Microsoft's camera has no functionality.

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

mario_gamer

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

mario_gamer

Well, it is responsive, I give it that.

Plus, give it time...

[QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

nmaharg

Yeah, apparently using feet and hands. I dunno how you have to situate, or how comfortable it is to play liek that though.

[QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

nmaharg

Just read that article and i find it hard to believe anyone would play a game like that, that is not true implementation.

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

mario_gamer

Just read that article and i find it hard to believe anyone would play a game like that, that is not true implementation.

How is it not true implementation. Is there such a thing as false implementation?

Isn't it odd that natal can do this? AND it could use the balls on sticks that sony uses? its a simple matter of programming. then you have the fact the balls on sticks sony tech uses old eye toy ps3 camera tech, natal uses much more up to date camera tech.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

Until someone explains to me how this will function with any genre other than party this will be my standpoint, even Sony's ripoff had more use.

mario_gamer

Just read that article and i find it hard to believe anyone would play a game like that, that is not true implementation.

Endless possibilities, it's simple to grasp, you can control anything with your body, make your hand your psitol.... I guess people lack creativity and imagination and can't see the use of this technology even though it's so apparent.

I could see them make a shooter, the only problem I see is figuring out movement.

shooting - pulling your finger like it's on a trigger.

grenade- throw

aiming- raising your hands up like your lifting to look through a scope.

reloading- droping your hands to your sides.

ducking for cover.

[QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] IGN has an interview where they are playing burnout with it. So your topic is failure.nmaharg

Just read that article and i find it hard to believe anyone would play a game like that, that is not true implementation.

Walking forward to go faster, why can i not see that catching on, and there is not enough space in my room, to use this device, while i can use the excessive 'waggle' controller fine.

voice recognition

face recognition

full body motion capture

the voice recognition alone could be used in so many ways in so many game. imagine a rpg where you cast spell simply by voice no need for clunky menus. or you can call plays in a sports game. sooo many possiblities and thats just one thing it does.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

Just read that article and i find it hard to believe anyone would play a game like that, that is not true implementation.

mario_gamer

Walking forward to go faster, why can i not see that catching on, and there is not enough space in my room, to use this device, while i can use the excessive 'waggle' controller fine.

I could see them make a shooter, the only problem I see is figuring out movement.

shooting - pulling your finger like it's on a trigger.

grenade- throw

aiming- raising your hands up like your lifting to look through a scope.

reloading- droping your hands to your sides.

ducking for cover.

deangallop

There is no way this would be accurate enough for that scope idea, and as you say, movement will be an issue, unless they bring out a gun prop or something it is never going to work.

[QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Its working with a game that wasn't even developed with the camera in mind. You're just trying to make excuses. That is impressive.nmaharg

Walking forward to go faster, why can i not see that catching on, and there is not enough space in my room, to use this device, while i can use the excessive 'waggle' controller fine.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

Walking forward to go faster, why can i not see that catching on, and there is not enough space in my room, to use this device, while i can use the excessive 'waggle' controller fine.

mario_gamer

Endless possibilities, it's simple to grasp, you can control anything with your body, make your hand your psitol.... I guess people lack creativity and imagination and can't see the use of this technology even though it's so apparent.

themyth01

[QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Doesn't support your original post. Again you're simply making excuses for being WRONG.nmaharg

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="mario_gamer"]It is not truly working untill it has at least broken even with a joystick and buttons, walking forward to go is not a functioning racing game.

mario_gamer

dont ignore my post OP admit the voice recognition has potential :cry:darkmagician06

the burnout stuff would be as bad as using the sixaxis to play a racing game.. ala motorstorm...thetruespin

[QUOTE="darkmagician06"]dont ignore my post OP admit the voice recognition has potential :cry:mario_gamer

you do know voice recognition's been around for ages right.....e.g. check out End War it's not exactly cutting edge tech

[QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

[QUOTE="darkmagician06"]dont ignore my post OP admit the voice recognition has potential :cry:cheapness1

you do know voice recognition's been around for ages right.....e.g. check out End War it's not exactly cutting edge tech

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

Endless possibilities, it's simple to grasp, you can control anything with your body, make your hand your psitol.... I guess people lack creativity and imagination and can't see the use of this technology even though it's so apparent.

mario_gamer

natal is extremely limited. How do you play an adventure game with no buttons or directional movement controls? They showed a racing game with gestures as well as a skateboard game, but I think if you break it down they feel like great experiences but the depth is ripped from them to accomplish this. Wiisports was a great game and natal can be like it. Visceral but shallowGunSmith1_basic

For a FPS maybe you can use both body motion and the 360 controller. Think about it. Maybe, nah?123Dan123

thing is they wanna get rid of the controller

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]the burnout stuff would be as bad as using the sixaxis to play a racing game.. ala motorstorm...mario_gamer

[QUOTE="mario_gamer"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]the burnout stuff would be as bad as using the sixaxis to play a racing game.. ala motorstorm...bingbaocao

that's one game....wot about e.g. Halo? Ninja Gaiden? Bioshock?

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="mario_gamer"]This is my point, it might even be worse. *shudders*

cheapness1

that's one game....wot about e.g. Halo? Ninja Gaiden? Bioshock?

how the hell did sony rip them off? i really doubt they developed their motion controler over night (plus it already has the ps3 eye camera. so really it just introduced the motion controller)

[QUOTE="123Dan123"]For a FPS maybe you can use both body motion and the 360 controller. Think about it. Maybe, nah?cheapness1

thing is they wanna get rid of the controller

[QUOTE="cheapness1"]

[QUOTE="123Dan123"]For a FPS maybe you can use both body motion and the 360 controller. Think about it. Maybe, nah?123Dan123

thing is they wanna get rid of the controller

yar it "gets in the way" of the experience...

Alot of people in here dont have any imagination.Didnt you see how that lady was able to interact with the AI?Voice and facial recognition?Full body movement recognition and control?No,no funtionality there:roll:

[QUOTE="cheapness1"]

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] according to IGN the game controls work "surprisingly well" on burnoutbingbaocao

that's one game....wot about e.g. Halo? Ninja Gaiden? Bioshock?

I meant how would they get those types of games to work via natal?

[QUOTE="123Dan123"][QUOTE="cheapness1"]

thing is they wanna get rid of the controller

yar it "gets in the way" of the experience...

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"][QUOTE="cheapness1"]

that's one game....wot about e.g. Halo? Ninja Gaiden? Bioshock?

cheapness1

I meant how would they get those types of games to work via natal?

I still would rather use the perfection that is the Xbox 360 controller & as long as they are making games without the Natal crap then I'm alright. However, if they start implementing it into all games then I'll being gaming elsewhere, always got my trusty PC.

Has anyone received word from Microsoft as to whether or not the Natal will be implemented this generation or next generation?

As for needing buttons or some kind of movement that only the hands can do, perhaps a new kind of control system, strapped to the wrist or the hand that lets you reach buttons or whatever with flicks of the fingers.

I still would rather use the perfection that is the Xbox 360 controller & as long as they are making games without the Natal crap then I'm alright. However, if they start implementing it into all games then I'll being gaming elsewhere, always got my trusty PC.

shawn7324

Alot of people in here dont have any imagination.Didnt you see how that lady was able to interact with the AI?Voice and facial recognition?Full body movement recognition and control?No,no funtionality there:roll:

xgraderx

[QUOTE="cheapness1"]

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] it's also a game that was launched last year before we even knew natal existedbingbaocao

I meant how would they get those types of games to work via natal?

yea it could be used in theory but I really don't think its the saving grace some people are making it out to be, its just one solution to a problem all three companies are tackling