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#1 blackdreamhunk
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http://www.edubourse.com/finance/actualites.php?actu=45639

Grand Theft Auto IV" ignites cocktail of hot PC titles coming exclusively to Games for Windows and Games for Windows - LIVE.

REDMOND, Wash. - Sept. 22, 2008 - Microsoft Corp. celebrates its second anniversary of the Games for Windows initiative this month with the news that the year's biggest blockbuster, "Grand Theft Auto IV" (Rockstar Games), will debut on the PC this November exclusively as a Games for Windows-branded title, joining a growing list of more than 85 top PC games from today's hottest publishers. Liberty City comes to life through a revitalized Games for Windows - LIVE experience, including expanded online matches, cutting-edge DirectX 10 graphics, and new LIVE features such as a redesigned game interface, out-of-game client and marketplace.

"We're incredibly proud of the deep, customizable multiplayer experience that 'Grand Theft Auto IV' offers players," said Sam Houser, founder of Rockstar Games. "As we work toward the release of the PC version, Games for Windows - LIVE affords us the opportunity to seamlessly translate the multiplayer console experience for PC gamers. The service is a natural fit for the platform and we strongly believe it will help in building a strong online community around 'Grand Theft Auto IV' PC."

In addition to "Grand Theft Auto IV," some of the year's most-anticipated titles will take advantage of Games for Windows - LIVE, including "Fallout 3" (Bethesda Softworks LLC), "Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II" (Turbine Inc./THQ Inc.) and "James Bond: Quantum of Solace" (Activision Publishing Inc.).

Games for Windows - LIVE delivers a truly connected experience for PC gamers, letting users enjoy a common Gamertag, Gamerscore, and unified friends list that carries across both supported PC games and the Xbox 360 console, as well as single and multiplayer Achievements, voice chat, text messaging and TruSkill online matchmaking.

"Great Windows-based games like 'Grand Theft Auto IV,' 'Fallout 3' and 'Dawn of War II' are proof that Microsoft is delivering on its promise to provide the best possible PC gaming experience on Windows," said Kevin Unangst, senior global director of Windows gaming at Microsoft. "We are engaged with our community and listen attentively to their needs and concerns. With their input our platform has continued to evolve, and we're proud of the marked improvement the Games for Windows program has brought to PC gaming in its first two years."

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#2 Lidve
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I dont know what to say,Microsoft is double edged sword

On one side we get some great titles and on other its dumbing down pc as platform

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#3 Franko_3
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gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

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#4 Jamex1987
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gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

Franko_3

Well you might as well quit PC gaming because windows live is the future. More and more developers will be using it.

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#5 Franko_3
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[QUOTE="Franko_3"]

gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

Jamex1987

Well you might as well quit PC gaming because windows live is the future. More and more developers will be using it.

bwhahahahaha *gasp* bwhahahaha

Steam, GoG, impulse, d2d...= the futre of pc gaming, not some crappy software made by a company that charge you for everything.

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#6 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

Franko_3

Well you might as well quit PC gaming because windows live is the future. More and more developers will be using it.

bwhahahahaha *gasp* bwhahahaha

Steam, GoG, impulse, d2d...= the futre of pc gaming, not some crappy software made by a company that charge you for everything.

they already made windows live free from what ive heard, because no pc gamer is dumb enough to pay for that

source

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

Franko_3

Well you might as well quit PC gaming because windows live is the future. More and more developers will be using it.

bwhahahahaha *gasp* bwhahahaha

Steam, GoG, impulse, d2d...= the futre of pc gaming, not some crappy software made by a company that charge you for everything.

And yet it's free for you, that sort of puts a big old hole in your point, perhaps you should stop hating it cause it's made by Microsoft and grow up a bit, more to things than a name matey.

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[QUOTE="Franko_3"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

shadow_hosi

Well you might as well quit PC gaming because windows live is the future. More and more developers will be using it.

bwhahahahaha *gasp* bwhahahaha

Steam, GoG, impulse, d2d...= the futre of pc gaming, not some crappy software made by a company that charge you for everything.

they already made windows live free from what ive heard, because no pc gamer is dumb enough to pay for that

source

They made it free because it was flopping. MS has already shown the direction they want to go with online; so I'm not interested. I'll stick with the services that want to keep online gaming free.

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#9 shadow_hosi
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They made it free because it was flopping. MS has already shown the direction they want to go with online; so I'm not interested. I'll stick with the services that want to keep online gaming free.

EmperorSupreme

yup windows life is a ripoff still, that article sais they are gunna do the DLC stuff like xbl (charging for stuff, ect.) that wont work lol.

im gunna stick with Steam and D2D myself

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#10 mr_mozilla
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Flops confirmed. They should give it up already, GFWL has a bad rep among PC gamers as does pretty much everything else Xbox related. I can already guarantee that GTA4 Online will NOT have a strong community nor will it offer a deeply customized multiplayer experience. And GFWL does not offer a unified friends list since only fraction of games support it.

Games for Windows - LIVE affords us the opportunity to seamlessly translate the multiplayer console experience for PC gamers.

blackdreamhunk

Here in lies the problem, it's just that, a console exprience. PC gamers don't want a console exprience, they want a PC experience. The countless of games ported from consoles to PC without major overhaul should be proof enough, they ALL flopped because they weren't designed PC in mind, it is the one thing all PC gamers hate.

And if they expect to tap into some new casual market with GFWL, they'll be sadly mistaken. Those casuals do not have computers to run games like GTA4.

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#11 Lidve
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

Games for Windows - LIVE affords us the opportunity to seamlessly translate the multiplayer console experience for PC gamers.

mr_mozilla

Here in lies the problem, it's just that, a console exprience. PC gamers don't want a console exprience, they want a PC experience.

I cant agree more

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#12 Puckhog04
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I don't mind Windows Live as long as it's free (and it is). I play Gears of War, Shadowrun, and Lost Planet Extreme Colonies on Windows Live. It's far from the future of PC however. Too many independent developers will not support it due to it not being an open online component. It's not too bad though. I borderline like it as long as it's free. :)

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#13 skrat_01
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With what?

A Turkey Slap?

Really now.

They snubbed PC gaming, and now come back in order to push windows as a pc gaming brand name, essentially trying to indirectly sell off more copies of vista.

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Well, I'm encouraged and willing to play along with GFWL.

Steam is great, but I certainly feel no obligation to it, if (IF) something else can come along to favorably match up with it's features, fine by me. The redesigned interface with an out-of-game client + marketplace at least sound like a solid start towards improvement.

Now just as long as GFWL and it's upcoming supporting titles, don't pull any DRM shenanigans --- like you know who.

Give gamers reasons to want to bring their games online with legit versions for some great features, don't force it on them, and don't take away freedoms (e.g. via limited-installs) from honest customers that have been enjoyed for a long time.

yup windows life is a ripoff still, that article sais they are gunna do the DLC stuff like xbl (charging for stuff, ect.) that wont work lol.shadow_hosi

I very quickly looked at that article and didn't read that. If true though, I agree, not good! Although it would depend on the content as well, if it's somewhat "expansion-level" content, then by all means, charge for it.

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#15 omgimba
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Wait.. GTA4 for PC?

What a surprise... I will be equally surprised when Halo comes to the PC.

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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="Franko_3"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

EmperorSupreme

Well you might as well quit PC gaming because windows live is the future. More and more developers will be using it.

bwhahahahaha *gasp* bwhahahaha

Steam, GoG, impulse, d2d...= the futre of pc gaming, not some crappy software made by a company that charge you for everything.

they already made windows live free from what ive heard, because no pc gamer is dumb enough to pay for that

source

They made it free because it was flopping. MS has already shown the direction they want to go with online; so I'm not interested. I'll stick with the services that want to keep online gaming free.



dude, it wasnt flopping...

it was freaking flip-flopping like a damn fish gasping for some water lying a blacktop on a 100 degree day
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="Franko_3"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

gta IV= gfw live= me not buy

I wonder if these 3 gfwl will also failed sale-wise like all the other gfwl so far

EmperorSupreme

Well you might as well quit PC gaming because windows live is the future. More and more developers will be using it.

bwhahahahaha *gasp* bwhahahaha

Steam, GoG, impulse, d2d...= the futre of pc gaming, not some crappy software made by a company that charge you for everything.

they already made windows live free from what ive heard, because no pc gamer is dumb enough to pay for that

source

They made it free because it was flopping. MS has already shown the direction they want to go with online; so I'm not interested. I'll stick with the services that want to keep online gaming free.

They made it free because no PC gamer is dumb enough to pay for that. PC gaming has always been free (excluding MMO's) and no PC gamer (including myself) was willing to pay. Hence, they made it free.

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#18 R4gn4r0k
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They should celebrate by not closing down ensemble studios ! :shock:
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Any one even care about GTA4 being GFWL? The game had ok multiplayer, the draw is single player.
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Wasn't the GTA 4 sales purely hype driven and most people got bored of the game due to repetition? Microsoft is boasting about this coming to PC?

It's GOW all over again.

As for the "bringing console experience to PC" comment, how can a company that has worked with PC gaming considerably longer than consoles be so thick?

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http://www.edubourse.com/finance/actualites.php?actu=45639

Grand Theft Auto IV" ignites cocktail of hot PC titles coming exclusively to Games for Windows and Games for Windows - LIVE.

Grand Theft Auto IV

Fallout 3

James Bond: Quantum of Solace

blackdreamhunk

"exclusively"

Gotta love Microsoft :lol:

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Gears of War on the PC is enough reason for me to hate GFW Live.

Never again, I already have GTAIV for the PS3, but I was thinking for splashing some money on this game to see how it would work out. No thanks.

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#23 elbow2k
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I'm glad that Farcry 2 and Call of Duty: World at War aren't stinking it up by going to GFW-LIVE.

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"We're incredibly proud of the deep, customizable multiplayer experience that 'Grand Theft Auto IV' offers players," said Sam Houser, founder of Rockstar Games. "As we work toward the release of the PC version, Games for Windows - LIVE affords us the opportunity to seamlessly translate the multiplayer console experience for PC gamers. The service is a natural fit for the platform and we strongly believe it will help in building a strong online community around 'Grand Theft Auto IV' PC."

In addition to "Grand Theft Auto IV," some of the year's most-anticipated titles will take advantage of Games for Windows - LIVE, including "Fallout 3" (Bethesda Softworks LLC), "Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II" (Turbine Inc./THQ Inc.) and "James Bond: Quantum of Solace" (Activision Publishing Inc.).

blackdreamhunk

No! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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#25 mo0ksi
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I don't like that Relic decided to use GFW Live for DoW2.

Looks like I'll be forced to use it this time.

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#26 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I don't like that Relic decided to use GFW Live for DoW2.

Looks like I'll be forced to use it this time.

mo0ksi

It will be free.. And if you have ever played the original DoW multiplayer, you would see this as a blessing instead of them using the PoS Gamespy system again.. Man that system was AWFULLLL..

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#27 dgroundwater
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Wait.. GTA4 for PC?

What a surprise... I will be equally surprised when Halo comes to the PC.

omgimba

:| ... :( I hope you're kidding.

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multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

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#29 Franko_3
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multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

mephisto_11

p2p mp, gfwl erased save game in geow, ads, need to pay for theme...

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#30 Deihmos
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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

Franko_3

p2p mp, gfwl erased save game in geow, ads, need to pay for theme...

Maybe because GoW was a crappy port by people can fly? I don't see how that has anything to do with the service.

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ITT Elitist Hermits
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#32 Pinkyimp
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multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

mephisto_11

GFWL is just a horrible app..it work like crap on PC..and its such a pain to use...one of the worst additions to PC gaming

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#33 JangoWuzHere
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multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

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Its still a horrible sevice.

really I would do without this service. Its built like a consle interface which is at this point in PC gameing SAD really really SAD.

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#34 mephisto_11
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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

Pinkyimp

GFWL is just a horrible app..it work like crap on PC..and its such a pain to use...one of the worst additions to PC gaming

lol i must be the only one that likes the interface. i like it more than steam tbh. the achievements are a great bonus

it may be p2p but i get really good ping on gears pc (50-100) compared to gears 360 (200-300)

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#35 M337ING
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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

Franko_3

p2p mp, gfwl erased save game in geow, ads, need to pay for theme...

Misconception, devs can use dedicated servers if they want to. Heck, even Halo 2 has them.

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#36 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

mephisto_11

GFWL is just a horrible app..it work like crap on PC..and its such a pain to use...one of the worst additions to PC gaming

lol i must be the only one that likes the interface. i like it more than steam tbh. the achievements are a great bonus

it may be p2p but i get really good ping on gears pc (50-100) compared to gears 360 (200-300)

I really don't like Steam's interface.

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#37 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

mephisto_11

GFWL is just a horrible app..it work like crap on PC..and its such a pain to use...one of the worst additions to PC gaming

lol i must be the only one that likes the interface. i like it more than steam tbh. the achievements are a great bonus

it may be p2p but i get really good ping on gears pc (50-100) compared to gears 360 (200-300)

achievements?

pfff why does anyone need these? why do 360 gamers even brag about this feature? It dosen't make me me want to play the game again it onley gives me bragging rights when I have the most gamer points:roll:

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#38 mephisto_11
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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

JangoWuzHere

GFWL is just a horrible app..it work like crap on PC..and its such a pain to use...one of the worst additions to PC gaming

lol i must be the only one that likes the interface. i like it more than steam tbh. the achievements are a great bonus

it may be p2p but i get really good ping on gears pc (50-100) compared to gears 360 (200-300)

achievements?

pfff why does anyone need these? why do 360 gamers even brag about this feature? It dosen't make me me want to play the game again it onley gives me bragging rights when I have the most gamer points:roll:

its fun to unlock the achievements just like its fun to play games. as long as is its not obsessive it does add a bit to the experience. for me personally its not about bragging right i just enjoy unlocking them.

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#39 iam2green
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so its like xbox 360 with a new thing like steam but with ur gamertag... i don't like the look of that. i have steam already that is alright.

it sounds like a flop for haivng to buy things just like xbox 360 themes. i want a pc experience, download mods for games.

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#40 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

JangoWuzHere

GFWL is just a horrible app..it work like crap on PC..and its such a pain to use...one of the worst additions to PC gaming

lol i must be the only one that likes the interface. i like it more than steam tbh. the achievements are a great bonus

it may be p2p but i get really good ping on gears pc (50-100) compared to gears 360 (200-300)

achievements?

pfff why does anyone need these? why do 360 gamers even brag about this feature? It dosen't make me me want to play the game again it onley gives me bragging rights when I have the most gamer points:roll:

Why do PC gamers go crazy when Valve release a new achievement pack? Looks like you are in the minority.

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#41 opex07
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multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

mephisto_11

gfwl has always been free, the only thing that wasnt was the ability to play cross-platform (xbox to pc), and a few other random features but you could always play online from the moment it was released for free.

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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

Franko_3

p2p mp, gfwl erased save game in geow, ads, need to pay for theme...

ofcourse ms is putting a gun at your head forcing you to buy the themes :roll:

and the p2p thing is up to the devs.

the save game thing is a problem with a crappy port

like usualy pc gamers are bashing ms for no other reason than being ms and a evil baby eating corporation which goal it is to destroy the world.

but ofcourse steam having the sole monopoly on online gaming is such a good idea...

sure they made a mistake and wanted money from it, but they fixed it. Anyone remember how steam was the day it lauched? No? well it wasn't all that great either.

Why do PC gamers go crazy when Valve release a new achievement pack? Looks like you are in the minority.

Jamex1987

beacose it is from valve and everything from valve is better than the second comming of christ, muhammed and budha at once.

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#43 JangoWuzHere
Member since 2007 • 19032 Posts
[QUOTE="Franko_3"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

multiplayer is now free on gfwl so i dont know why people are complaining

Enosh88

p2p mp, gfwl erased save game in geow, ads, need to pay for theme...

ofcourse ms is putting a gun at your head forcing you to buy the themes :roll:

and the p2p thing is up to the devs.

the save game thing is a problem with a crappy port

like usualy pc gamers are bashing ms for no other reason than being ms and a evil baby eating corporation which goal it is to destroy the world.

but ofcourse steam having the sole monopoly on online gaming is such a good idea...

sure they made a mistake and wanted money from it, but they fixed it. Anyone remember how steam was the day it lauched? No? well it wasn't all that great either.

Why do PC gamers go crazy when Valve release a new achievement pack? Looks like you are in the minority.

Jamex1987

beacose it is from valve and everything from valve is better than the second comming of christ, muhammed and budha at once.

I got free gold when the service wasen't free and tried to register it on the Website but the site layout was done so horribly that I gave up on it after a couple of hours.

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#44 Deihmos
Member since 2007 • 7819 Posts

I got free gold when the service wasen't free and tried to register it on the Website but the site layout was done so horribly that I gave up on it after a couple of hours.

JangoWuzHere

It took me 2 minutes. What were you doing for a few hours? Thats's weird...

Does everyone know there is a new interface coming out soon? The current one isn't that good. Lots of developers will be using WIndows Live soon.

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#45 naruto7777
Member since 2007 • 8059 Posts
thats great pc is great