Microsoft's victory, is it inevitable?

The dev kits are windows-like so devs are have NO problem making games for their consoles. Project Natal is better than ANYTHING the Wii can do. MS is taking Exclusives left and right from Sony. Sony is having financial troubles. The Wii's appeal was wearing off BEFORE the announcment of Project Natal. Xbl has superior online gaming in the CONSOLE arena.Michael324

The dev kits are windows-like so devs are have NO problem making games for their consoles. Project Natal is better than ANYTHING the Wii can do. MS is taking Exclusives left and right from Sony. Sony is having financial troubles. The Wii's appeal was wearing off BEFORE the announcment of Project Natal. Xbl has superior online gaming in the CONSOLE arena.Michael324

How is it that you can post so many words without a single one of them being true? Tell us, please.

You are over estimating.

The PS3 is still a great machine, there is a very solid library developing, still lots of brand value and an inevitable price drop. Sony has cratered from last gen but it has stabilized now and won't be disappearing.

Wii is still unstoppable. They are going to be dropping some megaton games soon that will sell like hotcakes and motion plus will easily keep them in the game.

360 has some great games coming up. Natal looks interesting, but you are talking 2 years before you have much of a library built for its use. MS will continue to be a solid player and in the game, battling it out with Sony over the half of the market the Wii doesn't have.

Where the generation ends isn't going to be much different from where we are now.

Joke thread?

You are over estimating.

The PS3 is still a great machine, there is a very solid library developing, still lots of brand value and an inevitable price drop. Sony has cratered from last gen but it has stabilized now and won't be disappearing.

Wii is still unstoppable. They are going to be dropping some megaton games soon that will sell like hotcakes and motion plus will easily keep them in the game.

360 has some great games coming up. Natal looks interesting, but you are talking 2 years before you have much of a library built for its use. MS will continue to be a solid player and in the game, battling it out with Sony over the half of the market the Wii doesn't have.

Where the generation ends isn't going to be much different from where we are now.

What victory? Victory for second place I presume.siLVURcross

hey idiot heres a thought.SOny is beating microsoft in sales. NIntendo has already won......xbox 360 sucks.What more can i say?sagax03

The dev kits are windows-like so devs are have NO problem making games for their consoles. Project Natal is better than ANYTHING the Wii can do. MS is taking Exclusives left and right from Sony. Sony is having financial troubles. The Wii's appeal was wearing off BEFORE the announcment of Project Natal. Xbl has superior online gaming in the CONSOLE arena.Michael324

Why the hell does it matter??? At the end of the day all three consoles have great titles available and all have something to offer. I would absoloutley hate it if there was only one format for gaming, it would take away the competition and prices would end up sky rocketing because there would be no other options.

The 360 is definatley an excellent machine with some top quality titles but then the PS3 has got it's own share of exclusives and a great range of games. I don't own a Wii but again it has some unique and excellent titles though I do think the Wii is aimed at a different market to the PS3 and the 360.

I really can't understand people who only support one system, it just makes no sense I mean ok if you can only afford one and you have to decide then I suppose it comes down to which system you feel will best cater fot you but even then there is no need to rubbish the other machines.

Anyway if this new OnLive thing really works then I think could erradicate the need for games consoles completely.

The dev kits are windows-like so devs are have NO problem making games for their consoles.

Project Natal is better than ANYTHING the Wii can do.

MS is taking Exclusives left and right from Sony.

Sony is having financial troubles.

The Wii's appeal was wearing off BEFORE the announcment of Project Natal.

Xbl has superior online gaming in the CONSOLE arena.Michael324

Yet E3 should that devs still have interest in making exclusive games for Sony and Nintendo.

I agree, unreleased tech that is currently having problems responded to skin pigment is far better than what Nintnedo has to offer.

True enough..last year, but even then, it still hasn't propelled the 360 to first place.

True, but how does that explain why the 360 is in second instead of first?

I guess that explains why the Wii has still been outselling the 360, even with the arcade $50 cheaper.

Last gen and this gen has both proven that online is the key factor to winning.

[QUOTE="Michael324"]The dev kits are windows-like so devs are have NO problem making games for their consoles. Project Natal is better than ANYTHING the Wii can do. MS is taking Exclusives left and right from Sony. Sony is having financial troubles. The Wii's appeal was wearing off BEFORE the announcment of Project Natal. Xbl has superior online gaming in the CONSOLE arena.Naturalselectio

Lemmings keep dreaming Wii is number 1 this generation no matter what you do and 360 wont last very long in 2nd position the shiny black reaper will throw them in last place sooner or later.

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You are over estimating.

The PS3 is still a great machine, there is a very solid library developing, still lots of brand value and an inevitable price drop. Sony has cratered from last gen but it has stabilized now and won't be disappearing.

Wii is still unstoppable. They are going to be dropping some megaton games soon that will sell like hotcakes and motion plus will easily keep them in the game.

360 has some great games coming up. Natal looks interesting, but you are talking 2 years before you have much of a library built for its use. MS will continue to be a solid player and in the game, battling it out with Sony over the half of the market the Wii doesn't have.

Where the generation ends isn't going to be much different from where we are now.

Michael324

Well if it doesn't have to be this generation, then what is the point? Really, where do you draw the line? Is it next next gen or next next next gen?

I'll tell you, if there is no determined timeframe...just loosey goosey whenever....then forget MS, or Sony or the big N. It'll be a Chinese company for sure...or maybe an Indian company, since the scale of those two countries createsa certain inevitability for all businesses.

I don't see it happening as long as Sony and Nintendo stick around to be honest. They will still do well, of course but I don't ever see them winning.Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="Naturalselectio"][QUOTE="Michael324"]The dev kits are windows-like so devs are have NO problem making games for their consoles. Project Natal is better than ANYTHING the Wii can do. MS is taking Exclusives left and right from Sony. Sony is having financial troubles. The Wii's appeal was wearing off BEFORE the announcment of Project Natal. Xbl has superior online gaming in the CONSOLE arena.Michael324

You will eat those words buy the end of this Gen TC. We have five more years and Sony will be number one even surpassing Nintendo.Mark my words MS will finish dead last were it belongs.djsifer01

You just listed all of the reasons why MS is not going to be ahead. Like PC, taking exclusives (cant think of anything on their own), and if Sony goes down ( no more exclusives for ms to take).

You just listed all of the reasons why MS is not going to be ahead. Like PC, taking exclusives (cant think of anything on their own), and if Sony goes down ( no more exclusives for ms to take).

LOXO7

You just listed all of the reasons why MS is not going to be ahead. Like PC, taking exclusives (cant think of anything on their own), and if Sony goes down ( no more exclusives for ms to take).

LOXO7

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You just listed all of the reasons why MS is not going to be ahead. Like PC, taking exclusives (cant think of anything on their own), and if Sony goes down ( no more exclusives for ms to take).

Michael324

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]You will eat those words buy the end of this Gen TC. We have five more years and Sony will be number one even surpassing Nintendo.Mark my words MS will finish dead last were it belongs.Dead-Memories

MS makes more money every minute than what Sony or Nintendo make in a day. They have a lot of money to throw around, which is why I see MS dominating in the future.123Dan123

[QUOTE="123Dan123"]MS makes more money every minute than what Sony or Nintendo make in a day. They have a lot of money to throw around, which is why I see MS dominating in the future.LOXO7

[QUOTE="123Dan123"]MS makes more money every minute than what Sony or Nintendo make in a day. They have a lot of money to throw around, which is why I see MS dominating in the future.LOXO7

In that case, watch out for Sony.... and Microsoft has already put sooooo much money into their gaming division that I don't see them stopping it any time soon, even if it does stagnate for a while.

Obviously you're missing the 50 million wiis sold to the 360s 30. There is no way the 360 will suddenly get enough sales to beat the wii. Also you're over rating natal WAY too much. The wii motion plus is a lot better than natal because it doesn't have near and many bugs and glitches, and it also doesn't have as much lag.

What victory? Victory for second place I presume.siLVURcross

this.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

You are over estimating.

The PS3 is still a great machine, there is a very solid library developing, still lots of brand value and an inevitable price drop. Sony has cratered from last gen but it has stabilized now and won't be disappearing.

Wii is still unstoppable. They are going to be dropping some megaton games soon that will sell like hotcakes and motion plus will easily keep them in the game.

360 has some great games coming up. Natal looks interesting, but you are talking 2 years before you have much of a library built for its use. MS will continue to be a solid player and in the game, battling it out with Sony over the half of the market the Wii doesn't have.

Where the generation ends isn't going to be much different from where we are now.

Michael324

To be honest I think all three will have ups and downs but all will eventually have a good run this gen. But "victory" can probably be described in total hardware and software sales and scores of games.

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[QUOTE="123Dan123"]MS makes more money every minute than what Sony or Nintendo make in a day. They have a lot of money to throw around, which is why I see MS dominating in the future.Z0MBIES

In that case, watch out for Sony.... and Microsoft has already put sooooo much money into their gaming division that I don't see them stopping it any time soon, even if it does stagnate for a while.

You will eat those words buy the end of this Gen TC. We have five more years and Sony will be number one even surpassing Nintendo.Mark my words MS will finish dead last were it belongs.djsifer01

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"] If their gaming market isnt making profit then them or anyone can drop out. Confusing MS as the whole company with what it does via gaming is a mistake.

LOXO7

In that case, watch out for Sony.... and Microsoft has already put sooooo much money into their gaming division that I don't see them stopping it any time soon, even if it does stagnate for a while.

Although I don't see any of the big three going down, I mentioned Sony because, for a long time (it seems the tide might be changing for them) they have been losing money from their gaming division, and a lot of it, while Microsoft has been seing some good profits recently, which tells the higherups that they can make a good deal of money from it even though it seems Microsoft might start to be losing a little from their gaming division. I didn't say that Microsoft doesn't know the term cutting their losses either, I said they have already invested a lot of money into, which makes them a lot more likely to stay in the market if they hadn't invested as much.

I don't see this an inevitable. And I hope it's not.To dateMS's sole contribution to gaming has been: Halo, Xbox Live, paying for timed exclusivity.Of courseI'm sure I'm leaving good stuff out but they haven't really advanced gaming in any meaninful way.

While I prefer PS3 hardware and games, it's clear that they've pantsed Sony from a business perspective and are reaping the royalties. I don't see them going away and I think they start next generation on equal footing. I just see Nintendo and Sony going further to deliver great games and really sticking their neck out. MS seems content to soak up 3rd party support and pay for timed exclusive content. Seems lazy to me. For gaming sake I hope that we always have some competition to keeping pushing the marker.

- Mike D.

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]You will eat those words buy the end of this Gen TC. We have five more years and Sony will be number one even surpassing Nintendo.Mark my words MS will finish dead last were it belongs.jakehouston88

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]You will eat those words buy the end of this Gen TC. We have five more years and Sony will be number one even surpassing Nintendo.Mark my words MS will finish dead last were it belongs.dsmccracken

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"] Amen, brother. :lol:jakehouston88

So NOW sales matter when the Wii is involved.

:roll:

MS is taking Exclusives left and right from Sony

naah it's mostly the other way around

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