Microsoft's GDC (pre/ post GDC impressions)

PRE GDC IMPRESSIONS for MS

HD DVD, RROD, HD DVD, RROD, RROD, RROD

POST GDC IMPRESSIONS for MS

XNA, FABLE 2, APB, and NINJA GAIDEN 2 GAMEPLAY BLOWout, GEARS 2 tech vid, and TOO HUMAN

((MS is the lady in the middle wearing glasses, Sony is receiving the biz, while PC/ NINTENDO are off on the side viewing the awesomeness))

Nice pics :PEuroMafia

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

mouthpeace01

Because truth sucks for people attached to blind brand loyality?

Whats XNA and how does it effect gaming?bigevil_rashek

Development tools,
they showed for instance, with Vista Premium, you could play all 360 games developed with XNA on your pc, with a moderate rig too, they were getting 60fps out of Mass Effect.
It also allows indies to release games on it (after paying a large fee to sign up),
so, you could literally see what john-do made in his parent's basemint!

[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

Andrew_Xavier

Because truth sucks for people attached to blind brand loyality?

Oh btw, It was a flop for me because there wasn't any Banjo.

Before GDC:

Wasn't sure whether or not to get Ninja Gaiden 2 and Fable 2

After GDC:

Getting Ninja Gaiden 2 and Fable 2 for sure. But there was no Banjo :'(

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

Andrew_Xavier

Because truth sucks for people attached to blind brand loyality?

[QUOTE="bigevil_rashek"]Whats XNA and how does it effect gaming?Andrew_Xavier

Development tools,
they showed for instance, with Vista Premium, you could play all 360 games developed with XNA on your pc, with a moderate rig too, they were getting 60fps out of Mass Effect.
It also allows indies to release games on it (after paying a large fee to sign up),
so, you could literally see what john-do made in his parent's basemint!

that was actually a rumor which turned out not be true

Whats XNA and how does it effect gaming?bigevil_rashek

link

[QUOTE="bigevil_rashek"]Whats XNA and how does it effect gaming?Andrew_Xavier

Development tools,
they showed for instance, with Vista Premium, you could play all 360 games developed with XNA on your pc, with a moderate rig too, they were getting 60fps out of Mass Effect.
It also allows indies to release games on it (after paying a large fee to sign up),
so, you could literally see what john-do made in his parent's basemint!

Its pretty sad that you actually belived it.

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

excelR83

I agree. They announced the games everyone knew were coming and created a lot of hype with their fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just don't see why people are so excited about it. The 360 fanboys talk about the 08 lineup as if it were the greatest thing since slice bread.

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

excelR83

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

mouthpeace01

Right, it's GDC, a conference for developers. So what's MS doing making all these game announcements?

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

Zhengi

I agree. They announced the games everyone knew were coming and created a lot of hype with their fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just don't see why people are so excited about it. The 360 fanboys talk about the 08 lineup as if it were the greatest thing since slice bread.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

Zhengi

I agree. They announced the games everyone knew were coming and created a lot of hype with their fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just don't see why people are so excited about it. The 360 fanboys talk about the 08 lineup as if it were the greatest thing since slice bread.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

Aljosa23

I agree. They announced the games everyone knew were coming and created a lot of hype with their fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just don't see why people are so excited about it. The 360 fanboys talk about the 08 lineup as if it were the greatest thing since slice bread.

Well, I admit I haven't been on the board as much lately so I don't know who else has hyped it, but from what I have seen, the hype machine for stuff we already knew about is in full swing, much like last year when MS proclaimed the holiday line up as the best ever (I had to lol at that statement) and so many people ran with it.

[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"]

Zhengi

Right, it's GDC, a conference for developers. So what's MS doing making all these game announcements?

And its not as if MS didnt announce a tool kit for indie developers. Oh wait, they did.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="mouthpeace01"]

whocares4peace

Right, it's GDC, a conference for developers. So what's MS doing making all these game announcements?

And its not as if MS didnt announce a tool kit for indie developers. Oh wait, they did.

And I thought Sony's announcements at GDC last year were just as ridiculous as MS' this year. In fact, I think Nintendo was also pathetic in announcing Mario Kart at GDC. There shouldn't be game announcements period at GDC since it's really not the place to hype them. Of course, this is all imo.

As for XNA, very good for them since that's the point. Now take out the game announcements since this isn't E3.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

I think they needed a lot more from that conference than they gave.

All they did was announce a bunch of games that everyone already knew about, in a manner that made them sound new and fresh, yet somehow all the MS fanboys got all excited and made posts like "Oh yeah, MS owned that GDC! Whoo Fable 2! The first one sucked, but somehow this one will be better!"

They needed an announcement like HALO 4 OMG FINAL FANTASY ON 360 OMG MGS 4 360 EXCLUSIVE SONY CAUGHT IN BED WITH YOUR MAMA to really do some damage. Instead they told us about a lot of games we already knew about, but in a really excited voice. "We are pleased to announce... TOO HUMAN OH MY GOD WOW LOOK AT THIS! FABLE 2 OMG WHO SAW THIS COMING?!? NINJA GAIDEN 2 OH MY GOD WE REALLY WENT THERE!!!! GEARS 2?!?! SURPRISED THAT A MULTIMILLION SELLER IS GETTING A SEQUEL!??!! US TOO!!!!!!!!!"

i don't think they told us one new thing, yet their hype machine managed to get the fanboys all fired up. That's good work.

Zhengi

I agree. They announced the games everyone knew were coming and created a lot of hype with their fanbase. Not that it's a bad thing, but I just don't see why people are so excited about it. The 360 fanboys talk about the 08 lineup as if it were the greatest thing since slice bread.

Well, I admit I haven't been on the board as much lately so I don't know who else has hyped it, but from what I have seen, the hype machine for stuff we already knew about is in full swing, much like last year when MS proclaimed the holiday line up as the best ever (I had to lol at that statement) and so many people ran with it.

[QUOTE="bigevil_rashek"]Whats XNA and how does it effect gaming?Andrew_Xavier

Development tools,
they showed for instance, with Vista Premium, you could play all 360 games developed with XNA on your pc, with a moderate rig too, they were getting 60fps out of Mass Effect.
It also allows indies to release games on it (after paying a large fee to sign up),
so, you could literally see what john-do made in his parent's basemint!

That was a rumor and never happened at GDC and it was a joke topic made by a cow.

So XNA is development tools?

M$ killed it in GDC and delivered the goods. They stepped up and owned the show while the other game companies just lingered around. Good job M$, you showed your products and showed the exact dates and months these products will release and crush sales. Jump in.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="bigevil_rashek"]Whats XNA and how does it effect gaming?whocares4peace

Development tools,
they showed for instance, with Vista Premium, you could play all 360 games developed with XNA on your pc, with a moderate rig too, they were getting 60fps out of Mass Effect.
It also allows indies to release games on it (after paying a large fee to sign up),
so, you could literally see what john-do made in his parent's basemint!

Its pretty sad that you actually belived it.

Maybe I just really really wanted to beleive, I mean, that would kick so much ass.

...Or maybe I owned myself harder than a hooker in las vegas.....

Either way, I'm going to go sulk in a corner :cry:

(to mods: if hooker in las vegas is considered offensive, I totally ment rugby hooker, it's a position between the two props in the scrum that hooks the ball back with his/her feet, also tends to toss the ball in during line outs...yup...totally ment that...not offensive, please don't mod me again :cry: )

M$ killed it in GDC and delivered the goods. They stepped up and owned the show while the other game companies just lingered around. Good job M$, you showed your products and showed the exact dates and months these products will release and crush sales. Jump in.

ReverseCycology

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

M$ killed it in GDC and delivered the goods. They stepped up and owned the show while the other game companies just lingered around. Good job M$, you showed your products and showed the exact dates and months these products will release and crush sales. Jump in.

Tiefster

[QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

Andrew_Xavier

Because truth sucks for people attached to blind brand loyality?

And you sir win the award for fanboy of the day, high five

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="mouthpeace01"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

I think they did great!
They had 2 consoles die of their most common problems,
they hyped a game without showing any actual footage, then showed footage, then said "oh yeah, this footage isn't from the game we're up here hyping.
They gave a release date for said game, that does not even have any gameplay footage yet,
they got a developer who's lied for every single one of his games up there, and he got people excited again,
AND, they managed to squeeze in a few arcade games live on gamespot, the first of which looked like parappa the rappa,
way to go M$!!!!

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Because truth sucks for people attached to blind brand loyality?

And you sir win the award for fanboy of the day, high five

In all honesty, Fanboy of the week seems more appropriate.

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="bigevil_rashek"]Whats XNA and how does it effect gaming?bigevil_rashek

Development tools,
they showed for instance, with Vista Premium, you could play all 360 games developed with XNA on your pc, with a moderate rig too, they were getting 60fps out of Mass Effect.
It also allows indies to release games on it (after paying a large fee to sign up),
so, you could literally see what john-do made in his parent's basemint!

That was a rumor and never happened at GDC and it was a joke topic made by a cow.

So XNA is development tools?

Yes you can DL XNA for free and make any game you want (on the PC). It includes a complete suit of API's and source code for several example games. If you want to release a game on the 360 you buy a creators club subscription (free for college students) and other creators club members vote on the quality of your game. After it reaches a certain threashold it will be released on XBLA.

Pre E3 impressions = looking forward to Ninja Gaiden2

Pist E3 impressions = looking forward to Ninja Gaiden2 and fable 2

APB is what impressed everyone at the show, so I'd say MS had quite a show. Not to mention we received release dates for Gears of War 2 and Ninja Gaiden 2. Then, the inclusion of Community Games for XNA titles didn't hurt. :) What a show. :)BioShockOwnz

I agree APB is looking pretty good. I had little to no interest when I thought it was going to end up like this:

but now its pretty interesting looking like this: