Moore leaves MS like they left Sega?

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#1 snorlaxmaster
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Could this be a hint that Moore knows something that we don't? I mean he left Sega right after the Dreamcast failed right? What do you think?
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ms has money. sega didnt.
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Could this be a hint that Moore knows something that we don't? I mean he left Sega right after the Dreamcast failed right? What do you think?snorlaxmaster

No. When he left SEGA, the Dreamcast was dead. Hate to be the one that gives you a current events lesson, but the 360 isn't even close and still leads this generation.

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[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]Could this be a hint that Moore knows something that we don't? I mean he left Sega right after the Dreamcast failed right? What do you think?eastside49er

No. When he left SEGA, the Dreamcast was dead. Hate to be the one that gives you a current events lesson, but the 360 isn't even close and still leads this generation.

Yeah, Moore left Microsoft because EA is giving him a LOT of $$ i heard.

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Hmm, let's see...Oh yeah, both Sega and Microsoft are two completely different companies. Micorsoft itself is a well established mulit-billion dollar international corporation. They surely have the funds to back up the 360, let alone hire someone else to do the job Moore backed out on. I'm getting tired of the comparisons of Microsoft and the Xbox360 to Sega and their consoles. 360 is leading in the sales right now. They have Xbox Live, a well established online gaming community. they are doing well, believe me. Many titles and a well established audience. Btw, what in this world is perfect?
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i can guarantee Sony will want EA to appear at their next E3 demoing sport games, and guess who's gonna be there talking good things about Playstation on stage to million of people live.........i want more....OWNAGE TO XBOTS....
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i think he wants to be with his family.... :|..... /sarcasm.

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#8 iMacBot
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He's rich, that's true. But the reason why he's dropping out is most probably because he screwed everything up with the XBOX 360. Every console is defective (or potentially defecive), so head MS CEOs probably told him to take an early retirement and they knew he wouldn't complain because of all the money he made. When the leading console is leading due it's cheap price and because it's the easiest to program games on, the one in charge of the XBOX franchise should have made sure there wasn't such an embarassing defect with the console before mass-producing it. Sega died because it was way ahead of it's time and they weren't as rich as Sony. MS and Sony will never drop out of the console industry, and Nintendo is subsidized by Panasonic and IBM (Matsuchita) so neither will they drop out of the console industry as long as it is profitable. Let's leave it at that.
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Could this be a hint that Moore knows something that we don't? I mean he left Sega right after the Dreamcast failed right? What do you think?snorlaxmaster
Peter Moore is one of those guys who comes in to do a specific job, then leaves. He's not a videogame industry vet, and he's not loyal to any one company. He's a marketing guy. His job was to turn the Xbox brand into a dominant entertainment brand. Arguably, he achieved that.
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Hmm, let's see...Oh yeah, both Sega and Microsoft are two completely different companies. Micorsoft itself is a well established mulit-billion dollar international corporation. They surely have the funds to back up the 360, let alone hire someone else to do the job Moore backed out on. I'm getting tired of the comparisons of Microsoft and the Xbox360 to Sega and their consoles. 360 is leading in the sales right now. They have Xbox Live, a well established online gaming community. they are doing well, believe me. Many titles and a well established audience. Btw, what in this world is perfect?worthyofnote

The only thing that can be compared is the games. The Dreamcast had a great game lineup for the time it was on the market. The 360 also has an amazing game lineup. That is where the comparisons stop though since the 360 continues to outsell the PS3, with out even having a price drop and will own the rest of 07 in terms of sales and games.

I'd also like to point out that the Dreamcast was dead just a year after the PS2 launched in Japan. The 360 is still selling steady. With a price drop and the amazing lineup of games the system has this holiday, it will probably surpass its Q4 holiday sales that were just over 4 million shipped WW last year. In fact estimates have the 360 shipping 5 to 6 million in Q4 of this year alone.If that is the case, then the 360 byend of June next year will have already shipped close to as many XBOXs shipped for its lifetime in half the time. Pretty good for MS.

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i can guarantee Sony will want EA to appear at their next E3 demoing sport games, and guess who's gonna be there talking good things about Playstation on stage to million of people live.........i want more....OWNAGE TO XBOTS....funolopy

Sure, if Moore goes to EA. I'm sure he'll say many great things about games that are licensed under EA. IT"S HIS JOB! Lol. If he appears to demo EA games for Sony, then power to him. It's his job. No one is getting owned except for us consumers.

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i can guarantee Sony will want EA to appear at their next E3 demoing sport games, and guess who's gonna be there talking good things about Playstation on stage to million of people live.........i want more....OWNAGE TO XBOTS....funolopy

Maybe there wouldn't be any EA sports games for the PS3 next year. Maybe it will be Peter Moore demoing 360 only sports games for MS to millions of people live.

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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]Hmm, let's see...Oh yeah, both Sega and Microsoft are two completely different companies. Micorsoft itself is a well established mulit-billion dollar international corporation. They surely have the funds to back up the 360, let alone hire someone else to do the job Moore backed out on. I'm getting tired of the comparisons of Microsoft and the Xbox360 to Sega and their consoles. 360 is leading in the sales right now. They have Xbox Live, a well established online gaming community. they are doing well, believe me. Many titles and a well established audience. Btw, what in this world is perfect?eastside49er

The only thing that can be compared is the games. The Dreamcast had a great game lineup for the time it was on the market. The 360 also has an amazing game lineup. That is where the comparisons stop though since the 360 continues to outsell the PS3, with out even having a price drop and will own the rest of 07 in terms of sales and games.

I'd also like to point out that the Dreamcast was dead just a year after the PS2 launched in Japan. The 360 is still selling steady. With a price drop and the amazing lineup of games the system has this holiday, it will probably surpass its Q4 holiday sales that were just over 4 million shipped WW last year. In fact estimates have the 360 shipping 5 to 6 million in Q4 of this year alone.If that is the case, then the 360 byend of June next year will have already shipped close to as many XBOXs shipped for its lifetime in half the time. Pretty good for MS.

The XBOX 360 does not outsell the PS3 anymore. 360 sales have stabalized but PS3 sales are going up fast since the last 2 week. As for the Wii it's droping pretty fast but still outselling the other ones. The 360 is nevertheless the most popular console at the moment, followed by the Wii and PS3.

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i think he wants to be with his family.... :|..... /sarcasm.

Game13a13y

he dose want to be with his family and i think it a good reason for leaving :|

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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]Hmm, let's see...Oh yeah, both Sega and Microsoft are two completely different companies. Micorsoft itself is a well established mulit-billion dollar international corporation. They surely have the funds to back up the 360, let alone hire someone else to do the job Moore backed out on. I'm getting tired of the comparisons of Microsoft and the Xbox360 to Sega and their consoles. 360 is leading in the sales right now. They have Xbox Live, a well established online gaming community. they are doing well, believe me. Many titles and a well established audience. Btw, what in this world is perfect?eastside49er

The only thing that can be compared is the games. The Dreamcast had a great game lineup for the time it was on the market. The 360 also has an amazing game lineup. That is where the comparisons stop though since the 360 continues to outsell the PS3, with out even having a price drop and will own the rest of 07 in terms of sales and games.

I'd also like to point out that the Dreamcast was dead just a year after the PS2 launched in Japan. The 360 is still selling steady. With a price drop and the amazing lineup of games the system has this holiday, it will probably surpass its Q4 holiday sales that were just over 4 million shipped WW last year. In fact estimates have the 360 shipping 5 to 6 million in Q4 of this year alone.If that is the case, then the 360 byend of June next year will have already shipped close to as many XBOXs shipped for its lifetime in half the time. Pretty good for MS.

All valid points I have agreed and testified myself in other threads.

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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]Hmm, let's see...Oh yeah, both Sega and Microsoft are two completely different companies. Micorsoft itself is a well established mulit-billion dollar international corporation. They surely have the funds to back up the 360, let alone hire someone else to do the job Moore backed out on. I'm getting tired of the comparisons of Microsoft and the Xbox360 to Sega and their consoles. 360 is leading in the sales right now. They have Xbox Live, a well established online gaming community. they are doing well, believe me. Many titles and a well established audience. Btw, what in this world is perfect?iMacBot

The only thing that can be compared is the games. The Dreamcast had a great game lineup for the time it was on the market. The 360 also has an amazing game lineup. That is where the comparisons stop though since the 360 continues to outsell the PS3, with out even having a price drop and will own the rest of 07 in terms of sales and games.

I'd also like to point out that the Dreamcast was dead just a year after the PS2 launched in Japan. The 360 is still selling steady. With a price drop and the amazing lineup of games the system has this holiday, it will probably surpass its Q4 holiday sales that were just over 4 million shipped WW last year. In fact estimates have the 360 shipping 5 to 6 million in Q4 of this year alone.If that is the case, then the 360 byend of June next year will have already shipped close to as many XBOXs shipped for its lifetime in half the time. Pretty good for MS.

The XBOX 360 does not outsell the PS3 anymore. 360 sales have stabalized but PS3 sales are going up fast since the last 2 week. As for the Wii it's droping pretty fast but still outselling the other ones. The 360 is nevertheless the most popular console at the moment, followed by the Wii and PS3.

I have also agreed with something similar to this in a previous thread. I'm glad Sony is picking up in sales of it's PS3.

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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]Hmm, let's see...Oh yeah, both Sega and Microsoft are two completely different companies. Micorsoft itself is a well established mulit-billion dollar international corporation. They surely have the funds to back up the 360, let alone hire someone else to do the job Moore backed out on. I'm getting tired of the comparisons of Microsoft and the Xbox360 to Sega and their consoles. 360 is leading in the sales right now. They have Xbox Live, a well established online gaming community. they are doing well, believe me. Many titles and a well established audience. Btw, what in this world is perfect?iMacBot

The only thing that can be compared is the games. The Dreamcast had a great game lineup for the time it was on the market. The 360 also has an amazing game lineup. That is where the comparisons stop though since the 360 continues to outsell the PS3, with out even having a price drop and will own the rest of 07 in terms of sales and games.

I'd also like to point out that the Dreamcast was dead just a year after the PS2 launched in Japan. The 360 is still selling steady. With a price drop and the amazing lineup of games the system has this holiday, it will probably surpass its Q4 holiday sales that were just over 4 million shipped WW last year. In fact estimates have the 360 shipping 5 to 6 million in Q4 of this year alone.If that is the case, then the 360 byend of June next year will have already shipped close to as many XBOXs shipped for its lifetime in half the time. Pretty good for MS.

The XBOX 360 does not outsell the PS3 anymore. 360 sales have stabalized but PS3 sales are going up fast since the last 2 week. As for the Wii it's droping pretty fast but still outselling the other ones. The 360 is nevertheless the most popular console at the moment, followed by the Wii and PS3.

NPD proves you wrong, even though I'm not a big fan of NPD. In fact please show me another country, besides Japan, that has the PS3 outselling the 360 and the funny thing is even in Japan, the PS3 is only outselling the 360 by a few thousand units, while in America the 360 has been outselling the PS3 by 50K units or better since the PS3 has been on the market. Do you honestly believe that price drop, Halo 3, Mass Effect, GTA IV, etc won't help MS have a better 4th quarter this year than last year? I mean it is one thing to be a cow, but another to be completely delusional to facts.

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Who gives a ****?
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Supposedly all of us posting here lol.
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Supposedly all of us posting here lol. worthyofnote
Don't get me wrong, i don't wish to see MS fail (like some people) i think they have maid a pretty good system, and i anticipate a few of their games. I just don't want to look like an ignorant PS3 fanboy cow who came here to bash the 360, because that is far from the case.
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Wishful thinking..MS isnt going away
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As long as they don't fix their hardware problems they are going to keep bleeding money like no other. There's also the risk of a possible global recall. Their sales also stagnated after the launch of the Wii and PS3.

Sorry, but I can't see the xbox brand continuing after this holiday season.

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Could this be a hint that Moore knows something that we don't? I mean he left Sega right after the Dreamcast failed right? What do you think?snorlaxmaster

I don't know why people keep hiring him. Everyone criticized Kutaragi for having to high of standards. Well Peter Moore has never had that issue. EA is already having problems with not having high enough standards. The last person on the plane they need is Peter Moore.

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As long as they don't fix their hardware problems they are going to keep bleeding money like no other. There's also the risk of a possible global recall. Their sales also stagnated after the launch of the Wii and PS3.

Sorry, but I can't see the xbox brand continuing after this holiday season.

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Would you care to bet on that? I can always use some extra money.

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With or without Moore, the 360 should be fine. Microsoft has the money to easily hire someone else to replace him. As I had said earlier. As well as the fact that they have quite a bitin theirline up of upcomming releases. As well as future releases. Face the facts, each console has their ups and downs. Nobody is perfect. With an established base of customers all consoles should sell enough to keep their respectivecompany afloat. Everyone should be happy and then a new generation of console wars will begin 5 to 10 years from now.
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Oh and btw, there is a global recall. It's called facts. We should all face them, we are the ones that are faltering and being owned.
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Oh and btw, there is a global recall. It's called facts. We should all face them, we are the ones that are faltering and being owned.worthyofnote

:lol:

An Ebgames in Austraila doesn't count as a global recall.

Any way if they were having a global recall then I would have been called. On top of that, they wouldn't have issued a 3 year warranty to deal with the situation. Plus, even if they had a recall, they would simply give you a new 360 so big whoop. They are losing the money, not me.

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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]Hmm, let's see...Oh yeah, both Sega and Microsoft are two completely different companies. Micorsoft itself is a well established mulit-billion dollar international corporation. They surely have the funds to back up the 360, let alone hire someone else to do the job Moore backed out on. I'm getting tired of the comparisons of Microsoft and the Xbox360 to Sega and their consoles. 360 is leading in the sales right now. They have Xbox Live, a well established online gaming community. they are doing well, believe me. Many titles and a well established audience. Btw, what in this world is perfect?iMacBot

The only thing that can be compared is the games. The Dreamcast had a great game lineup for the time it was on the market. The 360 also has an amazing game lineup. That is where the comparisons stop though since the 360 continues to outsell the PS3, with out even having a price drop and will own the rest of 07 in terms of sales and games.

I'd also like to point out that the Dreamcast was dead just a year after the PS2 launched in Japan. The 360 is still selling steady. With a price drop and the amazing lineup of games the system has this holiday, it will probably surpass its Q4 holiday sales that were just over 4 million shipped WW last year. In fact estimates have the 360 shipping 5 to 6 million in Q4 of this year alone.If that is the case, then the 360 byend of June next year will have already shipped close to as many XBOXs shipped for its lifetime in half the time. Pretty good for MS.

The XBOX 360 does not outsell the PS3 anymore. 360 sales have stabalized but PS3 sales are going up fast since the last 2 week. As for the Wii it's droping pretty fast but still outselling the other ones. The 360 is nevertheless the most popular console at the moment, followed by the Wii and PS3.

What u think buddy, it just had a price drop

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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]Oh and btw, there is a global recall. It's called facts. We should all face them, we are the ones that are faltering and being owned.eastside49er

:lol:

An Ebgames in Austraila doesn't count as a global recall.

Any way if they were having a global recall then I would have been called. On top of that, they wouldn't have issued a 3 year warranty to deal with the situation. Plus, even if they had a recall, they would simply give you a new 360 so big whoop. They are losing the money, not me.

Oh yes, I know lol. I am a proud 360 owner, and am glad that there is a 3 year warranty.

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ms has money. sega didnt.wavebrid

$28 Billion Cash lol

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[QUOTE="wavebrid"]ms has money. sega didnt.KillaHalo2o9

$28 Billion Cash lol

That and Mr. Gates is worth 58 billion alone. I doubt he'd let a product of his company just up and fail without a fight, and throwing some cash at it.

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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

[QUOTE="wavebrid"]ms has money. sega didnt.worthyofnote

$28 Billion Cash lol

That and Mr. Gates is worth 58 billion alone. I doubt he'd let a product of his company just up and fail without a fight, and throwing some cash at it.

They already did with the first xbox. And they are in the gaming industry to make money; you people talk like if this was a hobby to them.

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Who gives a ****?Stockman

My type of thinking :D

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peter leave M$ right before the sinks
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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

[QUOTE="wavebrid"]ms has money. sega didnt.fierro316

$28 Billion Cash lol

That and Mr. Gates is worth 58 billion alone. I doubt he'd let a product of his company just up and fail without a fight, and throwing some cash at it.

They already did with the first xbox. And they are in the gaming industry to make money; you people talk like if this was a hobby to them.

Sure it is a hobby to them. In the fact that Iam talking, the fact that business is a hobby. They're doing what they can to maximize profits and sell products. They want to keep us hooked so they can continue to sell us products. I doubt MS would allow it's flagship console to fail. It'd be bad for business.

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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

[QUOTE="wavebrid"]ms has money. sega didnt.fierro316

$28 Billion Cash lol

That and Mr. Gates is worth 58 billion alone. I doubt he'd let a product of his company just up and fail without a fight, and throwing some cash at it.

They already did with the first xbox. And they are in the gaming industry to make money; you people talk like if this was a hobby to them.

By your theory, Sony is about to give up. They just lost 500 million for the quarter for their console/gaming division and are expected to lose another billion for the rest of the year.

The 360 meanwhile is already in the black, some where the XBOX never went and MS estimated that they will be in the green sometime in 2008, although with the 1 billion warranty set back, they will probably move that estimation to 2009.

Either way, MSforQ1 this yearnetted 5 billion as a whole. I'm not sure what they netted last quarter, but I'm sure it was in the 3 to 4 billion range. That is 8 to 9 billion they have netted for a company this year and we still have half of 2007 to go.

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Man I love money! I'm an International Business major, money is a hobby.

But yeah, it is still somewhat early in the year.

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The difference between me and the businesses in the industry, I'm the consumer. they're the producer and manufacturer. I'll buy what entertains me. They'll produce what they think they can sell. I say it's a safe bet that Sony and Microsoft BOTH will be able to stay afloat in industry. Both are major corporations with the funds to back up their products. It's a matter of consumer preference and the ability to purchase such goods. If you like the games, you'll buy the console, that is if you have the money. Major reason I bought 360, my old xbox just wasn't cutting it anymore. New titles, anticipation of Gears, Halo3, and several others influenced my decision. PS3 wasn't released when I purchased my 360. Plus I didn't have the money, or see any of the titles that interested me at the time. However in due time, when I sort out personal issues, I will purchase my PS3 for some of the similar reasons. Hence for all my rambling, I am a consumer, as are the rest of you.
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#39 worthyofnote
Member since 2007 • 21896 Posts
And as for Peter Moore, he was just a face for the product. His job was to help market and promote it. He's a businessman, of course he'll endorse any product with his name behind it. It's his job.
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#40 SambaLele
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ms has money. sega didnt.wavebrid

MS has money.

The Xbox division doesn't.

They won't keep banking a failure division for eternity.

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#41 Igwababa
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[QUOTE="wavebrid"]ms has money. sega didnt.SambaLele

MS has money.

The Xbox division doesn't.

They won't keep banking a failure division for eternity.

MS business plan 101, throw money at product till said product becomes market leader, move on to next market

Face it MS is here to stay

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#42 NorthlandMan
Member since 2007 • 2302 Posts
dreamcast 2, i've said it since day one