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#1 jrpgliker
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From GameSpot:

Quote: One of the not-so-cosmetic changes in the fall update will be the ability to let you play your games directly from the hard disk. The new feature will let users install all of the game content directly onto the hard drive to improve game load times. Microsoft reports that it has seen a 30 percent improvement in load times in internal testing. As an interesting data point, Microsoft went out of its way to tell a group of reporters that the full Devil May Cry 4 hard disk installation took roughly 10 minutes on the Xbox 360. The installation took twice as long when we conducted our own installation tests on the PlayStation 3. Another side benefit of having games installed on the hard disk is reduced noise, since the optical disc no longer needs to spin up. However, you will still need to have the game disc in your optical drive while you're playing it, presumably as a piracy check.
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#2 diped
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not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.
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not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.diped

you don't get that. 360 install unlike ps3 install, it install the whole dvd, which takes 10minutes. and support all old 360 games. that means when playing , the dvd driver don't work at all after install.

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I really don't understand why people don't like installs, you have 24hrs in a day you can install and play later.
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dont really care, the only game where this might be worth the time is LO, and even on that its still an iffy maybe
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Too bad I have what... maybe 5GB on my hard drive.
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Anyone who complains about optional installs is an insane idiot. If you like the option and have the disk space use it. if you don't like it just ignore it and nothing changes.
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dont really care, the only game where this might be worth the time is LO, and even on that its still an iffy maybeDante2710

Bingo.

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[QUOTE="diped"]not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.jrpgliker

you don't get that. 360 install unlike ps3 install, it install the whole dvd, which takes 10minutes. and support all old 360 games. that means when playing , the dvd driver don't work at all after install.

So that means you can put what 2-3 games on a 20gb 360? Also if you can install full games why would anyone buy the games for 360 anymore if all they have to do is use Gamefly or Blockbuster?

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[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

[QUOTE="diped"]not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.-Renegade

you don't get that. 360 install unlike ps3 install, it install the whole dvd, which takes 10minutes. and support all old 360 games. that means when playing , the dvd driver don't work at all after install.

So that means you can put what 2-3 games on a 20gb 360? Also if you can install full games why would anyone buy the games for 360 anymore if all they have to do is use Gamefly or Blockbuster?

wow I know fanboys are slow, but geez. You need the disk to still play the game. The disk just will not spin.
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[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

[QUOTE="diped"]not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.-Renegade

you don't get that. 360 install unlike ps3 install, it install the whole dvd, which takes 10minutes. and support all old 360 games. that means when playing , the dvd driver don't work at all after install.

So that means you can put what 2-3 games on a 20gb 360? Also if you can install full games why would anyone buy the games for 360 anymore if all they have to do is use Gamefly or Blockbuster?


You didn't read correctly. You still need the disc in the drive in order for it to work.
I'll probably only be able to fit one game. If it reduces loading lag on Lost Odyssey, then I'm all good.
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

[QUOTE="diped"]not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.too_much_eslim

you don't get that. 360 install unlike ps3 install, it install the whole dvd, which takes 10minutes. and support all old 360 games. that means when playing , the dvd driver don't work at all after install.

So that means you can put what 2-3 games on a 20gb 360? Also if you can install full games why would anyone buy the games for 360 anymore if all they have to do is use Gamefly or Blockbuster?

wow I know fanboys are slow, but geez. You need the disk to still play the game. The disk just will not spin.

What? If the disc is not spinning why would you need it in the tray?

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

[QUOTE="diped"]not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.-Renegade

you don't get that. 360 install unlike ps3 install, it install the whole dvd, which takes 10minutes. and support all old 360 games. that means when playing , the dvd driver don't work at all after install.

So that means you can put what 2-3 games on a 20gb 360? Also if you can install full games why would anyone buy the games for 360 anymore if all they have to do is use Gamefly or Blockbuster?

wow I know fanboys are slow, but geez. You need the disk to still play the game. The disk just will not spin.

What? If the disc is not spinning why would you need it in the tray?

To show proof of purchase obviously. MS is not stupid. they are not going to let you just burn a copy of the game without actually owning the disk. The 360 still reads the disk, but it doesn't spin because all the info is on the hard drive.
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To show proof of purchase obviously. MS is not stupid. they are not going to let you just burn a copy of the game without actually owning the disk. The 360 still reads the disk, but it doesn't spin because all the info is on the hard drive.too_much_eslim

Why do I have a bad feeling already about people making key discs that fake a games image on a DVD, obviously depending on how this "Anti piracy" software works, if it's only checking for a few authentication files pirates will have a field day with this.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]To show proof of purchase obviously. MS is not stupid. they are not going to let you just burn a copy of the game without actually owning the disk. The 360 still reads the disk, but it doesn't spin because all the info is on the hard drive.Jynxzor

Why do I have a bad feeling already about people making key discs that fake a games image on a DVD, obviously depending on how this "Anti piracy" software works, if it's only checking for a few authentication files pirates will have a field day with this.

most likely.
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]To show proof of purchase obviously. MS is not stupid. they are not going to let you just burn a copy of the game without actually owning the disk. The 360 still reads the disk, but it doesn't spin because all the info is on the hard drive.too_much_eslim

Why do I have a bad feeling already about people making key discs that fake a games image on a DVD, obviously depending on how this "Anti piracy" software works, if it's only checking for a few authentication files pirates will have a field day with this.

most likely.

Xbox360 the next PSP? lol perhaps...

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[QUOTE="jrpgliker"]

[QUOTE="diped"]not worth my time and effort for the 10 minute install time if the load times are only decreased 30% they are short enough already. Definately not worth 10 minutes, nor the amount of hard drive space that it would require, definately because I dont have much. I would have to delete every game that was installed to my harddrive everytime I wanted to play a different one. Its just not very useful.-Renegade

you don't get that. 360 install unlike ps3 install, it install the whole dvd, which takes 10minutes. and support all old 360 games. that means when playing , the dvd driver don't work at all after install.

So that means you can put what 2-3 games on a 20gb 360? Also if you can install full games why would anyone buy the games for 360 anymore if all they have to do is use Gamefly or Blockbuster?

you still need to have the disk in the system as a protection against piracy. :|

60gb and 120gb is a lot of space. Plenty of room for a few games that will be played a lot, like Mass Effect and Halo 3. It's totally optional for those who have the space, and the games are still very playable and enjoyable for those who don't install them.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]To show proof of purchase obviously. MS is not stupid. they are not going to let you just burn a copy of the game without actually owning the disk. The 360 still reads the disk, but it doesn't spin because all the info is on the hard drive.Jynxzor

Why do I have a bad feeling already about people making key discs that fake a games image on a DVD, obviously depending on how this "Anti piracy" software works, if it's only checking for a few authentication files pirates will have a field day with this.

Yea I was thinking about this as well I wonder how this is gonna end up...

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#19 FreshDimSum
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horrible idea and honstly, why bother since u still need the disk in the tray? waste of memory if u as me.
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#20 too_much_eslim
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horrible idea and honstly, why bother since u still need the disk in the tray? waste of memory if u as me.FreshDimSum
no more DRE, improves loading, no more noise from disk drive, and no more pop in textures.
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#21 FreshDimSum
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[QUOTE="FreshDimSum"]horrible idea and honstly, why bother since u still need the disk in the tray? waste of memory if u as me.too_much_eslim
no more DRE, improves loading, no more noise from disk drive, and no more pop in textures.

all a plus but with roughly 5-8 gig goin onto ur HDD along with all your saves and DLC, i still dont think its gonna work, especially how lazy ppl re with micromanagement. (for even i am too lazy to delete old movie and saves i never watch/load again.) and yea, pirates WILL have loads of fun with this. overall, i still think its a bad idea.

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#22 channtheman1
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This install feature would be much more useful on PS3 as if you want you can upgrade the hard drive to a huge amount for pretty cheap, especially when you compare it with the price of the 360's hard drives. I won't be using this at all for my Xbox because I only have 4 GB of free space and don't really feel like throwing my money in the trash for a Xbox only hard drive.
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I really don't understand why people don't like installs, you have 24hrs in a day you can install and play later.bobaban

Because we would rather be able to play our games the minute we pop them in. Especially when we take the game to a friend's house (or they bring one to ours).

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To think console fanboys made fun of PC installations last generation, and the generation before that.

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#25 leonhead
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Great feature, but I've only got 20gb of space :\ I'll probably load the one game i play the most on the Hard drive...
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#26 Veterngamer
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This is AWESOME...... oh wait MS only put 20gig HDD's in the Pro's which makes up a large majority of SKU's that have been sold..... /cry
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#27 blacktorn
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Sounds great,would be even more great if you could just install and play them without the dvd,i understand why they probs don't want to do that because of piracy but it would be nice to just play 360 games like you would for arcade games,quick and easy.

Guess the 120gb HDD actually comes into use when the fall update arrives...

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#28 redstormrisen
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dont really care, the only game where this might be worth the time is LO, and even on that its still an iffy maybeDante2710

Half life 2.

Still, its not for everybody, i won't be installing because i don't have the space...

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One game I can think of that would definently benefit from this would be Mass Effect.
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Anyone who complains about optional installs is an insane idiot. If you like the option and have the disk space use it. if you don't like it just ignore it and nothing changes.TellDaddy

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