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#1 matteno1
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With Nintendo out of the running (see earlier post), what will decide the outcome of the next generation console wars? Here's part two of my prediction. I claim that:

Sony will dominate first party titles (again): Microsoft has worked hard to build it's own portfolio, but the number of franchises built by Sony over two generations of market leadership tips the scales in its favour.

Third party support will favour the Xbox in the short term (again): The PS2 was difficult to develop for. It's easy to see why more high profile PC titles came out on the more powerful and developer friendly Xbox. Sony's worked hard to level the playing field, but the introduction of it's (seriously) multicore processor yet again leaves developers confused.

Third party support may favour the PS3 in the long term: In five years, no one will develop software for single core processors. Premium cross-platform titles already look better on high spec PC:s than the 360. If (and I say if) the PS3 is a more powerful platform than the 360, it may be easier to port PC games to the PS3 in a few years. 

Wireless is largely a hygiene factor: It's 2006, of course controllers and network connections is expected, even demanded. Both consoles are all the way wireless, so it won't be a factor.

Sony will copy Xbox Live and even out the score: Online gaming didn't become a wide spread phenomenon during the current generation. It was an era of wires and dial-up and hassle. In the coming generation, it will be easy, wireless and expected. Microsoft has a head start, but the online service is so easy to copy, that it won't be a real competitive factor. The size of the system's installed base will decide the strength of its online community.

Windows Vista is important: With a Media Center built in to every copy of Windows shipping post 2006, running TV through your computer will become a reality for a growing number of gamers and the 360 will quickly become the extender of choice. The PS3 will not.

High capacity disc will make or break the PS3: People will buy HDTV:s in mass over the next couple of years. High capacity disc players will be expensive, and anyone who's interested in both games and video will think long and hard before ditching the PS3 for an Xbox. Establish Blu-ray as the de facto standard and Sony's in good health. HD-DVD and there's trouble all over.

OK guys, your turn. Just to let you all know before you lay into me: I own a PS2 and an Xbox 360. I have every intention of getting both the PS3 and the Revolution. What do you think will decide the war?

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I'm really excited about Window Vista.
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PC > Xbox 360 - Playstation 3

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PC > Xbox 360 - Playstation 3

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With Nintendo out of the running (see earlier post), what will decide the outcome of the next generation console wars? Here's part two of my prediction. I claim that:

Sony will dominate first party titles (again): Microsoft has worked hard to build it's own portfolio, but the number of franchises built by Sony over two generations of market leadership tips the scales in its favour.

Third party support will favour the Xbox in the short term (again): The PS2 was difficult to develop for. It's easy to see why more high profile PC titles came out on the more powerful and developer friendly Xbox. Sony's worked hard to level the playing field, but the introduction of it's (seriously) multicore processor yet again leaves developers confused.

Third party support may favour the PS3 in the long term: In five years, no one will develop software for single core processors. Premium cross-platform titles already look better on high spec PC:s than the 360. If (and I say if) the PS3 is a more powerful platform than the 360, it may be easier to port PC games to the PS3 in a few years. 

Wireless is largely a hygiene factor: It's 2006, of course controllers and network connections is expected, even demanded. Both consoles are all the way wireless, so it won't be a factor.

Sony will copy Xbox Live and even out the score: Online gaming didn't become a wide spread phenomenon during the current generation. It was an era of wires and dial-up and hassle. In the coming generation, it will be easy, wireless and expected. Microsoft has a head start, but the online service is so easy to copy, that it won't be a real competitive factor. The size of the system's installed base will decide the strength of its online community.

Windows Vista is important: With a Media Center built in to every copy of Windows shipping post 2006, running TV through your computer will become a reality for a growing number of gamers and the 360 will quickly become the extender of choice. The PS3 will not.

We don't know what the console OS of the ps3 will offer us. So you can't really make that assumption yet. I hope it's something like the PSP. :D

High capacity disc will make or break the PS3: People will buy HDTV:s in mass over the next couple of years. High capacity disc players will be expensive, and anyone who's interested in both games and video will think long and hard before ditching the PS3 for an Xbox. Establish Blu-ray as the de facto standard and Sony's in good health. HD-DVD and there's trouble all over.

OK guys, your turn. Just to let you all know before you lay into me: I own a PS2 and an Xbox 360. I have every intention of getting both the PS3 and the Revolution. What do you think will decide the war?

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Stopped reading when you talked about how hard the ps2 was to program for. Sorry but its not the same this time.

With both 360 and ps3 being multicore, they both are equal to program for, and both has some very nice middle ware support.

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Stopped reading when you wrote "stopped reading". :wink:
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Stopped reading when you talked about how hard the ps2 was to program for. Sorry but its not the same this time.

With both 360 and ps3 being multicore, they both are equal to program for, and both has some very nice middle ware support.

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Not true. ID said that they would much rather use the 360 because its much easier to use.
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Sony > M$

Fair enough?

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Honestly it's all going to come down to the games. If PS3 and 360 maintain the same standards of  having great games then PS3 will win just for the fact there is a much bigger fanbase for Playstation than there is with xbox. Sony holds their fate in their own hands. If PS3 ends up having crappy games which nobody likes then their fanbase will turn to either Revolution or 360. If PS3 ends up too expensive I see people getting a different system for the time being untill PS3 becomes affordable. Other than that, there is no other way for PS3 to lose. They have to big of fanbase.
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PS3s Controller alone is enough to make me not get the system
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With Nintendo out of the running (see earlier post), what will decide the outcome of the next generation console wars? Here's part two of my prediction. I claim that:

Sony will dominate first party titles (again): Microsoft has worked hard to build it's own portfolio, but the number of franchises built by Sony over two generations of market leadership tips the scales in its favour.

Third party support will favour the Xbox in the short term (again): The PS2 was difficult to develop for. It's easy to see why more high profile PC titles came out on the more powerful and developer friendly Xbox. Sony's worked hard to level the playing field, but the introduction of it's (seriously) multicore processor yet again leaves developers confused.

Third party support may favour the PS3 in the long term: In five years, no one will develop software for single core processors. Premium cross-platform titles already look better on high spec PC:s than the 360. If (and I say if) the PS3 is a more powerful platform than the 360, it may be easier to port PC games to the PS3 in a few years.

Wireless is largely a hygiene factor: It's 2006, of course controllers and network connections is expected, even demanded. Both consoles are all the way wireless, so it won't be a factor.

Sony will copy Xbox Live and even out the score: Online gaming didn't become a wide spread phenomenon during the current generation. It was an era of wires and dial-up and hassle. In the coming generation, it will be easy, wireless and expected. Microsoft has a head start, but the online service is so easy to copy, that it won't be a real competitive factor. The size of the system's installed base will decide the strength of its online community.

Windows Vista is important: With a Media Center built in to every copy of Windows shipping post 2006, running TV through your computer will become a reality for a growing number of gamers and the 360 will quickly become the extender of choice. The PS3 will not.

High capacity disc will make or break the PS3: People will buy HDTV:s in mass over the next couple of years. High capacity disc players will be expensive, and anyone who's interested in both games and video will think long and hard before ditching the PS3 for an Xbox. Establish Blu-ray as the de facto standard and Sony's in good health. HD-DVD and there's trouble all over.

OK guys, your turn. Just to let you all know before you lay into me: I own a PS2 and an Xbox 360. I have every intention of getting both the PS3 and the Revolution. What do you think will decide the war?

matteno1


Multicore processing won't be as confusing as it could be if MS has a decent set of middleware to help developers take advantage of them easily.  MS has already garnered praise for the quality of their development tools, so I don't see this a make-or-break issue.

Online services are only as good as they are planned.  Sony can level the playing field if and only if their online service is as feature-rich and as easy to use as Xbox Live.  No, this is not easy to copy feature for feature.  Looking into my crystal ball, I see Sony's online being either barebones or with many features but poor integration.  Considering their lack of experience in the online space and OS integration, I see them using this gen as a learning experience they'll use to build for the PS4.
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pixel shader 4 + dx10 + vista = ultimate console ownage. all of this by the end of the year.

and this comes from a cow.

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