Microsofts dumb idea that Sony copied that Nintendo avoided.

Here's one thing I want next gen.

ONE FRIGGIN SKU! Thats it. ONE!

That is all.

Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.martin_f

[QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.Mandingo101

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.jlh47

Nope, you've got that backwards, Sony has always succeeded at doing what others do but doing it better.

the first nes had two SKU

one with ROB the robot

one without

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.Bread_or_Decide

Nope, you've got that backwards, Sony has always succeeded at doing what others do but doing it better.

I like the idea; however, I think their choice in SKU's was poorly made. The HDD should have been standard. The Premium should have included an HD-DVD player/drive, and the Core should have been the same as the current Premium.project343

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.jlh47

Nope, you've got that backwards, Sony has always succeeded at doing what others do but doing it better.

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.nyoroism

Nope, you've got that backwards, Sony has always succeeded at doing what others do but doing it better.

[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.jlh47

the first nes had two SKU

one with ROB the robot

one without

HarlockJC

ROB was much later on and those would be bundles. the actual NES was the same

the first nes had two SKU

one with ROB the robot

one without

HarlockJC

But it would still be same NES.

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.Bread_or_Decide

Nope, you've got that backwards, Sony has always succeeded at doing what others do but doing it better.

Better is an opinion, copying is a fact there are laws stating copyight. Your statement makes no sense.

Epic fail.

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.Mandingo101

since we're on the topic of copying...

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.shoeman12

since we're on the topic of copying...

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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.hongkingkong

Nope, you've got that backwards, Sony has always succeeded at doing what others do but doing it better.

Better is an opinion, copying is a fact there are laws stating copyight. Your statement makes no sense.

Epic fail.

You have an elementary way of looking at technology don't you? Copying is not a fact. Certain features become standard. Their are certain features you cannot copy right, like a hard drive for example, you can't sue someone else for adding a hard drive to their product as well. Pepsi can't sue Coke, sure they both make cola, but not with the same ingredients, but its the same basic product. Many of todays cell phones copy features that other models have in order to compete in the market. This is a very common business practice, and copyrights are reserved for very specific aspects of a product such as name, ingredients, and how products are put together in certain ways.

So it is you that makes zero sense. My statement stands, Sony keeps up in the market by adding features they see on other consoles. They often excel where others failed. Dual shock for example. Two analog sticks instead of one. Thats one good example.

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yeah kind of like motion? microsoft is the king of taking things and making them better. sony is the king of outright stealing the product and making it crap.

Mandingo101

since we're on the topic of copying...

i wasn't trying to prove ms innovates, in fact i think nintendo innovates i was just trying to prove that sony can't think for itself.

Choices. You don't know what to pick.blizzvalve

They said it "confuses the consumer".

[QUOTE="blizzvalve"]Choices. You don't know what to pick.nyoroism

They said it "confuses the consumer".

Sony was right.

They'll regret not listening to themselves.

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[QUOTE="blizzvalve"]Choices. You don't know what to pick.Bread_or_Decide

They said it "confuses the consumer".

Sony was right.

They'll regret not listening to themselves.

i wasn't trying to prove ms innovates, in fact i think nintendo innovates i was just trying to prove that sony can't think for itself.

shoeman12

Re: Bread_or_Decide

There are laws against blatent copying of other people's products. And unwritten laws state that if a product comes out after another product with practically the same design it is a lame imitation. The dualshock is an example of what you said, making things better with old ideas. But sony don't just take "inspiration" from nintendo, they take their philosophy from them. Sony are experienced enough now to know better and get some of their own ideas, all they seem to do is watch the old boys nintendo do what they do best and ride on their bandwagons.

Sony knew they couldn't tap into the same innovative gold mine of the wii, that crossed gaming boundries that until recently were set in stone that old and middle-aged people can't play games. Instead, sony swapped roles with Microsoft and went for the bigger, more powerful machine that comes out later with less games and basically telling people in their adverts that "This is Living" and that you need a £400 BBQ Blu-Ray player. While copying from nintendo in any other way they can (eg. motion thingy magig that is lame).

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[QUOTE="blizzvalve"]Choices. You don't know what to pick.Bread_or_Decide

They said it "confuses the consumer".

Sony was right.

They'll regret not listening to themselves.

Maybe they should regret talking so much crap. I doubt if even they believe anything they say.

Remember, rumble was also supposed to be obsolete, now all of a sudden it isn't. BC was important now it isn't...

Not that I believe any of the talking heads from these companies, but really, Sony has done a terrible job of keeping it's foot out of it's mouth.

Re: Bread_or_Decide

There are laws against blatent copying of other people's products. And unwritten laws state that if a product comes out after another product with practically the same design it is a lame imitation. The dualshock is an example of what you said, making things better with old ideas. But sony don't just take "inspiration" from nintendo, they take their philosophy from them. Sony are experienced enough now to know better and get some of their own ideas, all they seem to do is watch the old boys nintendo do what they do best and ride on their bandwagons.

Sony knew they couldn't tap into the same innovative gold mine of the wii, that crossed gaming boundries that until recently were set in stone that old and middle-aged people can't play games. Instead, sony swapped roles with Microsoft and went for the bigger, more powerful machine that comes out later with less games and basically telling people in their adverts that "This is Living" and that you need a £400 BBQ Blu-Ray player. While copying from nintendo in any other way they can (eg. motion thingy magig that is lame).

hongkingkong

Name me one lawsuit Nintendo has brought against Sony for copyright infringement.

I'll tell you a story, Bomar Instruments invented the calculator. First company to do it. Texas Instruments copied them and came out with their own calculator, usurped Bomar and mademillions. Improved on their innovation.

Thats just how business works.

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the first nes had two SKU

one with ROB the robot

one without

Ontain

ROB was much later on and those would be bundles. the actual NES was the same

ROB debuted with the NES release in 1985. I know, I got one that Christmas with Gyromite. Eventually would get tired of waiting on that piece of crap and just open the gates yourself with the second controller.

[QUOTE="martin_f"]Lol SONY copied Lol we hear that too often, I agree silly move from Microsoft.Mandingo101

Yep. PS3 comes out with HDMI, large HDD, WiFI, and BR DVD player. Then MS makes an Elite with large HDD and HDMI.Then they make all 360's with HDMI. Now they're making a 360 with WiFi and an HD DVD player.