Moment of clarity about Sony's first party exclusives

That means they were second party.

Meh, still some good games. I quite liked resistance, it was more fun than Grey zone series (Eww), Also wipe out was great series, destruction derby, ape escape, spry, twisted metal was ok, crazy Ivan.

Nintendo haven't released a darn game first or third party worth a play in 10 Years and MS are all about Word, spreadsheets etc.. (joking)

Sony are top in both third and first party

I think it is fair to say that yes Nintendo is the first party king. They have iconic franchises, iconic known gaming characters and no one can really match them but Sony had the bigger appeal to gamers cause Nintendo has always been seen as just a "kiddie" gaming company for kids where Sony was perceived to make games for everyone else.

@Planeforger: Uncharted 3 made 3.8 million on opening week. And that's considered the worst of the series. I don't even like Gran Turismo, I don't know anyone who does.

1. I'd say Demon's Souls/Bloodborne and Ratchet and Clank are 1st party games (Sony owned IPs) collaborated with 3rd party devs, so was Sly Cooper, Spyro and Crash (owned by Sony at the time)

2. Just because you didn't like Uncharted 3, TLoU and GoW3 doesn't mean they're not great, they all have 92+ MC score.

3. And you just conveniently left out like 50 quality 1st party games Sony's made over the years, Gran Turismo 1,2,3, Wipeout, Syphon Filter, R&C 2,3, Twisted Metal Black, SotC, Ico, Jax and Daxter, LBP 1,2, Journey, MLB series JUST naming ones over 90 at MC.

4. Tons of Upcoming 1st party games includes Dreams, Detroit, GT Sports, Horizon, Hot Shot Golf, Last Guardian, Gravity Rush 2, Shadow of the Beast, Tomorrow Children, Matterfall and other indie-budget games, also Alienation just released

Still a better track record than Xbox.

And 90% of your post is subjective.

@justtoday: Sly Cooper was a 1st party series made by Sony's Sucker Punch, who now makes Infamous. It's true that in the PS2 era, Sucker Punch was a 2nd party, but they are 1st party now and have been for years.

I do agree that Sony's 1st party so far is on the downswing, but you started inserting your own opinion into the equation which is easily counter-able by my saying those games you listed are good and you are wrong. Instead of saying my opinion > your opinion, I'll be more objective instead by using metacritic to look at a few titles.

I get you were trying to make a point about 1st Party Sony games, but you went too far in being subjective when you discounted clearly good/great games like GOW3 and TLOU.

Here is some metascores and links for proof of great 1st party games you tried to discount as poor games when they are actually 90+ metascoring games which is an incredibly rare and hard feat:

Also, God of War 3 did not suck = 92/100 metascore (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/god-of-war-iii)

Nor did The Last of Us = 95/100 metascore (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-last-of-us)

Nor did Uncharted 3 = 92/100 metascore (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/uncharted-3-drakes-deception)

I do think some of these above games like U3 wasn't as good as U2, but I wouldn't say it's terrible as they are good games, even if not as good as the last game (same could be said for many sequels from Zelda to Starcraft to Halo). No point in arguing opinion vs. opinion either because then one could claim that Mario, Halo, Zelda, Sonic, or whatever are bad games in their opinion.

You didn't even cover other 1st Party high points that consistently get great scores and are internally developed by Sony like:

1. Shadow of the Colossus,
2. ICO,
3. Jak & Daxter,
4. LittleBigPlanet,
5. LittleBigPlanet 2,
6. Journey,
7. LocoRoco,
8. Gravity Rush,
9. Ape Escape,
10. Tearaway,
11. Singstar,
12. Puppeteer,
13. MLB: The Show series.

I understand gaming "taste" comes into play and some people might not like select games from the above list, but the point was to show some actual well received critically made 1st party games and that was easy to do. With regards to Sony outsourcing to get games like Resistance and Ratchet and Clank to gamers, let's not forget that even the fantastic Nintendo also outsources when it comes to making their games from Zelda to Metroid to Starfox.

This.

I'd agree, God of War 3 was a massive letdown after God of War 2. I'd even agree I found the Uncharted series to date very underwhelming and overhyped, wouldn't put it past me The Last of Us was as well. But I wouldn't go on saying Sony doesn't have or had any first party talent is a bit absurd. Sure there are arrangements like Quantic Dream or Insomniac who aren't owned by by Sony making Sony published exclusives like Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls, Resistance series and Ratchet & Clank. Nintendo does this too, take for instance Retro Studios making the Metroid Prime games. But, that aside, games developed by in house studios, Sony has plenty of great games there. Though, I could count the many that have graced us in the last two gens I won't bother. But, this is a new gen, and Sony has been rather relaxed in putting out any worthwhile first party content like they've been able to in previous generations.

This^

Lems gon' lem. Prepare your buttholes for when Uncharted drops you ms shills with the weakest console and the lower scoring games.

One game alone for me makes Sony 1st party Gods among devs: Shadow of the Colossus aka my favorite game of all time: 1st party

Demon's Souls was a colaboration between From Software and Sony JAPAN. What makes you say From were the main developers on the game? Sure they expanded on the souls formula but they already had the ground bases to expand on it. There's no way to say Sony JAPAN wasnt as much if not more influential on the project

What about Jak and Daxter? Often regarded as one of the best 3d platfomers of PS2 generation? 1st party

LBP and the masterpiece that is Tearaway (vita)? also 1st party

Sony 1st party may be actually overrated, but imo so is Nintendo. Mostly rehashes after rehashes and the couples ones I played from them I also found extremely overrated (opinions, go figure)

The best devs were always 3rd party (Rockstar, CD Projekt Red, Valve, old capcom, old konami, etc, etc)

all in all, we can at least agree MS 1st party is sh*t. That one, at least, I think is popular opinion

I thought that GOW 3 was awesome!

@flyincloud1116: Jeeze, Gow3 isn't that good. Hell by that score it's rated supposedly higher than Bayonetta 2 a game which is marvellous in comparison to slow and clunky god of war 3.

And if gonna add sing star to any debate then add knack too as they're both shovelware.

Opinion noted.

Welcome to System Wars with your "brand new account" *wink*.

I don't know why anyone one bothers with alts here on CowSpot, you're not going to change anyone's mind by posting under a different name. The cows are all a lost cause and set in their ways.

I was really happy with my Ps3 purchase last gen, a little worn out on some titles (God of War, Uncharted, Infamous, LBP, Killzone) but overall the first party was amazing. A totally different experience to Nintendo's first part (which is also amazing), have both systems, get great games. Well I got my Ps3 when GoW3 came out so I missed the 2 year drought but I had around 24 great games before I sold the system to a friend.

Cows crying over opinions as usual. Cows gonna cow

Lems = rekt

Good stuff as usual man.

Also Both Demon's Souls and Bloodborne were co-developed by Japan Stuido as Sony first party colab.

The cows have gone off the deep end now! Dayum.

BTW cows, Sony helping FUND a game is not the same as creating and developing them but by all means continue to cry over someone's opinion. Cows are easily the most insecure group of fanboys I've ever seen

@Xdrone: bc lems aren't respected as much as any other fanboy faction here.

When you have posters like Nyadc making threads "asking" if games on both PS4 and PS4.5 will be considered multiplat...

Yeah, that's some trivial zealot stuff.

If that was true this thread wouldn't exist and you wouldn't be here crying about sony fans responding to a thread about "sony" games.

So because sony fans don't smile and say, "I agree" to the opinion of a random guy who down plays all high profile sony exclusives that goes against credible critical sources cows are insecure?

Because you are upset that people aren't blindly agreeing to someone saying every Playstation game this is critically high rated is somehow crap it shows how people like you are bitter, insecure and desperate. Xbox fanboys always describe themselves when make angry posts talking about people not agreeing to their outlandish fanboyism.

Wrong cow, cows create more topics, whine and cry more than any other fanboys here or anywhere for that matter. The only ones crying here are you cows and I'm just sitting here laughing at how pathetic you are. You're literally crying about someone's opinion desperately trying to show how wrong he is. You and your fellow brotheren are the very definition of cry baby hypocrites.

By all means continue, this is hilarious.

@mr_huggles_dog: I would say it's the cows that are not as respected as much here.

Correct, but I didn't want to debate with the TC when I posted internally developed games, so I strayed from any 2nd party help. That said, the TC should be made aware Sony's internal studios did help with Bloodborne and Demon's Souls.

Thanks. New alts springing up making unfounded claims once again. :(

@Dibdibdobdobo: Slow and clunky lol, you fanboys make me giggle.

Lame-sona 5 isn't a first party exclusive, it happens to be a Playstation exclusive from a 3rd party. It's possible that it may come out on other consoles, but of course the devs don't like making extra money from a weeaboo dating sim RPG series, right @charizard1605 and @aigis/ArisShadow?

lol You're clearly angry and discontent.

You aren't laughing, you are raging because your post points to you crying about "cows" when the thread is addressing sony fans, are they not supposed to respond or only agree for you not to rage? So what you said makes no sense but that's to be expected from raging fanboys of your caliber.

lol you are in a LEMMING made thread crying about sony games...that is the insecurity of you guys simply because the games you guys are trying to put down are criticaly better than everything on the system you are a fanboy of.

So please do go on whining about "cows" when I'm in a lemming made a thread crying about Sony games; not the other way around. Like I said this thread wouldn't exist if what you said was true but for the sake of you rabid fanboyism and damage control, keep believing that :) it's be fun watching your tears tomorrow as well.

Now time to go back to that xbox one game you lems have been hyping for the last 4 years to be better than UC4 that massively flopped but lems still claim it's best game eva lol lem @ opinions on games.

We can sum up lems opinion on games with this one phrase "if it's on Playstation it sucks, if it's on xbox it's amazing!" You guys don't judge games you judge platforms that's why your opinion on games is always at odds with actual credible and objective opinion. :)

@howmakewood: I prefer the time where it was almost 100% exclusive on all system ... they were all worth it ... now not so much since so many games are multiplat

How so? How would I be upset because someone thinks Sonys 1st party devs are mediocre at best? That makes absolutely no sense but then you cows rarely do.

That's exactly why I'm laughing. He called Sony's games mediocre and you and your fellow cows come in crying and defending. It's absolutely funny but obviously not for you and your bovine brothers. I'm even laughing as I type this and yes it's at you.

Am I? Did I mention any games good or bad? Have I said I agreed with the TC? Nope, more desperate talk coming from one of the biggest cry baby cows on here. Nice try but can't pass off your butthurt kid. Keep up your crying though cause it is funny.

That bold underlined word best describes you. Why else do you feel the need to mention MS in almost every post of yours, even when the topic has nothing to do with the X1. Constantly putting down the competition only wreaks of insecurity and you sir wreak it in spades.

Hahahah there I fixed it for you cow. A truer statement was never made. Keep up the crying it's entertaining me while I'm working.

@kvally: yes I'm sure you would.

But when when you're #1 and kicking ass you've got a target on your back.

Sony has the weeaboo dating sim RPG genre locked down. Eat your heart out :P

Side note: who's ArisShadow?

Side Side note:

@aigis said:

@FireEmblem_Man said:

Lame-sona 5 isn't a first party exclusive, it happens to be a Playstation exclusive from a 3rd party. It's possible that it may come out on other consoles, but of course the devs don't like making extra money from a weeaboo dating sim RPG series, right @charizard1605 and @aigis/ArisShadow?

Sony has the weeaboo dating sim RPG genre locked down. Eat your heart out :P

Side note: who's ArisShadow?

Side Side note:

I thought you're ArisShadow because he has a sick obsession of Yellow Fever, loves all JRPG's, and loves everything in Japan. :P

Also, I got that error as well

What? That there aren't any? We all know.

Sony first party is weak just look at the sales and reviews

@flyincloud1116: Actually God of War is at 81 and I'd say that's still too high.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/god-of-war-iii-remastered

It's decent game as in the sense Ninja Garden 3 RE is a decent game. Not exactly the graphical or gameplay spectacular Cows try to make out that it is.

@Dibdibdobdobo: God of War 3 metacritic is a 92. You post the remaster score.

Agenda noted.

Man this thread is gold full of people who never touched or even owned a sony console expecting us to care about there views. Yet get super butthurt when there side is rightfully called out. Nothing screams fanboy or ignorant moron more when they have to pretend there confused why the PS4 is selling 40m consoles not because that people just like PS more than what Nintendo or xbox offer.

@Dibdibdobdobo: God of War 3 was and still is a great game. Graphics were amazing when it released, gameplay is tight and fun (although 2 still has the best gameplay/combat), the scale of the game is epic, there's a reason why all the numbered GOW games score high and its because they're great games.

@flyincloud1116: Same Game. Bayonetta port score didn't drop like a ton of bricks in the same way as God of War 3 has. a great game holds up well forever while GoW couldn't ride dat HYPE TRAIN twice.

@vfighter: The graphics are great but that's it's main hook, The Gameplay is its worse point(good but not OMG OMG AWESOME) it feels clunky, slow when you compare it to DMC, Bayonetta, Wonderful 101. even Ninja Garden 3 RE feels and reacts better. The non movable camera sucks and makes the fights seem like you are 2 sardines fighting in a can of sardines. Though I do like the comical ways kratos murders people which has moving stitches. It's a decent game like I said previously but the pedestal that Cows put it on.... Well one word "Lol".

Bloodbrone is owned and co developed by Sony. anyway their first party are bad compared to what? Gran Turismo outsold any game you named as did The Last of Us and Uncharted. LOL you don't know what you are talking about not realizing Sly Cooper is first party and Infamous has sold more. Persona, really? You crap on Killzone but it is more successful. Your thread has failed since since none of those games sold more than Sony's games collectively. Crash and Spyro only sold because they were on PlayStation just like every other game. FF and MGS both declined in sales once they lost their association with Sony. The Last of Us was the best game of last generation and Uncharted 4 is the best game so far this generation. Looks like they are hitting pretty good. Also the Show is the best sports franchise created. Madden, 2K and Fifa don't compare. Actually know the facts before you make such a bold claim. Singstar sold millions of PS2s as did Buzz and they are casual games, which gave birth to the Wii.

Bungie was a third party developer when they made Halo. If you want to discredit exclusives made by third parties than Xbox literally has nothing lol!

You're the one to talk about you're lame ass weeaboo excuses.

@kingtito:

Lol at this silly xbox fanboy created thread supposed by jealous hermits.

Please tell us more about the quality of Sony exclusives and how your desperate opinions about them bad is somehow valid LMAO.

PS4 exclusive Uncharted 4: A Thiefs End 10/10!

This, a bar PlayStation exclusives have achieved with every console and never once with PC or XBOX exclusives! idiotic threads like this only point bitterness and jealousy of xbox and PC fanboys whose hyped exclusives never reach this level...The Salt is real :)

Indeed. We should true to nurture and have a culture of support so other platforms who have never gotten the coveted 10/10 exclusive GS score can 1 day get one.

Right cow, anyone that doesn't agree with you moronic cows is a lem. Sure kid, what ever helps you sleep at night.

Point to where I said anything about any of the games being bad? You're either delusional or like making stuff up like most cows. Judging by your post I'm going to say delusional.

Congrats to ND but what does that have to do with me cow? I have a PS4 and I've always planned on picking up UC4. Best of both worlds cow something you know nothing about. Sucks to be you.

But the TCs point is that Sony isn't responsible cow, they're 3rd party devs that have exclusive contracts or Sony funded parts of the games. Sony doesn't tell 3rd party devs what to make or maybe you're that delusional and think they do. Either way, you completely missed the point as most cows usually do.

Like I said it's funny to watch all the cows come to the defense of Sony over an opinion. You're easily the most butthurt and insecure fanboys on the net. I'm still laughing at you

@Dibdibdobdobo: Gameplay is its worst point, lol, you keep using the word clunky and you're the only person I've ever seen use it in regards to any GOW game. Maybe, just maybe, your opinion is shitty and biased. It might not be as fast paced as DMC or Bay, but that doesn't make it clunky. He's not a flashy fighter like Dante, he's a powerhouse who's out for blood and revenge and brutally killing his enemy anyway he can, the gameplay reflects that and is great and fun.