PS3 being 3rd place, yet 360 is the 3rd most popular console in NA with DS, and Wii being ahead of it

(and DS having a superior library)

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#42 Deiuos
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The US war is over? Well ... dang. Pack your guns, fellas.

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#43 RonnieLottinSF
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The 360 has a 8+ million lead over the PS3 WW and is growing every month so yeah it is over.

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#44 black_knight402
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Intresting, all Microsoftneedsto do isbuy EB, Midway and Valve Corpthen its a gurantee their ahead on the market.

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#45 finalfantasy94
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I thought the wii was ahead. Silly me.

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yeah anyone with a business degree, common sense or knows the market will tell you that the us market has not been decided. first of all ms is being cocky as hell to say this and this will bit them in the a$$. yes ms does sell more than the ps3 but its half the price of the ps3. we all know if sony price drops sales will rise. common sense. plus ms is not that too far ahead to actually say this. if the gap was 10-20 million and continuing to rise then i could understand, but ww isn't the 360 8 million ahead? lets just break this up and say that the 360 is 4 million ahead in the us. anyone can pass ms, that number is very passable. i call bs on ms.
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yeah anyone with a business degree, common sense or knows the market will tell you that the us market has not been decided. first of all ms is being cocky as hell to say this and this will bit them in the a$$. yes ms does sell more than the ps3 but its half the price of the ps3. we all know if sony price drops sales will rise. common sense. plus ms is not that too far ahead to actually say this. if the gap was 10-20 million and continuing to rise then i could understand, but ww isn't the 360 8 million ahead? lets just break this up and say that the 360 is 4 million ahead in the us. anyone can pass ms, that number is very passable. i call bs on ms.sireclaborn
You think the PS3 sales in the US will suddenly skyrocket? Not even KZ2 helped Sony all that much in America.
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

does this mean they will stop caring about their fanbase? like they did with the original Xbox? surpise suprise?

bingbaocao

How you worked that out is beyond me ...

i was thinking the same lol

Like if MS stopped everything in the US. (not focusing)

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[QUOTE="sireclaborn"]yeah anyone with a business degree, common sense or knows the market will tell you that the us market has not been decided. first of all ms is being cocky as hell to say this and this will bit them in the a$$. yes ms does sell more than the ps3 but its half the price of the ps3. we all know if sony price drops sales will rise. common sense. plus ms is not that too far ahead to actually say this. if the gap was 10-20 million and continuing to rise then i could understand, but ww isn't the 360 8 million ahead? lets just break this up and say that the 360 is 4 million ahead in the us. anyone can pass ms, that number is very passable. i call bs on ms.Deiuos
You think the PS3 sales in the US will suddenly skyrocket? Not even KZ2 helped Sony all that much in America.

why does everyone think kz2 is as big as gta or halo, plus we won't know of sony sales until tomorrow. anyway 199 console is going to sell more than a 399 console. we all know why sony sales are low it very expensive especial during this
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#50 Deiuos
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[QUOTE="Deiuos"][QUOTE="sireclaborn"]yeah anyone with a business degree, common sense or knows the market will tell you that the us market has not been decided. first of all ms is being cocky as hell to say this and this will bit them in the a$$. yes ms does sell more than the ps3 but its half the price of the ps3. we all know if sony price drops sales will rise. common sense. plus ms is not that too far ahead to actually say this. if the gap was 10-20 million and continuing to rise then i could understand, but ww isn't the 360 8 million ahead? lets just break this up and say that the 360 is 4 million ahead in the us. anyone can pass ms, that number is very passable. i call bs on ms.sireclaborn
You think the PS3 sales in the US will suddenly skyrocket? Not even KZ2 helped Sony all that much in America.

why does everyone think kz2 is as big as gta or halo, plus we won't know of sony sales until tomorrow. anyway 199 console is going to sell more than a 399 console. we all know why sony sales are low it very expensive especial during this

Because KZ2's hype level was off the charts on here. It seemed like it was a no brainer that it'd give Sony a huge boost in sales, yet ... it didn't help it as much as it needed, at all.