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#51 Wintry_Flutist
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Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:TrueReligion_

And it's a big hit, right?

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Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?Corvin
Not really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly?
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[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffcoolguy1111
Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.



Ok so it's an extention of second life...
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?
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[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="vugundam"]Yeah, Miyamoto.  Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.AvinashTyagi

Using Mario in a game doesn't make a game unoriginal, its the gameplay meachanics that determine originality, Paper Mario was very original, but it wouldn't have sold as much if it was called Paper Bob

Exactly. Have a game that plays like Paper Mario without any Mario elements and the game would not do as well as it had. Videogame desing is a tough business and designing something that inspires people is pretty difficult. But even with all that effort, it shouldn't be too hard to make a new and original character for this gen now would it?

And now think of all the non-platformer games that have Mario put in as more of a selling icon than an indicator of something that inspires the industry like all the Mario sports games and even Mario DDR. Of course, that was last gen. Let's hope Nintendo can keep its steam going with the Wii.

And again you harping on the usage of mario doesn't change the fact that almost all those games are of good quality and many are excellent

I never did say those games were unenjoyable by any means. But were all of them original? That get's back at my point of Nintendo trying to be orginal yet playing some of the same songs many times.
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist

And it's a big hit, right?

Does it matter if its a big hit? It is widely accesible to the public.  Yay bubble popping ninja killing motion sensing eye toy game.
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#57 Corvin
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Maybe I need do mention Nintendo's Power Glove? But I don't really care about that glove. What matters is that before the Wii motion controls have never been done in a way they could be successfully introduced into the market as a standard device instead of a gimmick. But now that Sony admitted motion sensoring is 'next-gen' (while rumble is last-gen), it looks like every forgotten gimmick of the past is the ultimate proof Nintendo hasn't been innovative with the Wiimote. As for avatars, I never pretended Nintendo created them... Still, it doesn't look like Sony took their 'inspiration' for the Home concept somewhere else. Wintry_Flutist


Sony says a lot of things... rumble is last-gen... says the childish company spurned by a lawsuit, only to kiss and make up and say, "Oh yeah, we were wrong, rumble is cool stuff."  Motion controls have been around and very successful for decades now (the Mouse).  Just not on the consoles yet.  Yeah the wiimote is different from a mouse but its nothing ground breaking IMO, and its not like they haven't had 'floating' mice before so where is the accusation of Nitendo stealing the concept of motion controls from the PC?

As for the avatars, I am more likely to point to Second Life as inspiration rather than Mii.  Home is just, its absolutely nothing like the Miis.  Not in its presentation nor usage.  You can't chat in a virtual world with Miis.  Maybe you can one day and then that is probably the day where Nintendo is accused of ripping off Sony.  I find it very plausible that Sony was toying with the idea of an online 3D chat environment for a few years, just as Miyamoto says he had envisioned the concept of Miis for over 20 years.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffGundamGuy0
Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.



Ok so it's an extention of second life...

Name an innovative console feature? not done on pc.. come one everything is done on pc first.
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#59 Corvin
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist

And it's a big hit, right?

The mouse is a HUGE hit.
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I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist


:lol: Sony has been working on Home for 2 years, long before that Mii garbage.
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[QUOTE="Corvin"]Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?MaTT2011
Not really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly?

Ive never been able to walk into EAs awesome looking .. thing, shoot some hoops, kick a soccer ball around, go to a bar and play pool, then launch a game from that world, your point?
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffcoolguy1111
Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.



Ok so it's an extention of second life...

Name an innovative console feature? not done on pc.. come one everything is done on pc first.



I don't disagree with what you said... I'm just saying Miyamoto is not wrong.
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#63 Wintry_Flutist
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:TrueReligion_

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?miss_kitt3n


:lol: Sony has been working on Home for 2 years, long before that Mii garbage.

You don't really understand what I posted, do you?
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and wii already exists on n64.
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.
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#67 Corvin
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[QUOTE="Corvin"]Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?MaTT2011
Not really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly?

Miyamoto is dissing Sony for using a concept from the PC. You act as if a LOT of Wii games let you use the Mii. I've played plenty of games where I could create a character to represent me, nothing new. Heck as far back as the D&D Gold Box games you could create characters and use them across many multiple games. Miis are only used in 1st party Nintendo games and thats probably how it will be, its not that exciting or innovative. As for the motion controls. I havent seen a lot of good Wii game use full motion controls either. Its usually pretty stunted or not 1:1 realtime. The mouse is just fine for me in terms of motion control. Point is, Miyamoto is the pot calling the kettle black.
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[QUOTE="miss_kitt3n"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist


:lol: Sony has been working on Home for 2 years, long before that Mii garbage.

You don't really understand why I posted, do you?

You have no idea how long it takes to create a "Second life rip-off" Thats 10x more advanced then second life.
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.

The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma.
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="miss_kitt3n"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?coolguy1111


:lol: Sony has been working on Home for 2 years, long before that Mii garbage.

You don't really understand why I posted, do you?

You have no idea how long it takes to create a "Second life rip-off" Thats 10x more advanced then second life.

Step 1) Compile the engine Step 2) Get some teenagers high and give them a peice of pape rand some pencils. Step 3) ? Step 4) Home
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.

The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma.

But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.

The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma.

But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.

Well, you can keep repeting it to yourself and you may start to believe it. There has ever been something like the Wii before, or else everyone would have noticed.

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Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originality

Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto

Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."

Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.

"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.

Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."

He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.

"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.

If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?danabo
Originality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!
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Yea uhh dude theres been many motion sensing stuff on the PC, made by MS actually.
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Wintrey: By that you mean a CONSOLE that has had standardized motion controls right? Sure thats original.............for consoles. But there have been motion controls for quite some time tha twork with every PC game imaginable.
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I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist

You do know it was proven they planned on putting motion sensitivity in PS2 right? they have a video and everything...

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But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.Vandalvideo


I agree with this.  I have said for a while now the only reason Wii is more simple than the other systems is because "Nintendo told me so."  What they should be saying is that a small handful of games are easy, not the system.  Look at some of the other games, they can be just as complex as standard controllers only you need to learn motion controls instead of buttons (but you still need to learn buttons too).

You most certainly could advertise the PS3 or 360 the same way Nintendo is trying to advertise the Wii... well not EXACTLY the same.  Nintendo used a bunch of ads just showing people flailing the wiimote around doing embarassing things like hiding behind the couch, showing off how fun the remote looks to use instead of how fun the actual games are.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]You have no idea how long it takes to create a "Second life rip-off" Thats 10x more advanced then second life.Vandalvideo
Step 1) Compile the engine Step 2) Get some teenagers high and give them a peice of pape rand some pencils. Step 3) ? Step 4) Home

If only it were that easy...:| ... :(
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?swade

You do know it was proven they planned on putting motion sensitivity in PS2 right? they have a video and everything...

They did it, it's the EyeToy, and as far as I know that's Sony's creation in their own right.

But as for motion sensitivity in controllers as it's being done now, quite funny Sony decided to finally use it when they realized Wii was gaining momentum thanks to it.

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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

How does that make Nintendo original? They expanded on an idea made by someone else. The actual hardware was made by someone else. :roll:
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[QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originality

Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto

Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."

Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.

"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.

Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."

He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.

"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.

If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?DaddyDC650
Originality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!

Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed.
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originality

Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto

Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."

Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.

"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.

Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."

He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.

"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.

If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?Marka1700
Originality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!

Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed.

Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. That's like saying the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console has a new controller. Pwned?
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originality

Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto

Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."

Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.

"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.

Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."

He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.

"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.

If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?DaddyDC650
Originality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!

Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed.

Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned?

No, we see it every single generation.
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originality

Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto

Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."

Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.

"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.

Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."

He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.

"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.

If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?Marka1700
Originality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!

Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed.

Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned?

No, we see it every single generation.

Then the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console comes with new controllers. Dumb logic you're using bud.
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Hes just mad because Sony whoops them in just about every thing they do or make. Another example will be home.
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originality

Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto

Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."

Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.

"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.

Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."

He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.

"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.

If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?DaddyDC650
Originality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!

Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed.

Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned?

No, we see it every single generation.

Then the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console comes with new controllers. Dumb logic you're using bud.

I never claim the wii to be orignal, you just assumed that I did.
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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originality

Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto

Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."

Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.

"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.

Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."

He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.

"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.

If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?Marka1700
Originality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!

Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed.

Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned?

No, we see it every single generation.

Then the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console comes with new controllers. Dumb logic you're using bud.

I never claim the wii to be orignal, you just assumed that I did.

Rrrrriight. So you're basically admitting that the Wii is unoriginal because it has last-gen gfx and a controller which is "not original".
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i think Miyamoto is letting his fame get to him
miyamoto is old and senile :DTwo400
i think Miyamoto is letting his fame get to him
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[QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Corvin"]Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?coolguy1111
Not really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly?

Ive never been able to walk into EAs awesome looking .. thing, shoot some hoops, kick a soccer ball around, go to a bar and play pool, then launch a game from that world, your point?

The point being that Mii's and motion sensing havent already been done on PC. Hence why i said "not really"
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.

The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma.

But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.

Technology and product are not the same thing. The technology of motion sensing has been around, yes, but it has not been applied to gaming in the manner that nintendo has applied it; hence their product. The product is a console video game system that is built around the ability to use motion sensing as the primary means for primary interaction and control of gameplay dynamics. THAT product is original, its never been done. Just because motion sensing has been around in various forms for some times doesnt mean that nintendo's use of it is unoriginal; its innovative precisely because it uses the technology in the ways that it has.
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miyamoto is old and senile  :DTwo400

Get the **** off the internet.

You don't deserve to be a gamer of any kind when you say something like that.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:MaTT2011

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.

The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma.

But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.

Technology and product are not the same thing. The technology of motion sensing has been around, yes, but it has not been applied to gaming in the manner that nintendo has applied it; hence their product. The product is a console video game system that is built around the ability to use motion sensing as the primary means for primary interaction and control of gameplay dynamics. THAT product is original, its never been done. Just because motion sensing has been around in various forms for some times doesnt mean that nintendo's use of it is unoriginal; its innovative precisely because it uses the technology in the ways that it has.

So if I made a restraunt called Toss Your Salad and served Ceaser Salads from Pizza Hut then I'd totally be original?
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[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffcoolguy1111
Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.

Oh please PS home looks weak sauce
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[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="vugundam"]

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="vugundam"]Yeah, Miyamoto.  Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.vugundam

Using Mario in a game doesn't make a game unoriginal, its the gameplay meachanics that determine originality, Paper Mario was very original, but it wouldn't have sold as much if it was called Paper Bob

Exactly. Have a game that plays like Paper Mario without any Mario elements and the game would not do as well as it had. Videogame desing is a tough business and designing something that inspires people is pretty difficult. But even with all that effort, it shouldn't be too hard to make a new and original character for this gen now would it?

And now think of all the non-platformer games that have Mario put in as more of a selling icon than an indicator of something that inspires the industry like all the Mario sports games and even Mario DDR. Of course, that was last gen. Let's hope Nintendo can keep its steam going with the Wii.

And again you harping on the usage of mario doesn't change the fact that almost all those games are of good quality and many are excellent

I never did say those games were unenjoyable by any means. But were all of them original? That get's back at my point of Nintendo trying to be orginal yet playing some of the same songs many times.

Yes the first iterations of most of those games were original
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffAvinashTyagi
Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.

Oh please PS home looks weak sauce

Your sig is weak sauce.
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[QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo

And it's a big hit, right?

What are you implying?

Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.

So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.

The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma.

But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.

Technology and product are not the same thing. The technology of motion sensing has been around, yes, but it has not been applied to gaming in the manner that nintendo has applied it; hence their product. The product is a console video game system that is built around the ability to use motion sensing as the primary means for primary interaction and control of gameplay dynamics. THAT product is original, its never been done. Just because motion sensing has been around in various forms for some times doesnt mean that nintendo's use of it is unoriginal; its innovative precisely because it uses the technology in the ways that it has.

So if I made a restraunt called Toss Your Salad and served Ceaser Salads from Pizza Hut then I'd totally be original?

Thats the most ludicrous example i've ever seen. You cant possibly think that in any way shares any qualities with what we are talking about, please tell me you are joking.
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Matt: But I'm providing salad (Motion sensing) to the casual masses through fast food. It may be fast food salad, but its still Ceaser salad from pizza hut.
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[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffDaddyDC650
Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.

Oh please PS home looks weak sauce

Your sig is weak sauce.

I've gotten good reviews on my Sig, better than the PS3 has
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To be honest I never bought that Home was in development for as long as Sony was saying it was. Just something about that never sat well with me when it was announced.