Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:TrueReligion_
And it's a big hit, right?
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Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?CorvinNot really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly?
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffcoolguy1111Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.
[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying?[QUOTE="vugundam"]Using Mario in a game doesn't make a game unoriginal, its the gameplay meachanics that determine originality, Paper Mario was very original, but it wouldn't have sold as much if it was called Paper Bob[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="vugundam"]Yeah, Miyamoto. Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.AvinashTyagi
Exactly. Have a game that plays like Paper Mario without any Mario elements and the game would not do as well as it had. Videogame desing is a tough business and designing something that inspires people is pretty difficult. But even with all that effort, it shouldn't be too hard to make a new and original character for this gen now would it?
And now think of all the non-platformer games that have Mario put in as more of a selling icon than an indicator of something that inspires the industry like all the Mario sports games and even Mario DDR. Of course, that was last gen. Let's hope Nintendo can keep its steam going with the Wii.
And again you harping on the usage of mario doesn't change the fact that almost all those games are of good quality and many are excellent I never did say those games were unenjoyable by any means. But were all of them original? That get's back at my point of Nintendo trying to be orginal yet playing some of the same songs many times.[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist
And it's a big hit, right?
Does it matter if its a big hit? It is widely accesible to the public.Maybe I need do mention Nintendo's Power Glove? But I don't really care about that glove. What matters is that before the Wii motion controls have never been done in a way they could be successfully introduced into the market as a standard device instead of a gimmick. But now that Sony admitted motion sensoring is 'next-gen' (while rumble is last-gen), it looks like every forgotten gimmick of the past is the ultimate proof Nintendo hasn't been innovative with the Wiimote. As for avatars, I never pretended Nintendo created them... Still, it doesn't look like Sony took their 'inspiration' for the Home concept somewhere else. Wintry_Flutist
Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffGundamGuy0
I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist
[QUOTE="Corvin"]Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?MaTT2011Not really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly? Ive never been able to walk into EAs awesome looking .. thing, shoot some hoops, kick a soccer ball around, go to a bar and play pool, then launch a game from that world, your point?
[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life.
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffcoolguy1111
[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:TrueReligion_
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick.[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?miss_kitt3n
[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts.[QUOTE="Corvin"]Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?MaTT2011Not really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly? Miyamoto is dissing Sony for using a concept from the PC. You act as if a LOT of Wii games let you use the Mii. I've played plenty of games where I could create a character to represent me, nothing new. Heck as far back as the D&D Gold Box games you could create characters and use them across many multiple games. Miis are only used in 1st party Nintendo games and thats probably how it will be, its not that exciting or innovative. As for the motion controls. I havent seen a lot of good Wii game use full motion controls either. Its usually pretty stunted or not 1:1 realtime. The mouse is just fine for me in terms of motion control. Point is, Miyamoto is the pot calling the kettle black.
[QUOTE="miss_kitt3n"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist
[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts. The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma.[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="miss_kitt3n"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?coolguy1111
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts. The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma. But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts. The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma. But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.Well, you can keep repeting it to yourself and you may start to believe it. There has ever been something like the Wii before, or else everyone would have noticed.
Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originalityOriginality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL!
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?danabo
I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?Wintry_Flutist
You do know it was proven they planned on putting motion sensitivity in PS2 right? they have a video and everything...
But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original.Vandalvideo
[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]You have no idea how long it takes to create a "Second life rip-off" Thats 10x more advanced then second life.VandalvideoStep 1) Compile the engine Step 2) Get some teenagers high and give them a peice of pape rand some pencils. Step 3) ? Step 4) Home If only it were that easy...:| ... :(
[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]I can't blame him. It must be horrible to see your ideas being stolen so quickly. Sixaxis, Home, Sony had nothing like that and suddenly they were under development for over 2 years. Come on, two years for Second Life rip off and cheap GBA tilting with no rumble?swade
You do know it was proven they planned on putting motion sensitivity in PS2 right? they have a video and everything...
They did it, it's the EyeToy, and as far as I know that's Sony's creation in their own right.
But as for motion sensitivity in controllers as it's being done now, quite funny Sony decided to finally use it when they realized Wii was gaining momentum thanks to it.
[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Wintry_Flutist
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. How does that make Nintendo original? They expanded on an idea made by someone else. The actual hardware was made by someone else. :roll:[QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originalityOriginality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL! Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed.
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?DaddyDC650
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originalityOriginality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL! Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed. Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. That's like saying the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console has a new controller. Pwned?
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?Marka1700
[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originalityOriginality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL! Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed. Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned? No, we see it every single generation.
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?DaddyDC650
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originalityOriginality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL! Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed. Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned? No, we see it every single generation. Then the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console comes with new controllers. Dumb logic you're using bud.
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?Marka1700
[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originalityOriginality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL! Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed. Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned? No, we see it every single generation. Then the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console comes with new controllers. Dumb logic you're using bud. I never claim the wii to be orignal, you just assumed that I did.
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?DaddyDC650
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="danabo"]Miyamoto plays-down PS3 Home originalityOriginality? The Wii has last-gen graphics for pete's sake and he's talking about Home not being original? LoL! Whats the got to do with anything, improving on graphics ist origninal, its been around since graphics existed. Improving graphics IS original because it's something we've never usually seen before. Pwned? No, we see it every single generation. Then the Wii-mote is not original because almost every new console comes with new controllers. Dumb logic you're using bud. I never claim the wii to be orignal, you just assumed that I did. Rrrrriight. So you're basically admitting that the Wii is unoriginal because it has last-gen gfx and a controller which is "not original".
Monday 19-Mar-2007 1:12 PM It "already exists in one form on the PC" says Miyamoto
Nintendo legend, Shigeru Miyamoto, played down the originality of Sony's newly-announced Home service for PlayStation 3, saying: "What they're doing already exists in one form on the PC."
Miyamoto went on to accentuating Nintendo's focus on originality. "Our focus is always to be different and do something that's different. That's why, even though, technically speaking, the Miis take advantage of the Internet, that isn't our main focus," he said.
"We are trying to do something that is different and create something that hasn't been there before," Miyamoto told mercurynews.com.
Talking about the lasting appeal of Wii, Miyamoto stated: "It depends on the software we create to make it appealing. Originally, people said Wii Sports was a fun game but it was simple. People would lose interest in it very quickly. We are finding people are still playing it."
He goes on to speak about Nintendo's vision of Wii becoming a common household tool. "Every time people get together in the home, people bring out the Wii to entertain themselves" Miyamoto envisions.
"That's one way to try to sustain the momentum the Wii has gained. To turn it into that tool", he says, highlighting the upcoming Wii "health packs or Wii Fit" games in developments as a way of turning Wii into this tool.
If we recall correctly, the Wii message boards were, in a similar philosophy, intended to be used in the home as a replacement for post-it notes on the fridge. We haven't used it once. Have you?Marka1700
miyamoto is old and senile :DTwo400i think Miyamoto is letting his fame get to him
[QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Corvin"]Avatars (Miis) and motion sensing are already done on a PC, too. Whats his point exactly?coolguy1111Not really. Ive never seen my avater, for something like xfire/aim/whatever, used IN games AS my character representation. I've also NEVER seen a good game use full motion controls on PC......so whats YOUR point exactly? Ive never been able to walk into EAs awesome looking .. thing, shoot some hoops, kick a soccer ball around, go to a bar and play pool, then launch a game from that world, your point? The point being that Mii's and motion sensing havent already been done on PC. Hence why i said "not really"
[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts. The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma. But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original. Technology and product are not the same thing. The technology of motion sensing has been around, yes, but it has not been applied to gaming in the manner that nintendo has applied it; hence their product. The product is a console video game system that is built around the ability to use motion sensing as the primary means for primary interaction and control of gameplay dynamics. THAT product is original, its never been done. Just because motion sensing has been around in various forms for some times doesnt mean that nintendo's use of it is unoriginal; its innovative precisely because it uses the technology in the ways that it has.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:MaTT2011
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts. The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma. But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original. Technology and product are not the same thing. The technology of motion sensing has been around, yes, but it has not been applied to gaming in the manner that nintendo has applied it; hence their product. The product is a console video game system that is built around the ability to use motion sensing as the primary means for primary interaction and control of gameplay dynamics. THAT product is original, its never been done. Just because motion sensing has been around in various forms for some times doesnt mean that nintendo's use of it is unoriginal; its innovative precisely because it uses the technology in the ways that it has. So if I made a restraunt called Toss Your Salad and served Ceaser Salads from Pizza Hut then I'd totally be original?[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffcoolguy1111Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life. Oh please PS home looks weak sauce
[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="vugundam"]Using Mario in a game doesn't make a game unoriginal, its the gameplay meachanics that determine originality, Paper Mario was very original, but it wouldn't have sold as much if it was called Paper Bob[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="vugundam"]Yeah, Miyamoto. Go off talking about the lack of originality in the videogame industry while you use brand-names to sell games that wouldn't have otherwise.vugundam
Exactly. Have a game that plays like Paper Mario without any Mario elements and the game would not do as well as it had. Videogame desing is a tough business and designing something that inspires people is pretty difficult. But even with all that effort, it shouldn't be too hard to make a new and original character for this gen now would it?
And now think of all the non-platformer games that have Mario put in as more of a selling icon than an indicator of something that inspires the industry like all the Mario sports games and even Mario DDR. Of course, that was last gen. Let's hope Nintendo can keep its steam going with the Wii.
And again you harping on the usage of mario doesn't change the fact that almost all those games are of good quality and many are excellent I never did say those games were unenjoyable by any means. But were all of them original? That get's back at my point of Nintendo trying to be orginal yet playing some of the same songs many times. Yes the first iterations of most of those games were original[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffAvinashTyagiHave you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life. Oh please PS home looks weak sauce Your sig is weak sauce.
[QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Miyamoto: Motion Sensing already exists on the PC. :roll:Vandalvideo
And it's a big hit, right?
What are you implying? Nintendo is original for being able to create a product around motion sensing that can actually be marketed as a standard product instead of a gimmick. So its their marketing thats original, not the actual hardware or concepts. The product itself is part of the marketing. You can't market anything anyway. Try to convince someone the PS3 is for a nongamer grandma. But the product itself has been around forever in some form or fashion. It was the actual marketing of said product to the masses in a much more appetizing form that was original. The product itself isn't original. Technology and product are not the same thing. The technology of motion sensing has been around, yes, but it has not been applied to gaming in the manner that nintendo has applied it; hence their product. The product is a console video game system that is built around the ability to use motion sensing as the primary means for primary interaction and control of gameplay dynamics. THAT product is original, its never been done. Just because motion sensing has been around in various forms for some times doesnt mean that nintendo's use of it is unoriginal; its innovative precisely because it uses the technology in the ways that it has. So if I made a restraunt called Toss Your Salad and served Ceaser Salads from Pizza Hut then I'd totally be original? Thats the most ludicrous example i've ever seen. You cant possibly think that in any way shares any qualities with what we are talking about, please tell me you are joking.[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"]The cows are so funny, Miyamaot is telling the truth, PShome is a second life ripoffDaddyDC650Have you played second life? Youcant do half the stuff Sonys saying you could do in home in 2nd life. Oh please PS home looks weak sauce Your sig is weak sauce. I've gotten good reviews on my Sig, better than the PS3 has
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