More Proof Sony is Run by Morons -- Stated E3 Pricedrop is Bogus

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#1 djord02
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Link Story

Link Contradictory Statement By Sony Europe CEO David Reeves

So let's get this straight:


1) Sony announces a $100 price drop on the 60-gig American PS3 at E3.

2) Two days later, Sony says, "Oh, we're not REALLY giving you a "permanent" price drop, we're just phasing out the 60-gig American PS3."

3) So, Sony's prices are really staying the same in the long run, they are just adding in more hard drive space (80-gig) and swapping out costly parts from the American 60-gig PS3 (such as the hardware that allows PS2 games to be played without emulators?).

4) Microsoft wins out by not messing with the Xbox 360's price, since Sony is inevitably shooting themselves in the foot again. We're sure getting a different story now than we were getting at E3.

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#2 Xerlaoth
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SCEA has said David Reeves' comments were innacurate.

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Like the Kotaku guy said, who knows what is really going on. Sony is run by morons, you're right, because they can't even get us a straight answer on something so critical as pricing.

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#3 Bread_or_Decide
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But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

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#4 flashattackfina
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TC sony did not announce a price drop at E3
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SCEA has said David Reeves' comments were innacurate.Xerlaoth
And Kaz Hirai has already stated that there is only going to be one PS3 SKU - $600. What's your point?
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#6 aaron6581230
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Why is SCEE commenting on SCEA business? Even though they're both Sony, they're not really connected
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#7 Raoul_Duke_HST
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But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Bread_or_Decide

a fire sale is not a price drop.

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But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Bread_or_Decide

Well according to the original report, this is more of a clearance sale, and you won't be able to get the PS3 for 500 after they run out of 60GB's. Which I'm displeased by, because I want to buy one sometime next year for 500, when there are games I want on store shelves.

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[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]SCEA has said David Reeves' comments were innacurate.Paul_Phoenicks
And Kaz Hirai has already stated that there is only going to be one PS3 SKU - $600. What's your point?

link? hadn't seen that.

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#10 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Xerlaoth

Well according to the original report, this is more of a clearance sale, and you won't be able to get the PS3 for 500 after they run out of 60GB's. Which I'm displeased by, because I want to buy one sometime next year for 500, when there are games I want on store shelves.

Clearance sale. Price drop. Either way you get a 60gb for 500. Whats the problem?

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#11 BuryMe
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It was never confirmed that they are phasing out the 60 gig ps3

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#12 Xerlaoth
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[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Bread_or_Decide

Well according to the original report, this is more of a clearance sale, and you won't be able to get the PS3 for 500 after they run out of 60GB's. Which I'm displeased by, because I want to buy one sometime next year for 500, when there are games I want on store shelves.

Clearance sale. Price drop. Either way you get a 60gb for 500. Whats the problem?

Didja not read? I said I want a PS3 ***next year***, not now.

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#13 BuryMe
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Clearance sale. Price drop. Either way you get a 60gb for 500. Whats the problem?Bread_or_Decide
if i want to get it a year from now, i probably won't be able to. (if it is a clearence sale)
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#14 Tactis
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It was never confirmed that they are phasing out the 60 gig ps3

BuryMe

so ken is lying?

http://atvs.vg.no/?id=10235 at 1:50 wait a sec, it takes a while to load up but it very clear they are discontinuing it.

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#15 xTheChosenOnex
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This has turned me away from Sony. I didnt plan on buying a PS3 until October-November and i'm not paying $600, although PS3 has great games coming up, so does 360.

Are we witnessing the demise of Sony?

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#16 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

It was never confirmed that they are phasing out the 60 gig ps3

Tactis

so ken is lying?

http://atvs.vg.no/?id=10235 at 1:50 wait a sec, it takes a while to load up but it very clear they are discontinuing it.

sorry, i just say the story on GS. the 60 gig is only available for months, now.

Stupid Sony. That price drop actually had me considering a ps3. But now they are phasing it out?

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#17 Tjeremiah1988
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wait wait wait, WHAT! :shock: Do people that work for SONY have brains? I mean finally people were willing to go out and get a ps3 or at least think about getting it. Now this happens. SONY doesnt want to win I see.
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But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Bread_or_Decide
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#19 djord02
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

nintendo-4life

Basically, the moral of the story is, Sony misled gamers by saying they are having a $100 price drop when it's only a temporary price drop.

It's like saying, buy this PS3 for $500 bucks . . . while supplies last. AfterSony gets rid of the 60-gig models, the price remains $600 for the 80-gig PS3 that is taking it's place

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#20 themyth01
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SCEA has said David Reeves' comments were innacurate.

Link

Like the Kotaku guy said, who knows what is really going on. Sony is run by morons, you're right, because they can't even get us a straight answer on something so critical as pricing.

Xerlaoth

UPDATE] Following a flurry of confusion, the matter was apparently settled by none other than Sony Computer Entertainment's president and CEO. Speaking to Norwegian game-news outlet VGTV, Kaz Hirai said in no uncertain terms that the 60GB version is being phased out.

"From a hardware perspective, the $499 price adjustment we did for the 60GB version for the American market, we're no longer in production for that product," he said in an on-camera interview. "Once that product is gone from the retailer shelves, then we're back to a $599 SKU only, so it's not like we have a two-price strategy in the US market. We found out very early on how consumers react to having just one SKU as opposed to two."

It's confirmed.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25772777

At least they will sell a LOT of ps3s in July though.

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#21 Gun-Unit
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

djord02

Basically, the moral of the story is, Sony misled gamers by saying they are having a $100 price drop when it's only a temporary price drop.

It's like saying, buy this PS3 for $500 bucks . . . while supplies last. AfterSony gets rid of the 60-gig models, the price remains $600 for the 80-gig PS3 that is taking it's place

No matter how you look at it its still a $100 price drop,your evening getting the 80gig for less then $600,because it comes with a $60 games which leads me to believe they might release the 80gig w/o the game for $499 also later in the year.Its also a smart move in away because customers don't take well to multi sku's on the market.

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#22 valmonte
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[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Bread_or_Decide

Well according to the original report, this is more of a clearance sale, and you won't be able to get the PS3 for 500 after they run out of 60GB's. Which I'm displeased by, because I want to buy one sometime next year for 500, when there are games I want on store shelves.

Clearance sale. Price drop. Either way you get a 60gb for 500. Whats the problem?

IF I wanted one RIGHT NOW. I want one closer to Christmas! The whole thing seems disingenuous on Sony's part. More and more often they seem to be outright manipulative of the consumer. (Anyone remember All I want for Xmas is me PSP?)

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#23 Xerlaoth
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I can't believe Nintendo ever got criticized for "holding back units" or whatever, when Sony can use straight bait and switch on us like that. Such BS. Over the last two years, they have disgusted me.
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#24 XYZVector
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Sony yet again shoot themselves in the foot like our administration. What is this world ran buy idiots......
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#25 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Paul_Phoenicks"][QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]SCEA has said David Reeves' comments were innacurate.Xerlaoth

And Kaz Hirai has already stated that there is only going to be one PS3 SKU - $600. What's your point?

link? hadn't seen that.

here is a link. Watch at around 1 minute and 40 seconds http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235
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It's a price drop for sony. They're losing more $ per unit. :P
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#27 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="djord02"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Gun-Unit

Basically, the moral of the story is, Sony misled gamers by saying they are having a $100 price drop when it's only a temporary price drop.

It's like saying, buy this PS3 for $500 bucks . . . while supplies last. AfterSony gets rid of the 60-gig models, the price remains $600 for the 80-gig PS3 that is taking it's place

No matter how you look at it its still a $100 price drop,your evening getting the 80gig for less then $600,because it comes with a $60 games which leads me to believe they might release the 80gig w/o the game for $499 also later in the year.Its also a smart move in away because customers don't take well to multi sku's on the market.

What if a person does not like that game? Then they have to pay extra for a game they do not want. Also It is not that people do not like more then one sku it is people do not want to pay $600 for a game console.
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Sony always surprises me with their odd decisions. o_O
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#29 PoppaLemming
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Ok let's get this straight... PS3's are $500 clams right now right?

In about a month the PS3 will be raised back to $599

So if anything this is a price INCREASE :lol::lol::lol: What the hell is Sony thinking?

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No matter how you look at it its still a $100 price drop,your evening getting the 80gig for less then $600,because it comes with a $60 games which leads me to believe they might release the 80gig w/o the game for $499 also later in the year.Its also a smart move in away because customers don't take well to multi sku's on the market.Gun-Unit
great :|

so after the 60 gig model is gone, i'm forced to pay $100 moer for a game i don't want.

good job, sony :|

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It's a price drop for sony. They're losing more $ per unit. :Pgoblaa

yay, teh downfallz of Sony,

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#32 themyth01
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Ok let's get this straight... PS3's are $500 clams right now right?

In about a month the PS3 will be raised back to $599

So if anything this is a price INCREASE :lol::lol::lol: What the hell is Sony thinking?

PoppaLemming

Getting a lot of sales for the month, I think the PS3 will sell a lot this month.

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#33 Gun-Unit
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[QUOTE="Gun-Unit"][QUOTE="djord02"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But its still a price drop. You're getting the 600 PS3 for 500.

Or for 600 you can get a game and 20gigs.

Either way the 60gb is less then 600.

Eltroz

Basically, the moral of the story is, Sony misled gamers by saying they are having a $100 price drop when it's only a temporary price drop.

It's like saying, buy this PS3 for $500 bucks . . . while supplies last. AfterSony gets rid of the 60-gig models, the price remains $600 for the 80-gig PS3 that is taking it's place

No matter how you look at it its still a $100 price drop,your evening getting the 80gig for less then $600,because it comes with a $60 games which leads me to believe they might release the 80gig w/o the game for $499 also later in the year.Its also a smart move in away because customers don't take well to multi sku's on the market.

What if a person does not like that game? Then they have to pay extra for a game they do not want. Also It is not that people do not like more then one sku it is people do not want to pay $600 for a game console.

Would it matter your still getting it for a cheaper price,like i said its looking like they might release a $499 w/o the game once the 60gig is all sold.Your already getting a deal out of PS3 at a $600 price tag Sony is losing money on PS3 and its your choice whether you want it or not,Sony is being good as it is selling it at a lost.

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#34 Tjeremiah1988
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so Motorstorm is worth 100 :lol:
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#35 djord02
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Ok let's get this straight... PS3's are $500 clams right now right?

In about a month the PS3 will be raised back to $599

So if anything this is a price INCREASE :lol::lol::lol: What the hell is Sony thinking?

PoppaLemming

Yeah, it's interesting. First Sonydiscontinued the $500 20-gig PS3. Now they are discontinuing the formerly $600 PS3. And gamers are only left with the new $600 80-gig model that doesn't have the PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility hardware built in anymore. Gamers are left paying a premium for 20 extra gigs and less hardware features!

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#36 Gun-Unit
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]It's a price drop for sony. They're losing more $ per unit. :PTjeremiah1988

yay, teh downfallz of Sony,

Yay sony downfall would mean Xbox720 $1000....Be realistic if Sony does fall that $600 price tag your going to be wishing for becuase if MS ever got a monopoloy on the gaming industry you going to see crappy consoles that are over priced.

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Sony has a 10 year plan for the ps3. people keep over looking that. They say "PLAN" not "ps3 life span". These means they have planned out all the tricks to get people to buy consoles from them and make them more money.

Weren't you guys ever suspicious when the ps3 started out with only 20gb and 60gb? Well i thought it was a bit small and from the start i knew sony would increase it some how. This is so smart of them. This isn't going to hurt sony, its hurting the consumers. I'm glad i have no next gen system. Its to hard for me to pick one with all this crap going on, i dont know when the right time is.

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#38 BuryMe
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Would it matter your still getting it for a cheaper price,like i said its looking like they might release a $499 w/o the game once the 60gig is all sold.Your already getting a deal out of PS3 at a $600 price tag Sony is losing money on PS3 and its your choice whether you want it or not,Sony is being good as it is selling it at a lost.Gun-Unit
where are you getting that impression from? The 60 gig never dropped in price after the 20 gig was gone
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#39 Gun-Unit
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[QUOTE="Gun-Unit"]Would it matter your still getting it for a cheaper price,like i said its looking like they might release a $499 w/o the game once the 60gig is all sold.Your already getting a deal out of PS3 at a $600 price tag Sony is losing money on PS3 and its your choice whether you want it or not,Sony is being good as it is selling it at a lost.BuryMe
where are you getting that impression from? The 60 gig never dropped in price after the 20 gig was gone

Because now days 80gig harddrives are cheaper to produce then 60gig,if you take out the game there only selling the 80gig for 30-40 dollars more theres a good chance they might do it,its my prediction but doesn't mean it will happen.

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#40 dracolich666
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Ok let's get this straight... PS3's are $500 clams right now right?

In about a month the PS3 will be raised back to $599

So if anything this is a price INCREASE :lol::lol::lol: What the hell is Sony thinking?

PoppaLemming

I dunno its pretty stupid, if MS sells the elite for $400 then sonywill still lose ground.

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#41 killab2oo5
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Well the $600 dollar one is now $500 dollars,that somewhat of a pricedrop.I doubt if many casuals really know the difference though,and I dont think that the "pricedrop" will really help.It was $500 and $600 dollars before,and it didnt work well then,I doubt if it will not still at basically the same prince.I just know I must get one for Christmas :P.

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#42 swanlee
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How is it a price drop? PS3 launch= $499 least expensive SKU PS3 now= $499 least expensive SKU PS3 in a few months- $599 Least expensive SKU This is not a price drop this is a company playing with words and screwing around with it's customers.