Microsoft==Admits their mistakes, does the right thing. Sony==Still Arrogant

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

Microsoft still claims the failure rate is 3-5%. That's not admitting their mistakes.

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

accameron

your ideas are wrong about the price drop, being angry beacuse of 100$ price drop. i mean all consoles will have price drop and you would assume that if u buy at launch you would already know the console will get cheaper, even in computer each months not even years computers are getting cheaper and knowing that you would also assume that if u buy a comp now 3 month later it'll cost lessthan what u payed, even xbox has price drops and will still have price drop you would be a idoit thinking that sony droping the price for ps3 would make ppl made beacuse they bought it at launch.

Yes, all these devs have switched to the 360 "by the boatload". :roll:

My favorite franchises from the ps2 are still exclusive to the ps3, so I bought a ps3. MGS, J&D, and GoW were myfavoritesfrom the ps2.

Microsoft-still hiding from the truth. Sony-catching up slowly.

Like I said before. Covering festering wounds with Brand-X bandaids. Next from Microsoft- five year warranty and still in the black.

There should have never been extremely high failure rates in the first place. Just like there should have never been a console released at a 600 dollar pricepoint. But the fact is: I would rather buy a ps3 at a reduced price, than a 360 that will probably break, even if it comes with an extended warranty.

So no, I don't se MS doing a superior job in that regard.

Really? Microsoft admits mistakes?

Then please tell me why Microsoft isn't offering XBL for free, hasn't said a word on their crap launch lineup, and hasn't remarked on the noisiness and defectiveness of many of their 360 units?

I'm not hating on MS here, but you're right; they are not as arrogant as Sony, but they still are arrogant SOB's. These are the same people that made the Zune, after all, an abomination to the living world of humans. O_o

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

accameron

Microsoft still claims the failure rate is 3-5%. That's not admitting their mistakes.

jim_shorts

lies.

they admitted almost a year ago that the failure rate was above 'reasonable' limits.

[QUOTE="accameron"]

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

pminooei

your ideas are wrong about the price drop, being angry beacuse of 100$ price drop. i mean all consoles will have price drop and you would assume that if u buy at launch you would already know the console will get cheaper, even in computer each months not even years computers are getting cheaper and knowing that you would also assume that if u buy a comp now 3 month later it'll cost lessthan what u payed, even xbox has price drops and will still have price drop you would be a idoit thinking that sony droping the price for ps3 would make ppl made beacuse they bought it at launch.

The PS3 is only been out for a bit more than 7 months. The 360 has been out for almost 2 years without a price drop. Of course there will be a backlash from people who bought a PS3 these past several MONTHS.

[QUOTE="pminooei"][QUOTE="accameron"]

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

ReverseCycology

your ideas are wrong about the price drop, being angry beacuse of 100$ price drop. i mean all consoles will have price drop and you would assume that if u buy at launch you would already know the console will get cheaper, even in computer each months not even years computers are getting cheaper and knowing that you would also assume that if u buy a comp now 3 month later it'll cost lessthan what u payed, even xbox has price drops and will still have price drop you would be a idoit thinking that sony droping the price for ps3 would make ppl made beacuse they bought it at launch.

The PS3 is only been out for a bit more than 7 months. The 360 has been out for almost 2 years without a price drop. Of course there will be a backlash from people who bought a PS3 these past several MONTHS.

Yeah, because the poeple who bought a ps3 during the launch period until now didn't know there would be a price drop right?

They just thought it would be 600 dollars it's whole life right?:roll:

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="pminooei"][QUOTE="accameron"]

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

Trading_Zoner

your ideas are wrong about the price drop, being angry beacuse of 100$ price drop. i mean all consoles will have price drop and you would assume that if u buy at launch you would already know the console will get cheaper, even in computer each months not even years computers are getting cheaper and knowing that you would also assume that if u buy a comp now 3 month later it'll cost lessthan what u payed, even xbox has price drops and will still have price drop you would be a idoit thinking that sony droping the price for ps3 would make ppl made beacuse they bought it at launch.

The PS3 is only been out for a bit more than 7 months. The 360 has been out for almost 2 years without a price drop. Of course there will be a backlash from people who bought a PS3 these past several MONTHS.

Yeah, because the poeple who bought a ps3 during the launch period until now didn't know there would be a price drop right?

They just thought it would be 600 dollars it's whole life right?:roll:

Name any console that dropped its price within a year?

LOL @ topic. MS has not admitted any mistake. Admitting a mistake would have been fixing the 360's design flaws, and aknowledging that the old ones are flawed. Instead, they keep making the warrenty longer and longer, and refuse to admit taht they made a highly defective machine.

Sony is arrogant? Hah. They've eaten plenty of humble pie in the last year, but I suppose that there will never be enough for their haters. The only thing that would make Lemmings and Sheep say Sony is no longer arrogant is if they went out of business, and then said "Yeah, we screwed up... badly. Sorry about that." Please, just let go of the "Sony is arrogant" card. All three of the console makers have done more than their fair share of showboating lately, it's just that Sony gets picked on the most.

[QUOTE="pminooei"][QUOTE="accameron"]

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

ReverseCycology

your ideas are wrong about the price drop, being angry beacuse of 100$ price drop. i mean all consoles will have price drop and you would assume that if u buy at launch you would already know the console will get cheaper, even in computer each months not even years computers are getting cheaper and knowing that you would also assume that if u buy a comp now 3 month later it'll cost lessthan what u payed, even xbox has price drops and will still have price drop you would be a idoit thinking that sony droping the price for ps3 would make ppl made beacuse they bought it at launch.

The PS3 is only been out for a bit more than 7 months. The 360 has been out for almost 2 years without a price drop. Of course there will be a backlash from people who bought a PS3 these past several MONTHS.

computers get cheaper each month and everyone knew that ps3 will have a price drop when they found out about the price also if u don't believe me why don't u ask those ppl who bought ps3 and see if they backlash or not, i bet most of those ppl don't even care and some ppl will think it's a good news but it's normal for u to say it cause u don't have a ps3.

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="pminooei"][QUOTE="accameron"]

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

ReverseCycology

your ideas are wrong about the price drop, being angry beacuse of 100$ price drop. i mean all consoles will have price drop and you would assume that if u buy at launch you would already know the console will get cheaper, even in computer each months not even years computers are getting cheaper and knowing that you would also assume that if u buy a comp now 3 month later it'll cost lessthan what u payed, even xbox has price drops and will still have price drop you would be a idoit thinking that sony droping the price for ps3 would make ppl made beacuse they bought it at launch.

The PS3 is only been out for a bit more than 7 months. The 360 has been out for almost 2 years without a price drop. Of course there will be a backlash from people who bought a PS3 these past several MONTHS.

Yeah, because the poeple who bought a ps3 during the launch period until now didn't know there would be a price drop right?

They just thought it would be 600 dollars it's whole life right?:roll:

Name any console that dropped its price within a year?

OUCH!!!! OUCH!!! IT HURTS!!!! THE PWNAGE!!!!

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="pminooei"][QUOTE="accameron"]

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

ReverseCycology

your ideas are wrong about the price drop, being angry beacuse of 100$ price drop. i mean all consoles will have price drop and you would assume that if u buy at launch you would already know the console will get cheaper, even in computer each months not even years computers are getting cheaper and knowing that you would also assume that if u buy a comp now 3 month later it'll cost lessthan what u payed, even xbox has price drops and will still have price drop you would be a idoit thinking that sony droping the price for ps3 would make ppl made beacuse they bought it at launch.

The PS3 is only been out for a bit more than 7 months. The 360 has been out for almost 2 years without a price drop. Of course there will be a backlash from people who bought a PS3 these past several MONTHS.

Yeah, because the poeple who bought a ps3 during the launch period until now didn't know there would be a price drop right?

They just thought it would be 600 dollars it's whole life right?:roll:

Name any console that dropped its price within a year?

umm.....the original xbox lol

is the TC actually praising MS for admitting something they never should have denied? now suddenly MS is the golden company that can do no wrong? Sony has made some really controversialmoves up to this point, but what exactly were they hiding? Mordred19

Nothing recently but if you're talking about the past what about all the E3 05 real time stuff that went and bit them on the ass?

umm.....the original xbox lol

MikeE21286

Wrong. Sorry I said name a console that had a price drop WITHIN A YEAR. The original Xbox was $299 USD November 15, 2001. Then finally dropped its price May 15, 2003 by $179 USD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The PS3 is only been out for a bit more than 7 months. The 360 has been out for almost 2 years without a price drop. Of course there will be a backlash from people who bought a PS3 these past several MONTHS.

ReverseCycology

Yeah, because the poeple who bought a ps3 during the launch period until now didn't know there would be a price drop right?

They just thought it would be 600 dollars it's whole life right?:roll:

Name any console that dropped its price within a year?

I'll name two. N64, $50 drop two weeks before it launched in North America. PS2, $1,000 to $700 (Aussie Dollars) within a month in Australia.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

umm.....the original xbox lol

ReverseCycology

Wrong. Sorry I said name a console that had a price drop WITHIN A YEAR. The original Xbox was $299 USD November 15, 2001. Then finally dropped its price May 15, 2003 by $179 USD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox

• US$299 (November 15, 2001, Launch Price) (CAD$449)
• US$199 (May 15, 2002) (CAD$299)

Bro...your link even shows the price drop right in it. If this isn't the definition of self-ownage I don't know what is.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]is the TC actually praising MS for admitting something they never should have denied? now suddenly MS is the golden company that can do no wrong? Sony has made some really controversial moves up to this point, but what exactly were they hiding? CJL13

Nothing recently but if you're talking about the past what about all the E3 05 real time stuff that went and bit them on the ass?

a few BS trailers and some overzealous PR. They've pretty much moved on since then... got rid of Kutagari, and Phil Harrison complemented Nintendo and acknowlegded Sony's problems in a GameInformer interview.

you know what's better than an extended warrenty? making a next gen console built to be reliable, after learning a harsh lesson the previous generation (PS2= massive DREs, PS3=1% failure)

Some of you really need to pull your heads out of the sand. This has nothing to do with Microsoft caring about gamers or being nice. I would be willing to bet that Microsoft's corporate actuaries calculated the cost of extending the warranty was much cheaper than dealing with a future classs action lawsuits. Microsoft didnt' get where they are because they play nice or care about their consumers. ramey70

thank you for wading through all the polite niceties and just getting to the heart of this issue

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]

Microsoft still claims the failure rate is 3-5%. That's not admitting their mistakes.

3picuri3

lies.

they admitted almost a year ago that the failure rate was above 'reasonable' limits.

MS executive: Are we there yet?
MS PR rep: No, sir. Weare only a bit above the "reasonable" limit
UPS: Hi sir, we are here to deliver truck loads of broken 360s. Who's signing?

MS executive: Is it ok now?
MS PR rep: NO, sir. We are going up but we are just a bit more above the limit.
UPS: Hi sir,we are here to deliever ship loads of broken 360s. Who's signing?

MS executive: Are we there yet?
MS PR rep: No, sir. We are getting more but we think we can manage. We are only somewhat above the limit.
Phone rings... Ding Ding...

UPS: Hi, this is UPS. Your 360s are clogging up our warehouses causing delays in our system. Plz come and pick them up!
MS executive: Are we there yet?
MS PR rep: What problem? I only see the 360s here and we are shipping them out as fast as we are getting them. I think we can manage.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

umm.....the original xbox lol

MikeE21286

Wrong. Sorry I said name a console that had a price drop WITHIN A YEAR. The original Xbox was $299 USD November 15, 2001. Then finally dropped its price May 15, 2003 by $179 USD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox

• US$299 (November 15, 2001, Launch Price) (CAD$449)
• US$199 (May 15, 2002) (CAD$299)

Bro...your link even shows the price drop right in it. If this isn't the definition of self-ownage I don't know what is.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

umm.....the original xbox lol

MikeE21286

Wrong. Sorry I said name a console that had a price drop WITHIN A YEAR. The original Xbox was $299 USD November 15, 2001. Then finally dropped its price May 15, 2003 by $179 USD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox

• US$299 (November 15, 2001, Launch Price) (CAD$449)
• US$199 (May 15, 2002) (CAD$299)

Bro...your link even shows the price drop right in it. If this isn't the definition of self-ownage I don't know what is.

Ouch!!! Just hide yoiur head in shame after owning yourself like that:D

Now that MS has finally admitted problems with the 360, and is taking the high road by taking a MAJOR loss to correct the problems, this just further cements in my mind Microsoft's commitment to being in the gaming business for the long haul. They have used their substantial financial clout to secure exclusives, exclusive content, and to pull away former PS3 exclusives to their system, again all at a loss to the company. In sum, they are doing EVERYTHING that they can to be committed to 360 gamers, and to give gamers the best games and gaming experience possible. Any gamer has to at least see that Microsoft has been making some good decisions that benefit its consumers.

On the other hand, Sony is STILL making crazy comments (the latest being that the PS3 will not be a 10 year lifespan console, but rather will last for "decades"- yes, that is "decade" with an "s" at the end). Constantly losing exclusives, having devs move over to also developing former PS3 exclusives for the 360 because of "ease of programming" by the boatload. Constantly having inferior multiplatform titles. There are rumors that there might be a $100 price drop on the PS3 at E3- if I already owned a PS3, I would be FURIOUS, because that extra $100 would be for nothing. The game lineup is pretty thin at the moment, and most of the good PS3 games already out can be had on the 360. Plus, Microsoft will likely respond with a similar price drop based on whatever Sony does.

Will PS3 fans please at least admit that Microsoft is doing a far superior job right now???? Pretty please????

accameron

Yeah there admitting it now after almost 2 years later, but the thing is all mouth but no action. They need to fix these problems instead of making new consoles like the elite and still having the same chips in there. Atleast sony's ps3 is reliable, so even though sony doesnt admit things, the main thing is will your $600 machine u bought will last or will it break down? Your answer is 1% faulty rate out of 3.5 million owners. :)

MS is still lying about the failure rate...

Just tell the official failure statisticgiving more ownageto the Lemmings.

I don't recall them admitting a specific mistake only that they are disappointed in the failure rate.

Please stop giving credit to MS, you think they did this out of the kindness of their heart? How much would you bet they ran an analysis of how much it would cost them (current and future) if there was a massive lawsuit? I'm sure MS wouldn't like very much to spend millions on legal costs alone to pay the lawyers not to mention all the bad press it would get.

Sony is dropping the price like everyone is asking, it's just not enough IMO. At least they are trying and it didn't take them almost TWO YEARS to do something about it.

I dont care much for microsoft as a company, for other reasons that the xbox. But this is a good move towards the right direction. Although I didnt get the rings of death on my launch console, it does seem alot of people did. So a three year warranty is awesome, no other way to look at that people. I dont care for MS but im happy to get a three year extended warranty and you would be to if you owned a 360.

There is one company that may know the generalfailure rate. The UPS (or whomever is delivering) company that is deliver those packages to the repair centers.

I assume they use the same size boxes each time.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]is the TC actually praising MS for admitting something they never should have denied? now suddenly MS is the golden company that can do no wrong? Sony has made some really controversialmoves up to this point, but what exactly were they hiding? CJL13

Nothing recently but if you're talking about the past what about all the E3 05 real time stuff that went and bit them on the ass?

Yeah but it's not like they stole your money right? They were forcing people to pay to repair a flawed machine, and they KNEW IT. How people can suddenly say "oh that's ok, I still love you" just because they coudl no longer HIDE the truth. The dead consoles were piling up so much they couldn't even store them anymore.

Between Sony and MS, MS is the worst here IMO.

I don't recall them admitting a specific mistake only that they are disappointed in the failure rate.

Please stop giving credit to MS, you think they did this out of the kindness of their heart? How much would you bet they ran an analysis of how much it would cost them (current and future) if there was a massive lawsuit? I'm sure MS wouldn't like very much to spend millions on legal costs alone to pay the lawyers not to mention all the bad press it would get.

Sony is dropping the price like everyone is asking, it's just not enough IMO. At least they are trying and it didn't take them almost TWO YEARS to do something about it.

darthogre

I agree its about time MS started to act on their mistake. At least Sony is quick on the uptake and further lowers the price on a superior machine. I bought a PS3 at launch and I knew perfectly well the price would drop. I don't care if it's 8 months after it was released as long as more people buy the console it can only help Sony.

There should have never been extremely high failure rates in the first place. Just like there should have never been a console released at a 600 dollar pricepoint. But the fact is: I would rather buy a ps3 at a reduced price, than a 360 that will probably break, even if it comes with an extended warranty.

So no, I don't se MS doing a superior job in that regard.

Trading_Zoner

Explain to me why the hell you post in bold red all the time? Sure its fine to high light a part of a post but come on man, you are craving way to much attention.

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

There should have never been extremely high failure rates in the first place. Just like there should have never been a console released at a 600 dollar pricepoint. But the fact is: I would rather buy a ps3 at a reduced price, than a 360 that will probably break, even if it comes with an extended warranty.

So no, I don't se MS doing a superior job in that regard.

Blackbond

Explain to me why the hell you post in bold red all the time? Sure its fine to high light a part of a post but come on man, you are craving way to much attention.

Same old GameSpot... locking every thread on the XBox 360s extensive problems but leaving a thread like this open where M$ butt is being kissed while an unrelated attack is made at Sony.

Same old GameSpot.

Same old GameSpot... locking every thread on the XBox 360s extensive problems but leaving a thread like this open where M$ butt is being kissed while an unrelated attack is made at Sony.

Same old GameSpot.

larshaun

Yeah Gamespot is an XBOX 360 fanboy group and anti-PlayStation 3, I think they're getting money from M$.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

umm.....the original xbox lol

AT1JOHNSON

Wrong. Sorry I said name a console that had a price drop WITHIN A YEAR. The original Xbox was $299 USD November 15, 2001. Then finally dropped its price May 15, 2003 by $179 USD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox

• US$299 (November 15, 2001, Launch Price) (CAD$449)
• US$199 (May 15, 2002) (CAD$299)

Bro...your link even shows the price drop right in it. If this isn't the definition of self-ownage I don't know what is.

Ouch!!! Just hide yoiur head in shame after owning yourself like that:D

He didn't think anyone would actually check his link. Hahaha....