Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?
Lol,thats like saying "downloading demos and games already exists on the PC",ok but its still a 1st of a console.I think i just lost some respect for Miyamoto,but what do you expect from a guy that just keeps reusing one character over and over again(lazy).
Wow, Miyamoto is really frustrated about Home according to this and previous comments about it. I think in a 1up interview, they said the whole audience was cheering after the LBP presentation, except for Miyamoto who didn't look impressed.
[QUOTE="FrenziedRaldo24"]Before Miyamoto criticizes Home, shouldnt Nintendo get their own online Act together?:|AvinashTyagi
They already know what they're going for, they have online in Japan, the rest of the world is coming, but home is still lame You know this because youve gone behind the scenes to Japan to play Wii Online, and youve tried out the Home beta which hasnt begun yet...
Let me help you off those coattails, Wii60, and drop those straws while youre at it...
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="FrenziedRaldo24"]Before Miyamoto criticizes Home, shouldnt Nintendo get their own online Act together?:|FrenziedRaldo24
They already know what they're going for, they have online in Japan, the rest of the world is coming, but home is still lame You know this because youve gone behind the scenes to Japan to play Wii Online, and youve tried out the Home beta which hasnt begun yet...
Let me help you off those coattails, Wii60, and drop those straws while youre at it...
No but i've seen second life, so I know that home will be lame, plus being microtransactioned to death isn't something wouldn't look forward
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="FrenziedRaldo24"]Before Miyamoto criticizes Home, shouldnt Nintendo get their own online Act together?:|AvinashTyagi
They already know what they're going for, they have online in Japan, the rest of the world is coming, but home is still lame You know this because youve gone behind the scenes to Japan to play Wii Online, and youve tried out the Home beta which hasnt begun yet...
Let me help you off those coattails, Wii60, and drop those straws while youre at it...
No but i've seen second life, so I know that home will be lame, plus being microtransactioned to death isn't something wouldn't look forward ...too? Finish your sentences before you post:| You havent even played Second Life (Only *saw*) and yet you know Home is identical to it... assumptions FTL? Since you seem to know Wii online is going to be so much better than PSN, I want you to spill the 411 since you seem to know so much about the matter. Or, are you just being the ignorant Nintendo follower im assuming you are? I want you to link me to an article that a Sony exc hints that there will be microtransactions in Home....theyve already stated that it will be free:|
People are comparing Home too much to Second Life. It is no where near the second life level, it is not even a persistent world. Its basically just a 3D chat zone, without all the in-depth tools and creation and involvement that will cause people to be addicted and 'live' there like SL. I had a bunch of replies in this thread, unfortunately the GS forums keeps dumping my posts when I try to submit and I'm getting tired of retyping or re-pasting them only to have them get dumped again.
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="FrenziedRaldo24"]Before Miyamoto criticizes Home, shouldnt Nintendo get their own online Act together?:|FrenziedRaldo24
They already know what they're going for, they have online in Japan, the rest of the world is coming, but home is still lame You know this because youve gone behind the scenes to Japan to play Wii Online, and youve tried out the Home beta which hasnt begun yet...
Let me help you off those coattails, Wii60, and drop those straws while youre at it...
No but i've seen second life, so I know that home will be lame, plus being microtransactioned to death isn't something wouldn't look forward ...too? Finish your sentences before you post:| You havent even played Second Life (Only *saw*) and yet you know Home is identical to it... assumptions FTL? Since you seem to know Wii online is going to be so much better than PSN, I want you to spill the 411 since you seem to know so much about the matter. Or, are you just being the ignorant Nintendo follower im assuming you are? I want you to link me to an article that a Sony exc hints that there will be microtransactions in Home....theyve already stated that it will be free:| Oh there will be microtransaction for furntiture, clothes etc. Also I never mentioned anything about either being better just that Home was lame, and that Wii has online
Yeah, Miyamoto. Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.
I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?
Yeah, Miyamoto. Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.vugundam
Using Mario in a game doesn't make a game unoriginal, its the gameplay meachanics that determine originality, Paper Mario was very original, but it wouldn't have sold as much if it was called Paper Bob
I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist
If they are such bad rip-offs why would Nintendo be upset? I'd think they would be laughing. And how is Home a ripoff of anything Nintendo did? How come no-one is calling Miis a ripoff of avatar creation that has already been on PC since forever?
[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Corvin
If they are such bad rip-offs why would Nintendo be upset? I'd think they would be laughing. And how is Home a ripoff of anything Nintendo did? How come no-one is calling Miis a ripoff of avatar creation that has already been on PC since forever? Because it has been on PC since forever. It is not remembered as someone's original creation. And would you be laughing if someone acted as if he created something you thought about before?
[QUOTE="Corvin"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist
If they are such bad rip-offs why would Nintendo be upset? I'd think they would be laughing. And how is Home a ripoff of anything Nintendo did? How come no-one is calling Miis a ripoff of avatar creation that has already been on PC since forever? Because it has been on PC since forever. It is not remembered as someone's original creation. And would you be laughing if someone acted as if he created something you thought about before? Your still acting like Nintendo created the concept of motion controls and avatars. Now if Sony had rolled out a plan to have pudgy childish little avatars with bubble heads called Yuus or something, Nintendo could be upset all they want.
[QUOTE="vugundam"]Yeah, Miyamoto. Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.AvinashTyagi
Using Mario in a game doesn't make a game unoriginal, its the gameplay meachanics that determine originality, Paper Mario was very original, but it wouldn't have sold as much if it was called Paper Bob
Exactly. Have a game that plays like Paper Mario without any Mario elements and the game would not do as well as it had. Videogame desing is a tough business and designing something that inspires people is pretty difficult. But even with all that effort, it shouldn't be too hard to make a new and original character for this gen now would it?
And now think of all the non-platformer games that have Mario put in as more of a selling icon than an indicator of something that inspires the industry like all the Mario sports games and even Mario DDR. Of course, that was last gen. Let's hope Nintendo can keep its steam going with the Wii.
[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Corvin"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Corvin
If they are such bad rip-offs why would Nintendo be upset? I'd think they would be laughing. And how is Home a ripoff of anything Nintendo did? How come no-one is calling Miis a ripoff of avatar creation that has already been on PC since forever? Because it has been on PC since forever. It is not remembered as someone's original creation. And would you be laughing if someone acted as if he created something you thought about before? Your still acting like Nintendo created the concept of motion controls and avatars. Now if Sony had rolled out a plan to have pudgy childish little avatars with bubble heads called Yuus or something, Nintendo could be upset all they want.
Maybe I need to mention Nintendo's Power Glove? But I don't really care about that glove. What matters is that before the Wii motion controls have never been done in a way they could be successfully introduced into the market as a standard device instead of a gimmick. But now that Sony admitted motion sensoring is 'next-gen' (while rumble is last-gen), it looks like every forgotten gimmick of the past is the ultimate proof Nintendo hasn't been innovative with the Wiimote. As for avatars, I never pretended Nintendo created them... Still, it doesn't look like Sony took their 'inspiration' for the Home concept somewhere else.
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="vugundam"]Yeah, Miyamoto. Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.vugundam
Using Mario in a game doesn't make a game unoriginal, its the gameplay meachanics that determine originality, Paper Mario was very original, but it wouldn't have sold as much if it was called Paper Bob
Exactly. Have a game that plays like Paper Mario without any Mario elements and the game would not do as well as it had. Videogame desing is a tough business and designing something that inspires people is pretty difficult. But even with all that effort, it shouldn't be too hard to make a new and original character for this gen now would it?
And now think of all the non-platformer games that have Mario put in as more of a selling icon than an indicator of something that inspires the industry like all the Mario sports games and even Mario DDR. Of course, that was last gen. Let's hope Nintendo can keep its steam going with the Wii.
And again you harping on the usage of mario doesn't change the fact that almost all those games are of good quality and many are excellent
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?danabo
I always thought Myamoto was above this type of mudslinging.I think Nintendo feels like they dropped the ball with the Mii's. You could say the same thing about the Wii-mote if you wanted to,its been done before.
Some big damage control. Well, at least nintendo doesnt copy PC ideas, im so glad they went with 16 digit friend codes instead of copying the pc.coolguy1111
He lost credibility when he decided to attack one of the Rare developer for Donkey Kong Country. He was pathetic at that point, I mean Rare turned Donkey Kong's image into what he is renowned to be today. He was mad that his generic king kong was being turned into something original?
[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]well miyamoto is right about one thing. nintendo is definately original with their online plan. they are the only company without one.Koawinter
How's that? exchanging friend codes isnt what i expected or wanted when nintendo said they were going to "do online right."
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