More info on the Hybrid Kinect experience, The Best Core Experience Yet....

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40077373/

I love how all of SW said that MS would never do hybrid gaming, now its being developed and I can see some great games. Open your mind is the motto of the KINECT BOSS!!!! Discuss this revolutionary tech and hybrid gaming!!!!

Another gimmick, another failure in gaming.

how did you enjoy playing Uncaged? as for the topic, i think its bs. its just talkNintendoNite

oh lets bring up uncaged but not AAE Dance Central, or AE Kinect SPorts, Kinect Adventures, and FItness Evolved. Sorry I was right about the launch, I knew I would be..

Another gimmick, another failure in gaming.

15strong

yes cause you know what its ALL about right, also Kinect was giong to have unplayable LAG too 3 months ago? :lol:

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"]how did you enjoy playing Uncaged? as for the topic, i think its bs. its just talkProjectNatalFan

oh lets bring up uncaged but not AAE Dance Central, or AE Kinect SPorts, Kinect Adventures, and FItness Evolved. Sorry I was right about the launch, I knew I would be..

[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"]how did you enjoy playing Uncaged? as for the topic, i think its bs. its just talkNintendoNite

oh lets bring up uncaged but not AAE Dance Central, or AE Kinect SPorts, Kinect Adventures, and FItness Evolved. Sorry I was right about the launch, I knew I would be..

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

oh lets bring up uncaged but not AAE Dance Central, or AE Kinect SPorts, Kinect Adventures, and FItness Evolved. Sorry I was right about the launch, I knew I would be..

ProjectNatalFan

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

first of all systems wars opinion of kinect carries about as much weight as a bagged lunch in a senate meeting. There is an incredible potential for what the kinect technology can be used for, but its not there yet. kinect is a really cool starting point...

let me know when the kinect is as accurate and as fun the ps move and it gets passed being on the railsPsMoveFan

ok and sorry the Move never got a sticky, its just not that popular.... Its kinda like another comparison I can make but I wont.... Also Kinect has lag right? :lol:

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

oh lets bring up uncaged but not AAE Dance Central, or AE Kinect SPorts, Kinect Adventures, and FItness Evolved. Sorry I was right about the launch, I knew I would be..

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

oh lets bring up uncaged but not AAE Dance Central, or AE Kinect SPorts, Kinect Adventures, and FItness Evolved. Sorry I was right about the launch, I knew I would be..

ProjectNatalFan

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

Does this mean its going to be as accurate as Move whenever that comes out? Or even Eyetoy?

first of all systems wars opinion of kinect carries about as much weight as a bagged lunch in a senate meeting. There is an incredible potential for what the kinect technology can be used for, but its not there yet. kinect is a really cool starting point...

TheEroica

I agree

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[QUOTE="NintendoNite"] because uncaged is more of the hardcore games. The titles you mentioned were CASUAL games. Sorry but kinect can never become a hardcore device.Keiji993

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

Does this mean its going to be as accurate as Move whenever that comes out? Or even Eyetoy?

oh my friend, you said alot of things about Kinect that werent true back in the day. I was looking over my archives, also the eyetoy thing hahahaha. Sorry but did you see the insane hype for Kinect. 5 million forcast and smashed Moves launch with flying colors. I love being right... SOrry I let you know.

[QUOTE="PsMoveFan"]let me know when the kinect is as accurate and as fun the ps move and it gets passed being on the railsProjectNatalFan

ok and sorry the Move never got a sticky, its just not that popular.... Its kinda like another comparison I can make but I wont.... Also Kinect has lag right? :lol:

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

ProjectNatalFan

Does this mean its going to be as accurate as Move whenever that comes out? Or even Eyetoy?

oh my friend, you said alot of things about Kinect that werent true back in the day. I was looking over my archives, also the eyetoy thing hahahaha. Sorry but did you see the insane hype for Kinect. 5 million forcast and smashed Moves launch with flying colors. I love being right... SOrry I let you know.

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

ProjectNatalFan

Does this mean its going to be as accurate as Move whenever that comes out? Or even Eyetoy?

oh my friend, you said alot of things about Kinect that werent true back in the day. I was looking over my archives, also the eyetoy thing hahahaha. Sorry but did you see the insane hype for Kinect. 5 million forcast and smashed Moves launch with flying colors. I love being right... SOrry I let you know.

Sorry but you havn't won anything.

Kinect isn't more accurate than Move and it can't play games better than Move. The 2 most important things about the hardwares Kinect fails.

Sales doesn't = quality

You hyped the sales which it can't fail at because of the 500+ million spend on advertising. Until you can prove me wrong on it being more accurate and able to play core games come back to me.

first of all systems wars opinion of kinect carries about as much weight as a bagged lunch in a senate meeting. There is an incredible potential for what the kinect technology can be used for, but its not there yet. kinect is a really cool starting point...

TheEroica

This. What I've seen so far look like tech demos, the way Wii Sports looked in 2006. A way to show off the tech but pretty shallow. I'm not going to make any judgement on it until it's pushed harder, with real core games.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40077373/

I love how all of SW said that MS would never do hybrid gaming, now its being developed and I can see some great games. Open your mind is the motto of the KINECT BOSS!!!! Discuss this revolutionary tech and hybrid gaming!!!!

ProjectNatalFan

KINECT YOU ARE PARTIALLY THE CONTROLLER.

first of all systems wars opinion of kinect carries about as much weight as a bagged lunch in a senate meeting. There is an incredible potential for what the kinect technology can be used for, but its not there yet. kinect is a really cool starting point...

TheEroica

It`s pretty good, i liked it alot, i think if people give it a try and put the hating on the side, they`ll find it enjoyable.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

first of all systems wars opinion of kinect carries about as much weight as a bagged lunch in a senate meeting. There is an incredible potential for what the kinect technology can be used for, but its not there yet. kinect is a really cool starting point...

jimkabrhel

This. What I've seen so far look like tech demos, the way Wii Sports looked in 2006. A way to show off the tech but pretty shallow. I'm not going to make any judgement on it until it's pushed harder, with real core games.

Bla bla blah Mr. Tsunoda. I would be interested in a game like what he's describing, but all this talk means absolutely nothing to me until it materializes as a thing that's actually going to happen.

And please for the love of god don't let there ever be grenade throwing gestures. That kind of Kinect support should be avoided. But it won't be. Like how PS3 developers felt the need to shoehorn tilt into stuff for no ****ing reason.

because uncaged is more of the hardcore games. The titles you mentioned were CASUAL games. Sorry but kinect can never become a hardcore device.NintendoNite

I wouldn't say never, but I think MS realy limited themselves with using just a camera, I had the same thoughts about the EyeToy back when I first saw a commercial for it (well I had a bit more hate for the EyeToy even). But I'm really interested in seeing what gets made with the hybrid games.

I just think it's too difficult to make a "Core" game without any sort of controller, so the hybrid is probably the only way to go, and it's going to have to be an optional thing (i.e. like M.A.G. is on the move, or Killzone 3 will, etc.) where you can use Kinect with say a Halo or Gears game, or even Fable or something, but you can also turn off Kinect and play with just the controller. I think that's their best bet.

first of all systems wars opinion of kinect carries about as much weight as a bagged lunch in a senate meeting. There is an incredible potential for what the kinect technology can be used for, but its not there yet. kinect is a really cool starting point...

TheEroica

I see this potential talk all the time. Care to explain what exactly this "potential" is? So far, Kinect has shown exactly what we expected it to which was voice control (implementing that requires nothing but a mic) and flailing games.

So what is it exactly that you expect Kinect is going to do with all it's potenial and what exactly is it you expect from the "hybrid" that won't be just as possible on a controller/webcam?

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40077373/

I love how all of SW said that MS would never do hybrid gaming, now its being developed and I can see some great games. Open your mind is the motto of the KINECT BOSS!!!! Discuss this revolutionary tech and hybrid gaming!!!!

ProjectNatalFan

no one here said MS wouldn't do hybrid gaming, they were actually saying quite the opposite. You can't play a lot of games without buttons/realistic weight in your hands.

Microsoft and you were saying that controller-less free gaming was the future, however, it looks like it doesn't work as well as they expected.

remember this thread that you made?
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27487166&msg_id=326021962#326021962
"What will be the first game Kinect uses scanned objects from you to incorporate"

as for games? I'm not sure.

as for objects, I think the first one will be a controller.

Some-Mist

Dated October 21st, 2010.

looks like you're wrong again.

now it's time to see PNF disappear from this thread as he usually does when he's wrong

moooooooooooooooooooove over sony

I will say, when my wife brought a kinect home i was skeptical. I even was mad, as we had just got the wii last year. I plugged it in, and the initial startup/install began. I walked across the living room to pick up my drink, and it followed me exactly. It was almost pitch black in the livingroom, yet it sensed me perfectly. I was surprised. I finished installing it, calibrating it. Plopped in the Kinect Adventures. Spent 2 hours playing pointless shallow mini games. And you know what, it was INCREDIBLY fun. Everyone at my house(no one under 25yrs old) was going nuts, having fun and laughing their @55es off. I have yet to see ANY CONSOLE/GAME ever do this. Sure we've had fun getting drunk and playing rockband, but this was different... and no one was drunk XD Honestly, I understand how "hardcores" are threatened by this tech, and also by "casuals" but you have to remember, there will always be core games/consoles. And I don't ever hear "casuals" saying "THEY NEED TO STOP MAKING HARDCORE GAMES, I DONT PLAY THEM! NO ONE SHOULD"... yet for some reason, that is all hardcore players seem to do. Kinect works, very well in fact. And more importantly is INSANELY fun. If you don't like it, that is fine. But your opinion is not going to stop my friends and i from having hours and hours of fun. So maybe you should just get over it. Or *GASP* go and try it out.dRuGGeRnaUt

well, I experienced the same with the Wii. Family and friends came over and enjoy it in 2006-2007. Not so in 2010. I assume the same would be for Kinect except 4 players.

These companies always come out with the same crap: But Microsoft believes that the real potential for the voice recognition, motion-based technology is how they plan to use it with cell phones, computers and perhaps in the military and health industries. "Think about a world where machines understand what people want from them," said Kinect Creative Director Kudo Tsunoda. "You can see that extrapolate out to a host of other devices." Really? Seriously? Why not just be honest and say it's a plastic peripheral and we hope to sell enough to make some decent money? Just like when xbox live first came out and they said 'picture a world where you're selling t-shirts you made on xbox live which people can buy and use in tony hawk's pro skater, in a tournament they set up themselves sponsored by pepsi!' Yeah, cuz that really happened. "Picture a world where your TV has a cell processor and your PS3 and TV can both handle tasks together and your machine becomes twice as powerful!" Yeah, cuz that happened too.Ninja-Hippo

Ha ha, I remember them saying that.

But yes its not uncommon for any company to say stuff like this. Just par for the course really.

well, I experienced the same with the Wii. Family and friends came over and enjoy it in 2006-2007. Not so in 2010. I assume the same would be for Kinect.Fuhgeddabouditt

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[QUOTE="NintendoNite"] because uncaged is more of the hardcore games. The titles you mentioned were CASUAL games. Sorry but kinect can never become a hardcore device.Keiji993

ok well maybe so but I think Hybrid gaming like MORTAL KOMBAT KINECT will be insanely fun.

Does this mean its going to be as accurate as Move whenever that comes out? Or even Eyetoy?

well isnt the Move boxing game just as bad? isnt it the worst rated PS move title yet? and Eyetoy....you really think the Eyetoy is...accurate? Eyetoy is a basic webcam it sees you as flat image

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"]how did you enjoy playing Uncaged? as for the topic, i think its bs. its just talkProjectNatalFan

oh lets bring up uncaged but not AAE Dance Central, or AE Kinect SPorts, Kinect Adventures, and FItness Evolved. Sorry I was right about the launch, I knew I would be..

I think the list of games that somewhat work pretty much point out the third biggest problem with this add-on. It doesn't really do too well with games where you need your character to run around in an open world.

Note: Before you ask, the biggest and second biggest problems are lack of compatibility with many setups and lack of quality titles. I'm sorry, but when your best argument for quality titles is a dancing game, I think it says something.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]These companies always come out with the same crap: But Microsoft believes that the real potential for the voice recognition, motion-based technology is how they plan to use it with cell phones, computers and perhaps in the military and health industries. "Think about a world where machines understand what people want from them," said Kinect Creative Director Kudo Tsunoda. "You can see that extrapolate out to a host of other devices." Really? Seriously? Why not just be honest and say it's a plastic peripheral and we hope to sell enough to make some decent money? Just like when xbox live first came out and they said 'picture a world where you're selling t-shirts you made on xbox live which people can buy and use in tony hawk's pro skater, in a tournament they set up themselves sponsored by pepsi!' Yeah, cuz that really happened. "Picture a world where your TV has a cell processor and your PS3 and TV can both handle tasks together and your machine becomes twice as powerful!" Yeah, cuz that happened too.carlisledavid79

Ha ha, I remember them saying that.

But yes its not uncommon for any company to say stuff like this. Just par for the course really.