Mistwalker Studios talks Unreal Engine 3 woes.

Kyung also mentioned some language barrier problems with their staff - Mistwalker is a Japanese company. Add that to the updates and anybody will probably have a hard time keeping up.

We've heard what the other devs (Silicon Knights and Digital Extremes) had to say about Unreal Engine 3. We'll have to wait and see what Epic Games plans to do, though the other devs don't seem to have any plans of suing like Silicon Knights. Stay tuned for further developments.

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This opens up the door for RAGE to dominate...fascinating...JiveT

Rage is the Rockstar tool-kit right?

[QUOTE="JiveT"]This opens up the door for RAGE to dominate...fascinating...strahd01

Rage is the Rockstar tool-kit right?

Yeah...you are right...it is...I'm sorry what is ID calling their new engine? That's what I meant.

UE3 is awful, period. These developers have had such a terrible time with the engine. BioShockOwnz

It's awful for every other dev besides Epic games. :lol:

It's da truth look at UT3 it beats the Heck out of every UE3 game out there. :lol:

Epic keeps the goods back at home.

[QUOTE="strahd01"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]This opens up the door for RAGE to dominate...fascinating...JiveT

Rage is the Rockstar tool-kit right?

Yeah...you are right...it is...I'm sorry what is ID calling their new engine? That's what I meant.

Thank god John Carmack is still creating engines. id Tech 5 will own Unreal 3.-Tretiak

QFT!

as long as this doesnt affect huxley....or any of the other like 20 ue3 games coming out. im_different

Huxley is basically using UE2.5 with UE3 modifications, its not full UE3.

Unfortunately most devs are having trouble with UE3 for the simple fact its an unfinished engine, most dev teams have taken whatever they've had and extensively modified them. Why dev teams didn't just create there own instead of using an unfinished engine is beyond me, it may save costs but it doesn't give you the versitily of a self made engine.

Heh, it's bad because it's constantly updated? Well, if it's so hard to keep up, just stay with the version you've started with. If that version wasn't good enough, why would you want it in the first place, right?

And lol @ language barrier. Can't understand English and they're professional developers? =\

Last I checked, Unreal Engine 3isn't respobsible for gameplay.Timstuff

Check again. No game engine no gameplay.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Last I checked, Unreal Engine 3isn't respobsible for gameplay.JiveT

Check again. No game engine no gameplay.

I'm saying you can't blame problems with the UE3 engine for why your game is dull and uninspired.

Heh, it's bad because it's constantly updated? Well, if it's so hard to keep up, just stay with the version you've started with. If that version wasn't good enough, why would you want it in the first place, right?

And lol @ language barrier. Can't understand English and they're professional developers? =\

Xolver

as long as this doesnt affect huxley....or any of the other like 20 ue3 games coming out. im_different

dude why do you think huxley keeps getting delayed? there are over 150 developers who have licensed ue3...

Isn't Mass Effect a full Unreal 3.0 game?

How come Bioware hasn't complained? It seems like only the smaller devs are complaining like Silicon Knights and MistwalkerPhoebusFlows

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Heh, it's bad because it's constantly updated? Well, if it's so hard to keep up, just stay with the version you've started with. If that version wasn't good enough, why would you want it in the first place, right?

And lol @ language barrier. Can't understand English and they're professional developers? =\

PBSnipes

Every version is better, but every version is sufficient as-well. You don't complain if someone gives you option, right? I think lemmings would agree to that, heh.

As for the barrier, you went ahead and assumed I'm a native English speaker, I'm not. And I don't have a high-school diploma either. So there goes your "well, Japanese". I'm just saying that when the majority of the market is English (language), the majority of gamers play English games, and the coding is most probably English, you might as-well know English as a game-developer/coder.

[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]Isn't Mass Effect a full Unreal 3.0 game?

How come Bioware hasn't complained? It seems like only the smaller devs are complaining like Silicon Knights and MistwalkerPBSnipes

i agree. if developers stop complaining about the problem and fix it on their own, we will never see the day of light where no one complains

And lol @ language barrier. Can't understand English and they're professional developers? =\

Xolver

[QUOTE="JiveT"]This opens up the door for RAGE to dominate...fascinating...strahd01

Rage is the Rockstar tool-kit right?

I don't know...this is pretty strange. It seems like all the UE3 games so far have turned out good...

GeOW - 9.6
Bioshock - 9.0
Rainbow Six: Vegas - 9.1

Actually, now that I look at it, it seems that all the UE3 games so far have been AAA games.

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[QUOTE="JiveT"]This opens up the door for RAGE to dominate...fascinating...WuTangG

Rage is the Rockstar tool-kit right?

The game is called Rage. The engine is called Tech 5 or "The Rage Engine" :lol:

devs should start moving from UE3 to other...clearly better engines like cryengine 2.cobrax25

[QUOTE="JiveT"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Last I checked, Unreal Engine 3isn't respobsible for gameplay.Timstuff

Check again. No game engine no gameplay.

I'm saying you can't blame problems with the UE3 engine for why your game is dull and uninspired.

please highlight where the dev blamed ue3 for that

Thank god John Carmack is still creating engines. id Tech 5 will own Unreal 3.-Tretiak

[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="strahd01"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]This opens up the door for RAGE to dominate...fascinating...FRieDRyCe

Rage is the Rockstar tool-kit right?

The game is called Rage. The engine is called Tech 5 or "The Rage Engine" :lol:

id Tech 5 isn't replacing Unreal Engine 3 any time soon. It's meant for portability, not impressive graphics.

And lol @ language barrier. Can't understand English and they're professional developers? =\

Xolver

First off, remember that not everyone lives in the US. Knowing english is not the most important skill for a japanese video game programmer. The writer and project lead, they should know english. But the programming monkeys in the closet? They might not be as fluent, and it's alright.

Then it comes another problem: It's not reading Stephen King. Software documentation can be quite harsh even for native speakers - it's a very technical document, after all. Add to this a non-native speaker with a fundamentally different language system, and you're in for a lot of confusions, no matter how high his TOEFL score is.

devs should start moving from UE3 to other...clearly better engines like cryengine 2.cobrax25

Or the Offset Engine!

is it just me or is the timing on this article reaaaaaaaly ironic.Vandalvideo

I think this is about Lost Odyssey not Blue Dragon. I don't think Blue Dragon was made with UE3.

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]Thank god John Carmack is still creating engines. id Tech 5 will own Unreal 3.BioShockOwnz

QFT!

Thats where UE4 comes in.

[QUOTE="strahd01"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]This opens up the door for RAGE to dominate...fascinating...JiveT

Rage is the Rockstar tool-kit right?

Yeah...you are right...it is...I'm sorry what is ID calling their new engine? That's what I meant.

[QUOTE="JiveT"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]Last I checked, Unreal Engine 3isn't respobsible for gameplay.Timstuff

Check again. No game engine no gameplay.

I'm saying you can't blame problems with the UE3 engine for why your game is dull and uninspired.

sure you can. development resources are not unlimited. if you are given a budget and a deadline you can only do so much. it you have to spend a lot more time on an Engine than you expected and were promised then you have less resources for other aspect of the game.

I don't know...this is pretty strange. It seems like all the UE3 games so far have turned out good...

GeOW - 9.6
Bioshock - 9.0
Rainbow Six: Vegas - 9.1

Actually, now that I look at it, it seems that all the UE3 games so far have been AAA games.

FRieDRyCe

you seem to know of very little UE3 games....

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]UE3 is awful, period. These developers have had such a terrible time with the engine. Transfering7

It's awful for every other dev besides Epic games. :lol:

It's da truth look at UT3 it beats the Heck out of every UE3 game out there. :lol:

Epic keeps the goods back at home.

can u blame them

Jesus, so one of the complaints is because no one speaks Japanese for Epic? Ah, well why doesn't anyone speak English over there at Mistwalker then? lol, language barrier problems is a reason to bash Epic now? Let's sue them because the Epic devs don't speak Japanese....good one. I suppose someone is going to sue next because they can't speak Spanish.